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Old April 16th 19, 11:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it
works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing
out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work.
It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to
print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer....

What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses.
I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering
drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two.

Has to work with Linux and Windows XP.
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Old April 16th 19, 11:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it
works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing
out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work.
It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to
print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer....

What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses.
I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering
drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two.

Has to work with Linux and Windows XP.


Laser. Lasts for ever and never dries out.
I have an old Brother MFC-7220 b&w that I use for XP and 7.
Have not tried it with Linux though.

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Old April 17th 19, 12:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:24:31 -0400, default
wrote:

I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it
works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing
out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work.
It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to
print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer....

What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses.
I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering
drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two.

Has to work with Linux and Windows XP.


Laser is the way to go.

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Old April 17th 19, 12:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:39:06 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
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default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it
works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing
out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work.
It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to
print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer....

What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses.
I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering
drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two.

Has to work with Linux and Windows XP.


Laser. Lasts for ever and never dries out.
I have an old Brother MFC-7220 b&w that I use for XP and 7.
Have not tried it with Linux though.


I've found this one Brother HL-L2300D Monochrome Laser.

Looks like it has drivers for Linux and XP to Windows 10.
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Old April 17th 19, 01:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it
works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing
out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work.
It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to
print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer....

What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses.
I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering
drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two.

Has to work with Linux and Windows XP.


As most others have already pointed out, Laser is the way to go. AFAIK, the
*only* way to go! I won't even consider an ink jet, for the reasons you've
mentioned, plus some. The *only* disadvantage of an affordable laser
printer is it's just black and white, unless you want to spend the big
bucks.

I mean, think about it - getting around 1000 or more pages per toner
cartridge is a pretty good deal. The toner cartridges aren't cheap, but
they last so long it makes it worth it. And you don't have to worry about
ink pens drying out, or bleeding on the pages, etc, etc.

Some of the (typically older) laser printers will still work on WinXP.
Just be sure to check that out in the specs before you buy, because not all
laser printers will, anymore.


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Old April 17th 19, 01:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 16/04/2019 23:24, default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it
works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing
out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work.


If all you are doing is to print a page or two every two months then
clearly you don't need any printer and instead you could copy the
document on to a flash drive and take it to your local library or to a
nearest shop (or to your friends if you have any but most people these
days aren't talking to their neighbours!!! either) that does printing
and let them charge you 10 cents per copy. It is much cheaper that way
then to have a monster in your house and.

All printers are the same. If your current printer is giving you
problems then there is no guarantee new printer won't give you the same
problems.


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times last week!!!



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Old April 17th 19, 02:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Paul in Houston TX wrote:

Laser. Lasts for ever and never dries out.


Toner doesn't have solvent as do inks. However, there is a binder
(polymer) coating the powder which is what makes the powder stick to the
paper when applied with heat. There is also a lubricant to keep the
granules from sticking together, the lack of which causes more noise and
streaking. Toners do expire but, so far, users have shown the actual
expiration is many years after the printed expiration.

After unsealing the toner cartridge and using in high humidity, the
powder can cake up. Refilled cartridges are more susceptible to
humidity, especially since the "plant" isn't as dry during manufacture.

Users tend to print in a few areas of the page the most, and there is no
agitator inside the toner cartridge to redistribute the powder. When
contrast become irregular, take out the toner cartridge and tilt it side
to side several times to redistribute the powder. Users think the toner
got used up when, in fact, there is still lots of powder inside but not
in the section where they print the most.
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Old April 17th 19, 02:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 5:24:35 PM UTC-5, default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it
works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing
out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work.
It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to
print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer....

What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses.
I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering
drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two.

Has to work with Linux and Windows XP.


Get a b/w laser that is refillable.

My Brother HL 2240 is.

Andy
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Old April 17th 19, 02:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 17/04/2019 02:35, AK wrote:
Get a b/w laser that is refillable.

My Brother HL 2240 is.


You are also the village idiot here so do you want the OP to copy you?

Must be many in Dickinson, Texas like you!!




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Old April 17th 19, 03:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In message , AK
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Get a b/w laser


Agreed.

that is refillable.


What do you mean by refillable?
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Old April 17th 19, 08:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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default,

What technology is superior in that respect


Pretty-much /any/ other. :-(

BW is what I need for electrical engineering
drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two.


