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Old October 24th 16, 03:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Paul in Houston TX wrote:
F Volker wrote:
On 10/24/2016 06:08 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

To read PDF's I mostly use the paid version of Foxit Reader 2.2 (2129).
It's almost the same as the free version but adds highlight, underline,
graphics,
etc, and does not leave a watermark. Free versions usually leave a
watermark.
IMO, Foxit versions past 2.2 are bloatware, call home, garbage. PDF JS
is not wanted.


The FoxitReader version 8.1.0.1013 I installed does not leave watermarks nor is it bloated
(actually quite the opposite imho). And if you choose not to subscribe it won't 'call' home.


Foxit 2.2 is 2mb compressed.
8.1 is 49.7mb compressed.
Did not know that they did away with the watermarks on the free version though.
That's a good thing.


Much better than Foxit is PDF-XChange Viewer:

https://www.tracker-software.com/pro...xchange-viewer

Ignore the "The PDF-XChange Viewer has been discontinued and replaced by
the PDF-XChange Editor which is now available including all the features
of the Viewer and much, much more. . ." line. They're still developing
PDF-XChange Viewer and it works great. You can turn off all the items in
the menu which are only available in the paid version by going into
Edit|Preferences|Registration| and putting a checkmark by the option to
"Hide restricted, 'PRO' functions in the Free Viewer verson".

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Old October 24th 16, 03:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,comp.text.pdf
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 19:56:57 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:08:16 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

Ant wrote:
Hello.

I just installed 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 last night due to a HDD crash on my
old HDD with its Windows XP Pro SP3 and other old softwares. I have
to look for software replacements:

1. What is a good free PDF file editor to edit on exiting PDF files?
Basically, add/edit/remove texts and stuff.

2. I print to PDF files instead of the physical printer like from web
browsers, Offices, etc. What's a good software to do that? I am trying
to be paperless.

Thank you in advance.

The premise of PDF is that it is secure and text cannot be changed,



Sorry, but that is not correct. PDF files *can* be edited, if you have
an appropriate program, such as Adobe Acrobat, but not with a program
such as Adobe Reader.

Besides Adobe Acrobat, there are also many other choices. A Google
search will quickly turn up programs like PDFescape, PDF Pro, Sejda,
PDFzorro, DocHub, etc.

Also word processors like Microsoft Word and WordPerfect can edit pdf
files.

I've never used any of these, so I have no recommendations for Ant,
other than suggesting that he (she? it?) download and try all those
that are free.


I stand corrected. Thank you for the information.


You're welcome. Glad to help.
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Old October 25th 16, 01:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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John K.Eason wrote:
In article , (F Volker) wrote:


*From:* F Volker
*Date:* Mon, 24 Oct 2016 07:59:29 +0700

On 10/24/2016 06:08 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

To read PDF's I mostly use the paid version of Foxit Reader 2.2
(2129).
It's almost the same as the free version but adds highlight,
underline,
graphics,
etc, and does not leave a watermark. Free versions usually leave
a
watermark.
IMO, Foxit versions past 2.2 are bloatware, call home, garbage.
PDF JS
is not wanted.


The FoxitReader version 8.1.0.1013 I installed does not leave
watermarks nor is it bloated (actually quite the opposite imho).
And if you choose not to subscribe it won't 'call' home.


You can also use the current free version to add hilights, underline,
strike-through, graphics, etc.


Can it let me add, edit, remove, etc. stuff like texts?
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Old October 25th 16, 12:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article , (Ant)
wrote:

*From:*
(Ant)
*Date:* Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:37:22 -0500

John K.Eason wrote:
In article ,
(F
Volker) wrote:


*From:* F Volker
*Date:* Mon, 24 Oct 2016 07:59:29 +0700

On 10/24/2016 06:08 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

To read PDF's I mostly use the paid version of Foxit Reader

2.2 (2129).
It's almost the same as the free version but adds highlight,
underline, graphics, etc, and does not leave a watermark. Free
versions usually leave a watermark.
IMO, Foxit versions past 2.2 are bloatware, call home,

garbage. PDF JS
is not wanted.

The FoxitReader version 8.1.0.1013 I installed does not leave
watermarks nor is it bloated (actually quite the opposite

imho). And if you choose not to subscribe it won't 'call' home.


You can also use the current free version to add hilights,
underline, strike-through, graphics, etc.


Can it let me add, edit, remove, etc. stuff like texts?


