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Old April 4th 17, 07:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
FreeUser
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Fiddled with stuff and got a few homegroup PCs to show up BUT.

But the names are NOT the PC names as in everything else but look like
the User Names. Why ?
What if I make all the user names the same as this would be legal.

How do I make the PC names show up rather than user names.

Anyway, aren't all users commmon in a homegroup or do I have to now
worry who is logged on at a particular PC ?

This is HOME Win 10 and it acts like ALIEN W10 from outer space.
Another reason Win10 was NOT named Win 9 since it was to be; plan Win 9
from outer space was already taken.

Come on MS make an OS for the home user EASIER ! NOT HARDER !
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Old April 4th 17, 07:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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I had to go through a different newsgroup provider but the just posted
previous post below this one went through no problem on the other
newsgroup provider.

Let's go back to teletype or better , morse code. More reliable !

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Old April 5th 17, 04:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
pjp[_10_]
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In article ,
says...

Fiddled with stuff and got a few homegroup PCs to show up BUT.

But the names are NOT the PC names as in everything else but look like
the User Names. Why ?
What if I make all the user names the same as this would be legal.

How do I make the PC names show up rather than user names.

Anyway, aren't all users commmon in a homegroup or do I have to now
worry who is logged on at a particular PC ?

This is HOME Win 10 and it acts like ALIEN W10 from outer space.
Another reason Win10 was NOT named Win 9 since it was to be; plan Win 9
from outer space was already taken.

Come on MS make an OS for the home user EASIER ! NOT HARDER !


I've stayed away from setting up any Homegroup instead using the tried
but works method of simply sharing specific folders in specific manner.
Only issues I found there were "Turn Off" needing a password and also
add "Everyone" to the list of users to allow sharing with. Set that user
to Read or Read/Write as required.

Works fine for the 9 pcs in this house with every pc having at least one
share on it and all of them accessing one specific pc that uses
multipule shares across a couple external hard disks to share the multi-
media library. There's also a couple of printers (with scanners)
networked and an IP camera monitors driveway and front door. Network
even uses a second router dummied down to act as a switch and provies
extended wireless range.

There is the odd "quirk" like sometimes one older XP pc can't connect to
a Win7 pc. Booting the Win7 pc always fixes the problem but have no idea
why it happens in the first place. That specific pc also seems to cause
issues when it's the Master Browser, rebooting allows any other pc to
instead become Master Browser which cures the problem. Over years now
I've only had to resort to rebooting basically everything maybe 3/4
times now.

All that said, the only thing I think HomeGroup provides is stream media
to a TV or XBox etc. stuff. That correct? If so I just use a pc
connected to tv and stereo for that
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Old April 5th 17, 11:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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FreeUser wrote:

Fiddled with stuff and got a few homegroup PCs to show up BUT.

But the names are NOT the PC names as in everything else but look like
the User Names. Why ?
What if I make all the user names the same as this would be legal.

How do I make the PC names show up rather than user names.

Anyway, aren't all users commmon in a homegroup or do I have to now
worry who is logged on at a particular PC ?

This is HOME Win 10 and it acts like ALIEN W10 from outer space.
Another reason Win10 was NOT named Win 9 since it was to be; plan Win 9
from outer space was already taken.

Come on MS make an OS for the home user EASIER ! NOT HARDER !


I did a test here.

I set up three virtual machines.

Windows 7
Windows 7
Windows 10

I set up a Homegroup, between the two Windows 7 machines.
Took no time at all.

Then, I tried to get Win10 to join the HomeGroup.

It resisted every effort. Gave the excuse about the
time clocks might be too far apart. Claimed there
was "No Internet". Kept losing the private network
setting. You name it, Win10 did it.

Windows 10 just seems to have too many dependencies, for
HomeGroup to work for every person who tries to set it up.
That's all I can figure.

I used VirtualBox for the test. I isolated the VMs from my
regular LAN by using the "Internal Network" setting, and had
to turn on VBoxManage DHCP. Still didn't help. HomeGroup
seemed to want a working DNS, and even with some hosts file
entries, still wasn't happy. My guess, is it wanted to communicate
with Microsoft for some reason.

The File Sharing on the other hand (common Workgroup setting,
three different user accounts on the machines), that worked
fine and without a lot of kicking and screaming. I think
the next time I need this, I'll just stick with File Sharing.

I have no way to effectively emulate your NAS. It would not
be easy to get any sort of technical information on what SMB
features are actually implemented. The NAS should have some
setting for WorkGroup, and it would be a good idea
to match that on the three computers.

If you do manage to connect the Win10 machine to the NAS,
you can try the PowerShell commandlet

Get-SMBConnection

to get details about the connection, and what flavor of SMB
it is using (1, 2, or 3). I don't know of a way to query
a remote device and see what protocols it nominally supports.

Paul
 




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