Cloud Storage

John Corliss laid this down on his screen :
Stan Brown wrote:
John Corliss wrote:
CloudUser wrote:
[quoted text muted]

Pros and Cons please all available.

I will encrypt anything I store there so no worries.

Probably the major complaint that I have is that you cross-posted your
message into three other groups.

You use that word "cross-posted". I do not think it means what you
think it means.

The OP's headers show the following:

Newsgroups:
alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.ge neral,microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion,sci.e lectronics.design

That means his message got concurrently posted in all those groups and
that most people who reply to his post will also inadvertently post
their replies to the same groups.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...e%3Across+post

Just exactly what meaning do /YOU/ have for the term "cross-posted"?

Posting while angry?

John Larkin explained on 10/6/2016 :
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:23:02 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 10/5/2016 6:34 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 11:49:44 -0700, CloudUser
wrote:

Please help me decide on a free cloud storage service.
MS One Drive
Google Drive

or ???

Pros and Cons please all available.

I will encrypt anything I store there so no worries.


I like Dropbox.

In 2012, Dropbox was hacked. User account information was copied. Just
recently, it was discovered that the hack included users' account
passwords. Not all users were affected, but I have seen estimates far
exceeding 10,000,000 for the number of affected users.

I signed up after that, so I wasn't hacked.

Yahoo had 500 million accounts hacked.

Potentially. They actually had about that many password hashes stolen,
*some* of which may have been attacked by using tables in the
intervening two and a half years. Then *some* of those passwords used
to compromise accounts which still had those same passwords in use.

I don't think it can be known how many actual accounts were hacked.

:: On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 09:13:11 -0400
::
(alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.g eneral,microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion,sci. electronics.design) ::
:: FromTheRafters
wrote:

John Larkin explained on 10/6/2016 :
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:23:02 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 10/5/2016 6:34 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 11:49:44 -0700, CloudUser
wrote:
Please help me decide on a free cloud storage service.
MS One Drive
Google Drive
or ???
Pros and Cons please all available.
I will encrypt anything I store there so no worries.
I like Dropbox.
In 2012, Dropbox was hacked. User account information was
copied. Just
recently, it was discovered that the hack included users' account
passwords. Not all users were affected, but I have seen estimates
far exceeding 10,000,000 for the number of affected users.

I signed up after that, so I wasn't hacked.

Yahoo had 500 million accounts hacked.

Potentially. They actually had about that many password hashes
stolen, *some* of which may have been attacked by using tables in the
intervening two and a half years. Then *some* of those passwords used
to compromise accounts which still had those same passwords in use.

I don't think it can be known how many actual accounts were hacked.


https://haveibeenpwned.com/

g

It happens that Arne Saknussemm formulated :
On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 09:13:11 -0400

(alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.g eneral,microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion,sci. electronics.design)
:: :: FromTheRafters
wrote:

John Larkin explained on 10/6/2016 :
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:23:02 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 10/5/2016 6:34 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 11:49:44 -0700, CloudUser
wrote:
Please help me decide on a free cloud storage service.
MS One Drive
Google Drive
or ???
Pros and Cons please all available.
I will encrypt anything I store there so no worries.
I like Dropbox.
In 2012, Dropbox was hacked. User account information was
copied. Just
recently, it was discovered that the hack included users' account
passwords. Not all users were affected, but I have seen estimates
far exceeding 10,000,000 for the number of affected users.

I signed up after that, so I wasn't hacked.

Yahoo had 500 million accounts hacked.

Potentially. They actually had about that many password hashes
stolen, *some* of which may have been attacked by using tables in the
intervening two and a half years. Then *some* of those passwords used
to compromise accounts which still had those same passwords in use.

I don't think it can be known how many actual accounts were hacked.


https://haveibeenpwned.com/

g

From that site:
================================================== ============
Yahoo
In July 2012, Yahoo! had their online publishing service "Voices"
compromised via a SQL injection attack. The breach resulted in the
disclosure of nearly half a million usernames and passwords stored in
plain text. The breach showed that of the compromised accounts, a
staggering 59% of people who also had accounts in the Sony breached
reused their passwords across both services.

