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  #1  
Old June 12th 09, 01:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dale
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Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You

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  #2  
Old June 12th 09, 02:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Dale

You need to refer to your motherboard manual.

What is the Gateway model?


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Dale wrote:
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in
each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB
333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You

  #3  
Old June 12th 09, 02:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Gerry
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Dale

You need to refer to your motherboard manual.

What is the Gateway model?


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Dale wrote:
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in
each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB
333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You

  #4  
Old June 12th 09, 02:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Paul
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Dale wrote:
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You


You'd have got more details, if you mentioned the computer make and model number.

Generally speaking, it no longer matters which slot you use.

If you have a system with three slots on a single channel bus,
then there may be some slight differences in stability, depending
on how you do things.

There are a few modern motherboards, which are pure crap. And
for those, some people have discovered one slot works and the
second slot is useless. So there are cases, where you don't get
a say in the matter, due to a bad design.

Given the products you indicate above, I would unplug the 256MB
module, and just use the 1GB one. My reason for doing that,
might be so that the memory could run at DDR333 (PS2700) speed,
rather than DDR266 (PC2100). But whether that would happen, may
also depend on whether the processor FSB plays a part in the
memory speed choices or not. If the two clock rates are locked
together, in fact it might not help, and then you'd just leave
both of them plugged in.

So if you gave more details about the motherboard, I could suggest
a plan of action. Or at least what my preference would be.

(If you're going to use the info in Belarc to ID it, *don't* post
everything in Belarc. Sometimes, there are software license keys
in the report, and you don't want to post that stuff.)

If you want another program to provide info about the motherboard,
try CPUZ instead.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

There is a screenshot here, showing what info the program can give you.
In this example, the motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, and I
can find a picture of that, and I know exactly how that one works.
But sometimes, the motherboard name is not a popular one, so
I'm still in the dark.

http://pat.marcourt.free.fr/cpu-z.JPG

Paul
  #5  
Old June 12th 09, 02:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Paul
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Dale wrote:
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You


You'd have got more details, if you mentioned the computer make and model number.

Generally speaking, it no longer matters which slot you use.

If you have a system with three slots on a single channel bus,
then there may be some slight differences in stability, depending
on how you do things.

There are a few modern motherboards, which are pure crap. And
for those, some people have discovered one slot works and the
second slot is useless. So there are cases, where you don't get
a say in the matter, due to a bad design.

Given the products you indicate above, I would unplug the 256MB
module, and just use the 1GB one. My reason for doing that,
might be so that the memory could run at DDR333 (PS2700) speed,
rather than DDR266 (PC2100). But whether that would happen, may
also depend on whether the processor FSB plays a part in the
memory speed choices or not. If the two clock rates are locked
together, in fact it might not help, and then you'd just leave
both of them plugged in.

So if you gave more details about the motherboard, I could suggest
a plan of action. Or at least what my preference would be.

(If you're going to use the info in Belarc to ID it, *don't* post
everything in Belarc. Sometimes, there are software license keys
in the report, and you don't want to post that stuff.)

If you want another program to provide info about the motherboard,
try CPUZ instead.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

There is a screenshot here, showing what info the program can give you.
In this example, the motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, and I
can find a picture of that, and I know exactly how that one works.
But sometimes, the motherboard name is not a popular one, so
I'm still in the dark.

http://pat.marcourt.free.fr/cpu-z.JPG

Paul
  #6  
Old June 12th 09, 02:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
JS
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Yes it can.

Some motherboards have slots that take Double Sided (DS) sticks.
Other may be limited to 1 DS memory stick and remaining slots require
Single Sided (SS) stick.

Then there is Dual Channel which if you have four slots
then you need matched pairs in odd and even numbered slots.

You really need to look at the User's Guide for your Model PC
and see what it will accept.

You can also try:
Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Dale" wrote in message
...
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ
PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You

--
dale



  #7  
Old June 12th 09, 02:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
JS
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Yes it can.

