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Old June 13th 06, 05:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations

The thing I find most odd about the majority of these posts is that they
presuppose that Microsoft is a big bad an omnipotent being. They are, in
fact, quite the opposite. I can tell you of dozens of cases where they've
gone out of their way to help. WGA is just a tool, and like any tool can be
misused, in the wrong hands. It's a shame that this sort of fervour wasn't
raised by the devil you have running the US. Bush. If he raised this much
controversy then he wouldn't have gotten voted back in, and the world would
be a better place. The short answer for me is that, if you aren't doing
anything illegal, then what do you have to worry about? TTFN
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Old June 13th 06, 11:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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I see you are a MS MVP - presumably a Most Valuable Person.
So,
1) If you are angry or feeling superior for knowing what "replying to
someone in a
crossposted thread" means, the best way to get rid of these feelings
would be
to EXPLAIN what the above "crossposted thread" means and how it is done.

That way people could come to terms and know what you are talking about.

2)If the task in 1) is too mundane for you, may be you can prove your mettle
by
working in the MS fun lab where they produce "security patches updates"
that
have "side effects" like "not being able to access My Documents folder".
They could use some MVP's there.

Meanwhile have fun revelling in your utterly superior knowledge. Isn't it
neat being
completely full of oneself? Totally, dude!

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

If you're going to reply to someone in a crossposted thread, at least learn
how to crosspost yourself before doing so.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Jon" wrote in message
newsan.2006.06.12.00.29.33.392882@SomewhereOrOth er.com...
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:52:05 -0400, kurttrail wrote:

Tom Willett wrote:

http://www.informationweek.com/inter...leID=188703441

LOL! Instead of phoning home every day, MS is changing it to every 14
days!

Whoopy-do!


With a summary of the past 2 weeks perhaps :-)

Jon



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Old June 14th 06, 02:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
POP wrote:

Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:

POP wrote:

Tom Willett wrote:

http://www.informationweek.com/inter...leID=188703441


If you want the real story, go to MS and read it there.

According to MS...

"Important

You've hidden important updates
You've asked us not to show you one or more
high-priority updates but your computer might be at risk
until they are installed. Restore them now"

...my computer is at risk because I won't let it reinstall
WGA.

Never, ever rely on the media for an accurate account of
anything, not even quotes!

Totally agreed.


All media links are good for are to tell you what
to look for at the horse's mouth (or whichever end).

In this case, I do believe it's the other end.

I could allow WGA to reinstall itself--it's already
downloaded, but I disabled it, and no matter what, my
firewall will not be letting it out--but I'm annoyed, and I
don't see that Microsoft has addressed the overall
intrusiveness issue.
Until it does, no WGA for me, even if it really does mean
buying a Mac or switching to Linux.

rl


Actually, if I could switch to Linux, I'd be there already. I'm
learning disabled due to a concussion several years back, and my
attempts at getting Linux up have failed to date. I can install
it and run it OK, but then collecting all the apps and drivers is
where I run into trouble.



From all I've read about Linux, I don't think your head injury has
anything to do with the problem you're having.


They might be available by now, but
drivers were a big problem last time I tried, and there are some
things MS does that Linux just doesn't do, or doesn't do well
yet. If you want more than Open Office with Linux, it's a lot of
work, especially if you aren't used to compiling and coding.
It's not WGA makes me think this way; it's the bugginess in
general of MS over the years, actually, plus the most obvious;
Linux is still free right now. I still keep Knoppix around for
playtime, but time isn't something I seem to have a lot of right
now. Oh well.



Linux seems to be geared towards those who are willing to devote much of
their free time to getting it set up and maintaining it.


Depends on the distro. I recently installed SuSE 9.1 Pro on one of my
boxen with very little fiddling to get everything working, including SMB
(that's Windows file sharing for those unfamiliar with the actual
protocol name). It's fast and everything works. If you do decide to go
with Linux get a decent distro. Fedora Core 4 isn't too bad either,
takes a bit more fiddling though. But considering all the fiddling we
see having to be done here with Windows to get stuff working right,
what's the difference? Concerning drivers issues, modern Linux distros
support most, if not all current hardware specs including a lot better
support of legacy hardware than XP currently does.

I have that
time right now, but soon I won't. My other issue is that (before this
WGA debacle) I wanted to keep the same platform at home that I will be
using at work.


Same here. Having the knowledge and ability to help others who run
Windows is very important to me.


For me, I'm pretty sure a Mac is going to be the answer (as it was in
the past).


Heh. Mac OSX is BSD-Linux with a happy Mac face. Essencially the only
difference to you will be the price of the hardware.


On the other hand--and again, based only on what I've read--Linux users
seem quite eager to convert the masses, so I do think the support is
there for those who want to switch.


As a Linux user for over a decade I can say that most Linux users I know
are quite happy to let the masses do whatever they want. Don't let the
advocacy clowns spamming these groups fool you. Fanatics are a loud
mouths, no matter what they're preaching, so they tend to steal focus
from reality.

Steve N.
 




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