I still have an impact printer here (Epson LQ 400, 24 needles) which, after
having not absolutily nothing for more than a decade, printed away as if it
was used just yesterday. It looked a bit faded though. Maybe I should
find me a new ribbon ...

The only thing "wrong" with it is that expectations have changed, and its
prints are not considered acceptable anymore.

In comparision my Brother HL 14 laser printer started, after just a year or
two of not being used, putting a gray/black film over what it printed (still
using its origional cartridge), often causing it to become illegible.
Shaking the cartrige up didn't help, so I probably will have to buy a new
one (IOW: Not much different than for a inktjet, though it takes quite a bit
longer to arrive there)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old April 17th 19, 08:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In message , R.Wieser
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default,

What technology is superior in that respect


Pretty-much /any/ other. :-(

BW is what I need for electrical engineering
drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two.


I still have an impact printer here (Epson LQ 400, 24 needles) which, after
having not absolutily nothing for more than a decade, printed away as if it


That's reassuring to know!

was used just yesterday. It looked a bit faded though. Maybe I should
find me a new ribbon ...


If you examine the ribbon cartridge, in most cases you can prise the top
off carefully: there are often even screwdriver slots to help you! Once
you've done that (be careful the tightly-packed ribbon inside doesn't
pop out), a few drops - literally - of stamp-pad ink, left to soak in
and perhaps the ribbon run through a few times, will rejuventate it
considerably. (You can even use other than black, if you don't mind
printing in blue, red, or whatever!). The most difficult thing used to
be using too much ink; it's literally drops. (If you use too much it's
not catastrophic - you just need to print until the excess is used up.)
Nowadays it might be finding the ink; you want a good runny sort, not
the waxy sort sometimes sold for stamps. (Maybe other sorts of ink, such
as fountain pen ink; I'm not sure you can get stamp pad ink now, as I
think people use throwaway pads.)

The only thing "wrong" with it is that expectations have changed, and its
prints are not considered acceptable anymore.


I think once the ink is rejuvenated so it gives a good contrast, you'd
be surprised! Other than being monochrome, the quality - especially from
a 24-pin - is surprisingly good, as long as you don't have any images or
coloured logos.

In comparision my Brother HL 14 laser printer started, after just a year or
two of not being used, putting a gray/black film over what it printed (still
using its origional cartridge), often causing it to become illegible.


That's depressing.

Shaking the cartrige up didn't help, so I probably will have to buy a new
one (IOW: Not much different than for a inktjet, though it takes quite a bit
longer to arrive there)


)-:

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old April 17th 19, 02:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 8:43:06 PM UTC-5, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 17/04/2019 02:35, AK wrote:




Get a b/w laser that is refillable.

My Brother HL 2240 is.





You are also the village idiot here so do you want the OP to copy
you?



Must be many in Dickinson, Texas like you!!













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Old April 17th 19, 03:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 06:42:25 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 8:43:06 PM UTC-5, ? Good Guy ? wrote:
On 17/04/2019 02:35, AK wrote:




Get a b/w laser that is refillable.

My Brother HL 2240 is.





You are also the village idiot here so do you want the OP to copy
you?



Must be many in Dickinson, Texas like you!!













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devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is
higher than any previous version of windows.


Maybe one of these days you will grow up.


Don't hold your breath. Growth is not part of his agenda.
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Old April 17th 19, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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John,

after
having not absolutily nothing for more than a decade, printed away as if
it
was used just yesterday.


That's reassuring to know!


It was not cheap when I bought it, but than again I wanted a printer that
would survive my thanwhile C64 and be usable on other, later computers too.
And boy, that he certainly did make true. :-)

Once you've done that (be careful the tightly-packed ribbon inside doesn't
pop out), a few drops - literally - of stamp-pad ink, left to soak in and
perhaps the ribbon run through a few times, will rejuventate it
considerably.


I've still got some super-black, non-fading ink (calligraphy if I'm not
mistaken), which might be perfect for the job. I'll have to try it. Just
a few drops you say ? That should not be a problem.

.... and I just saw that I've still got the old "cartridge" (30 or so cm
wide) too, so I've got something to experiment on.

Thanks for reminding me.

after just a year or two of not being used, putting a gray/black film
over what it printed, often causing it to become illegible.


That's depressing.


Yep. I thought I had understood that that wouldn't happen with laser
printers, and was rathed disappointed when it did.

And I said a year or two ? Thinking back it might well be a couple of
years more than that. Still, I didn't expect that to happen with a dry
powder ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


 




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