Some motherboards have slots that take Double Sided (DS) sticks.
Other may be limited to 1 DS memory stick and remaining slots require
Single Sided (SS) stick.

Then there is Dual Channel which if you have four slots
then you need matched pairs in odd and even numbered slots.

You really need to look at the User's Guide for your Model PC
and see what it will accept.

You can also try:
Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Dale" wrote in message
...
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ
PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You

--
dale



  #8  
Old June 12th 09, 04:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dale
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BIOS Type: AMI
BIOS Date: August 21st 2003
BIOS OEM: BIOS Date: 08/21/03 09:49:46 Ver: 08.00.09 -
RG84510A.15A.0057.P19.0308210949
Chipset: Intel 2560 rev 1
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Manufacturer: Gateway 500S PLUS E-4000
Number of Memory Slots on Board: 2

If you need more info, I've probably got it...somewhere. LOL

Thanks

--
dale


"Paul" wrote:

Dale wrote:
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You


You'd have got more details, if you mentioned the computer make and model number.

Generally speaking, it no longer matters which slot you use.

If you have a system with three slots on a single channel bus,
then there may be some slight differences in stability, depending
on how you do things.

There are a few modern motherboards, which are pure crap. And
for those, some people have discovered one slot works and the
second slot is useless. So there are cases, where you don't get
a say in the matter, due to a bad design.

Given the products you indicate above, I would unplug the 256MB
module, and just use the 1GB one. My reason for doing that,
might be so that the memory could run at DDR333 (PS2700) speed,
rather than DDR266 (PC2100). But whether that would happen, may
also depend on whether the processor FSB plays a part in the
memory speed choices or not. If the two clock rates are locked
together, in fact it might not help, and then you'd just leave
both of them plugged in.

So if you gave more details about the motherboard, I could suggest
a plan of action. Or at least what my preference would be.

(If you're going to use the info in Belarc to ID it, *don't* post
everything in Belarc. Sometimes, there are software license keys
in the report, and you don't want to post that stuff.)

If you want another program to provide info about the motherboard,
try CPUZ instead.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

There is a screenshot here, showing what info the program can give you.
In this example, the motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, and I
can find a picture of that, and I know exactly how that one works.
But sometimes, the motherboard name is not a popular one, so
I'm still in the dark.

http://pat.marcourt.free.fr/cpu-z.JPG

Paul

  #9  
Old June 12th 09, 04:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Dale
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Posts: 112
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BIOS Type: AMI
BIOS Date: August 21st 2003
BIOS OEM: BIOS Date: 08/21/03 09:49:46 Ver: 08.00.09 -
RG84510A.15A.0057.P19.0308210949
Chipset: Intel 2560 rev 1
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Manufacturer: Gateway 500S PLUS E-4000
Number of Memory Slots on Board: 2

If you need more info, I've probably got it...somewhere. LOL

Thanks

--
dale


"Paul" wrote:

Dale wrote:
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You


You'd have got more details, if you mentioned the computer make and model number.

Generally speaking, it no longer matters which slot you use.

If you have a system with three slots on a single channel bus,
then there may be some slight differences in stability, depending
on how you do things.

There are a few modern motherboards, which are pure crap. And
for those, some people have discovered one slot works and the
second slot is useless. So there are cases, where you don't get
a say in the matter, due to a bad design.

Given the products you indicate above, I would unplug the 256MB
module, and just use the 1GB one. My reason for doing that,
might be so that the memory could run at DDR333 (PS2700) speed,
rather than DDR266 (PC2100). But whether that would happen, may
also depend on whether the processor FSB plays a part in the
memory speed choices or not. If the two clock rates are locked
together, in fact it might not help, and then you'd just leave
both of them plugged in.

So if you gave more details about the motherboard, I could suggest
a plan of action. Or at least what my preference would be.

(If you're going to use the info in Belarc to ID it, *don't* post
everything in Belarc. Sometimes, there are software license keys
in the report, and you don't want to post that stuff.)