Compromised data: Email addresses, Passwords
================================================== ============

I disagree that they were storing plain text passwords and that every
one was then used to "hack" an account. Having your password
compromised, even if it was stored in plain text, does not mean it was
actually used to attack an account.

http://security.stackexchange.com/qu...len-from-yahoo

http://www.darkreading.com/safely-st...a/d-id/1269374

On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:11:45 -0700, John Corliss wrote:
Stan Brown wrote:
[quoted text muted]
message into three other groups.

You use that word "cross-posted". I do not think it means what you
think it means.

The OP's headers show the following:

Newsgroups:
alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.ge neral,microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion,sci.e lectronics.design

You're right; I was wrong. I can't imagine how I misread the OP's
Newsgroups line, but I did.

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Shikata ga nai...

CloudUser wrote...

Please help me decide on a free cloud storage service.
MS One Drive
Google Drive

or ???

Nobody mentioned MEGA.co.nz 50GB Here's a
review, http://www.cloudwards.net/review/mega/


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Thanks,
- Win

On 10/8/2016 8:21 AM, Winfield Hill wrote:
CloudUser wrote...

Please help me decide on a free cloud storage service.
MS One Drive
Google Drive

or ???

Nobody mentioned MEGA.co.nz 50GB Here's a
review, http://www.cloudwards.net/review/mega/



Is that not a reincarnation of Megaupload and thus possibly subject to
the same fate?

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/.

Donald Trump claims he is a successful businessman.
If so, how does he explain the number of his
enterprises that have gone bankrupt?

CloudUser wrote:
Please help me decide on a free cloud storage service.
MS One Drive
Google Drive

or ???

Pros and Cons please all available.

I will encrypt anything I store there so no worries.


I have used Google Drive for a couple years. It allows you to drag a
file to its folder on your hard drive, then it copies it to their
server. Any other computer logged into the same account is then synced
to its local Google folder. I currently have 17 GB of free storage. That
is plenty for some datasheets and test equipment manuals.


--
Never **** off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)

In message , Wolf K
writes:
[]
But I don't entirely rely on cloud for backup. For important stuff,
keep local copies on external drives. I print a hard copy of really
important stuff. Hard copy doesn't need electricity for preservation or
reading.

Though if you do the reading with candles, the chances of destroying
your hard copy might be higher ... (-:

Have a good day,


--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"When _I_ saw him, he was dead." "uh, he looked exactly the same when he was
alive, except he was vertical." (The Trouble with Harry)

On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 08:11:04 +1000, J. P. Gilliver (John)
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
[]
But I don't entirely rely on cloud for backup. For important stuff,
keep local copies on external drives. I print a hard copy of really
important stuff. Hard copy doesn't need electricity for preservation or
reading.

Though if you do the reading with candles, the chances of destroying
your hard copy might be higher ... (-:

Have a good day,



Don't auto sync ANY document to the cloud. Most servers store your files
unencrypted - no matter what they say (of the few that can/have be
examined, most told customers there data was safe (sometimes also said it
was encrypted)and yet they stored the data exactly as sent to them.)

If this is your business you are betting your opposition is not going to
try hacking to get your data. You are further betting that an APT will not
hack and just send your data to a friendly company of the same nationality
as theirs.

On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 22:51:09 +1000, Wolf K wrote:

On 2016-11-01 21:14, David Eather wrote:
[...]

Don't auto sync ANY document to the cloud. Most servers store your files
unencrypted - no matter what they say (of the few that can/have be
examined, most told customers there data was safe (sometimes also said
it
was encrypted)and yet they stored the data exactly as sent to them.)

So if you send encrypted files, that's what's stored, right?

encrypted files are fine - as long as the password is strong (use a
password manager)
- the best is here
https://pwsafe.org/

designed by an experienced and respected cryptographer - there is even a
port that will run on a RPi!



If this is your business you are betting your opposition is not going to
try hacking to get your data. You are further betting that an APT will
not
hack and just send your data to a friendly company of the same
nationality
as theirs.

Good points, if security is the top priority. For non-business users, I
think that's less of a concern, just avoid storing sensitive data such
as credit card data.


Identity theft. Cyber Stalking.