No. Apart from hilighting, etc., you can't modify existing text in the PDF. I.e:
it isn't a PDF editor, it's a reader with a few additional features allowing you to
annotate the content:
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/

To allow full editing you would need a proper paid-for editor such as Foxit
PhantomPDF Business which is $139.
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Old October 25th 16, 03:28 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Ant" wrote

| You can also use the current free version to add hilights, underline,
| strike-through, graphics, etc.
|
| Can it let me add, edit, remove, etc. stuff like texts?

You can fill in forms and do some editing with the free
version of PDF XChange Viewer. There are some limitations
but some of those are avoidable. For instance, the free
version won't let you create a PDF, but you can create
a PDF in Libre Office and then edit that. I'm not sure
of the exact limitations. I've only needed it to fill in tax
forms and occasionaly to add text notes. I've never
had reason to change the text of a PDF that I didn't write.

If you look at CutePDF you'll see that even their Pro
version only lists the ability to do limited editing. I don't
think you're going to find a fullscale editor without buying
Acrobat, which is ridiculously expensive. PDF XChange Viewer
v. 2.5 is the best I know of.

Other options:

* Libre Office can save anything you write as PDF.

* Cute PDF Writer can "print" HTML to PDF, which is
handy because HTML layout is very flexible.

* XPDF and other tools can extract text and images
from a PDF, though the text rarely comes out without
a few mistakes.

In some cases a PDF may be locked against extraction or
copying text to the Clipboard, but that lock is just a "flag"
in the file. The locking requires that the software reading the
file respect the lock.
I use Sumatra for basic PDF reading. It's lightweight
and safe. (No javascript functionality.) There's no reason
I know of to use bloated, risky software like Acrobat Reader
to just read a PDF. And Sumatra can export the PDF as text.
The source code of Sumatra is also available. A simple edit
in the source code of Sumatra, with recompiling, can bypass
any locked PDF restrictions that would block copying or
saving the text. Other software might
also ignore the lock. (See below.) Password protection with
encryption, though, is a different matter. There's some
software that claims to handle that. On the other hand, it's
questionable whether anyone would have legitimate reason
to change a PDF that's been password protected.

I often want to extract the text from a long PDF because
the format is awkward for reading and is inflexible. So being
able to bypass any lock is handy.

PDF is an oddball format, designed to provide dependable
printing but also designed to give business people the
impression of relative immutability that they're used to with
paper documents. Digital media are difficult to make immutable,
but Adobe have used a number of gimmicks to achieve the
appearance:

* It's a very complex format, so not just anyone can write
a decent editor for it.

* The format includes lock and password-protecting option.

* The full-function software to edit it is grossly overpriced.

Those factors combined ensure that PDFs are mainly created
by business, with most people acccustomed to only viewing
them and regarding them as immutable... which is exactly what
business producers of PDFs want. They want to send official docs
on official stationery, in digital versions. They don't mind paying
a high price for the software because it gives them some degree
of exclusivity.
The lock option, as noted above, is actually only a "flag" or
marker in the file. There's no actual lock. And the file format is
made available by Adobe. People might just as easily make JPG
lockable. But most authors of PDF software respect Adobe's
precedent of making a PDF lockable. (Perhaps they fear reprisal if
they don't respect it. I don't know.) Thus, Sumatra respects
the PDF lock despite being open source software! Adobe just
came up with the general idea of an immutable business doc
years ago and no one has thought to say the emperor has no
clothes.


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Old October 25th 16, 09:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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John K.Eason wrote:
In article , (Ant)
wrote:


*From:*
(Ant)
*Date:* Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:37:22 -0500

John K.Eason wrote:
In article ,
(F
Volker) wrote:


*From:* F Volker
*Date:* Mon, 24 Oct 2016 07:59:29 +0700

On 10/24/2016 06:08 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

To read PDF's I mostly use the paid version of Foxit Reader
2.2 (2129).
It's almost the same as the free version but adds highlight,
underline, graphics, etc, and does not leave a watermark. Free
versions usually leave a watermark.
IMO, Foxit versions past 2.2 are bloatware, call home,
garbage. PDF JS
is not wanted.

The FoxitReader version 8.1.0.1013 I installed does not leave
watermarks nor is it bloated (actually quite the opposite
imho). And if you choose not to subscribe it won't 'call' home.


You can also use the current free version to add hilights,
underline, strike-through, graphics, etc.


Can it let me add, edit, remove, etc. stuff like texts?


No. Apart from hilighting, etc., you can't modify existing text in the PDF. I.e:
it isn't a PDF editor, it's a reader with a few additional features allowing you to
annotate the content:
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/

To allow full editing you would need a proper paid-for editor such as Foxit
PhantomPDF Business which is $139.


Thanks.
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