If you want another program to provide info about the motherboard,
try CPUZ instead.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

There is a screenshot here, showing what info the program can give you.
In this example, the motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, and I
can find a picture of that, and I know exactly how that one works.
But sometimes, the motherboard name is not a popular one, so
I'm still in the dark.

http://pat.marcourt.free.fr/cpu-z.JPG

Paul

  #10  
Old June 12th 09, 03:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Paul
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Dale wrote:
BIOS Type: AMI
BIOS Date: August 21st 2003
BIOS OEM: BIOS Date: 08/21/03 09:49:46 Ver: 08.00.09 -
RG84510A.15A.0057.P19.0308210949
Chipset: Intel 2560 rev 1
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Manufacturer: Gateway 500S PLUS E-4000
Number of Memory Slots on Board: 2

If you need more info, I've probably got it...somewhere. LOL

Thanks


http://configurator.memorystock.com/...500S+Plus+2.4G

It is an 845G chipset with two slots. 2.4GHz FSB533 processor.
CPU input clock is 133MHz (FSB533), memory input clock is 133MHz (DDR266).
Single channel memory bus, four banks max (enough for two
double sided memory slots).

http://download.intel.com/design/chi...s/29074602.pdf

For that small a bus, and at that slow an operating speed, it is
not going to matter how the slots are populated.

I'd only note one other factor. There have been cases, where the BIOS
gets confused, while it is reading the DIMM slots.

Each DIMM should have a tiny SPD chip on it. That is an erasable
memory chip, which contains information about the memory module
characteristics. Sometimes, one order of the modules doesn't work
properly

1GB 256 "1280MB detected"

256 1GB " 256MB detected"

Sometimes, the detection of one module type, throws off the detection
of the other. This is a BIOS coding issue of some sort, a BIOS bug.
If you find that Windows cannot see something close to the full memory,
then try swapping the slots.

But in terms of actual stability, it shouldn't matter.

Any time you add memory to a system, test with memtest86+ from memtest.org
first (or one one of several other memory testers). This will give you
a quick indication of whether all is well or not. The test will run
forever, unless you stop it. I recommend two passes, as a quick test.
The thing is, the test is not that stressful for the memory, so it is
not the final authority as to whether the new memory is good.

Once that is finished, you can try booting into Windows. Your 845G
will be reserving some memory for the frame buffer (at least, unless
you have an add-in graphics card - one of those has its own graphics
memory). If you check Task Manager, you might see 1280MB - 8MB = 1272MB
physical memory installed. If using the internal graphics, a small amount
of memory is used for the frame buffer, and gets subtracted from the
total.

Then, you can try the Prime95 stress test. This version
is multithreaded (it can run on an old computer or a new one, and
uses as much of the processor as possible).

This program is from Mersenne.org, a site that is associated with
mathematics. They search for prime numbers. They have a stress test
option in their downloadable math program. People use this to test
that the CPU and memory of their computer are working correctly.
I run this for four hours, and no errors are acceptable. If the
computer passes this test, it is fine to use for real work (like
filling out your income taxes).

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html

I cannot get that page to load right now, so you may have to try
later. This is the source, but I don't like to overload their
server.

http://mersenneforum.org/gimps/p95v259.zip

( http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/ )

You don't have to "join" anything, to use the stress test option.
The default settings should do a blended test, and the larger
FFT test gives the memory a good workout. The program knows
what the answer should be, which is why it can detect errors
when they happen. The program stops on the first error detected.
It is the amount of time for this to happen, that hints at how
stable the computer. My worst record, is the test stopping
in only two seconds :-) Really unstable...

Paul
  #11  
Old June 12th 09, 03:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Paul
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Dale wrote:
BIOS Type: AMI
BIOS Date: August 21st 2003
BIOS OEM: BIOS Date: 08/21/03 09:49:46 Ver: 08.00.09 -
RG84510A.15A.0057.P19.0308210949
Chipset: Intel 2560 rev 1
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Manufacturer: Gateway 500S PLUS E-4000
Number of Memory Slots on Board: 2

If you need more info, I've probably got it...somewhere. LOL

Thanks


http://configurator.memorystock.com/...500S+Plus+2.4G

It is an 845G chipset with two slots. 2.4GHz FSB533 processor.
CPU input clock is 133MHz (FSB533), memory input clock is 133MHz (DDR266).
Single channel memory bus, four banks max (enough for two
double sided memory slots).

http://download.intel.com/design/chi...s/29074602.pdf

For that small a bus, and at that slow an operating speed, it is
not going to matter how the slots are populated.

I'd only note one other factor. There have been cases, where the BIOS
gets confused, while it is reading the DIMM slots.

Each DIMM should have a tiny SPD chip on it. That is an erasable
memory chip, which contains information about the memory module
characteristics. Sometimes, one order of the modules doesn't work
properly

1GB 256 "1280MB detected"

256 1GB " 256MB detected"

Sometimes, the detection of one module type, throws off the detection
of the other. This is a BIOS coding issue of some sort, a BIOS bug.
If you find that Windows cannot see something close to the full memory,
then try swapping the slots.

But in terms of actual stability, it shouldn't matter.

Any time you add memory to a system, test with memtest86+ from memtest.org
first (or one one of several other memory testers). This will give you
a quick indication of whether all is well or not. The test will run
forever, unless you stop it. I recommend two passes, as a quick test.
The thing is, the test is not that stressful for the memory, so it is
not the final authority as to whether the new memory is good.

Once that is finished, you can try booting into Windows. Your 845G
will be reserving some memory for the frame buffer (at least, unless
you have an add-in graphics card - one of those has its own graphics
memory). If you check Task Manager, you might see 1280MB - 8MB = 1272MB
physical memory installed. If using the internal graphics, a small amount
of memory is used for the frame buffer, and gets subtracted from the
total.

Then, you can try the Prime95 stress test. This version
is multithreaded (it can run on an old computer or a new one, and
uses as much of the processor as possible).

This program is from Mersenne.org, a site that is associated with
mathematics. They search for prime numbers. They have a stress test
option in their downloadable math program. People use this to test
that the CPU and memory of their computer are working correctly.
I run this for four hours, and no errors are acceptable. If the
computer passes this test, it is fine to use for real work (like
filling out your income taxes).

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html

I cannot get that page to load right now, so you may have to try
later. This is the source, but I don't like to overload their
server.

http://mersenneforum.org/gimps/p95v259.zip

( http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/ )

You don't have to "join" anything, to use the stress test option.
The default settings should do a blended test, and the larger
FFT test gives the memory a good workout. The program knows
what the answer should be, which is why it can detect errors
when they happen. The program stops on the first error detected.
It is the amount of time for this to happen, that hints at how
stable the computer. My worst record, is the test stopping
in only two seconds :-) Really unstable...

Paul
  #12  
Old June 13th 09, 05:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Mr. Smith
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:10:01 -0700, Dale
wrote:

Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You


Why bother asking here? This is totally hardware dependent and has
nothing to do with the OS
  #13  
Old June 13th 09, 05:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Mr. Smith
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:10:01 -0700, Dale
wrote:

Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?

Belarc Advisor reports:
Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB
Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB

I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each
memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700
added later, but purchased from Gateway.

Thank You


Why bother asking here? This is totally hardware dependent and has
nothing to do with the OS
  #14  
Old June 13th 09, 12:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Malke[_2_]
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Posts: 4,341
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Mr. Smith wrote:

Why bother asking here? This is totally hardware dependent and has
nothing to do with the OS


Off your meds again I see. Did you think we wouldn't notice your garbage
postings just because you're using another name?

Find another hobby, creep. You're not welcome here.

Malke
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Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
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  #15  
Old June 13th 09, 12:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Malke[_2_]
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Posts: 4,341
Default Memory Slots

Mr. Smith wrote:

Why bother asking here? This is totally hardware dependent and has
nothing to do with the OS


Off your meds again I see. Did you think we wouldn't notice your garbage
postings just because you're using another name?

Find another hobby, creep. You're not welcome here.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

 




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