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strange files on my computer
I found four strange files on my computer today:
edbres000001.jrs edbres000002.jrs edb.chk edb.log I understand that these normally having something to do with Win-7 error checking. What I am concerned about is that they appeared in my Downloads directory. All except the .chk file are the exact same length (5,120 kb),. The .chk file is 8 kb.) All are time stamped yesterday, about 5 pm. Note that these same file names exist in windows/softwaredistribution/datastore/logs where the size of the three larger is 1,280 kb. The latest date modified on those is 02/08/2018. So, what are these new ones doing there, and can I delete them? -dan z- -- Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world. (Anonymous) |
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strange files on my computer
slate_leeper wrote:
I found four strange files on my computer today: edbres000001.jrs edbres000002.jrs edb.chk edb.log I understand that these normally having something to do with Win-7 error checking. What I am concerned about is that they appeared in my Downloads directory. All except the .chk file are the exact same length (5,120 kb),. The .chk file is 8 kb.) All are time stamped yesterday, about 5 pm. Note that these same file names exist in windows/softwaredistribution/datastore/logs where the size of the three larger is 1,280 kb. The latest date modified on those is 02/08/2018. So, what are these new ones doing there, and can I delete them? -dan z- Would they be journal files for a Jet Blue ESE database ? Microsoft likes to use that, for things like SearchIndexer, WindowsUpdate, and possibly some mail project. There's not a good reason for that to be in your Downloads folder. If you had a portable tool, that made a jounaled database, then that might explain it. Find some files ending in .edb on your computer, and see if a set of journal files are right next to it. Then compare the names, to see if the names have a similar format. Windows.edb is used by the Search Indexer. And somewhere in SoftwareDistribution, should be some sort of .edb file as well. You may need something like Agent Ransack, to find files like that. For example, the Search Indexer is not allowed to index its own database file (as that would cause a loop), so by definition a Windows search box should not be able to locate Windows.edb. But Agent Ransack or Everything.exe shouldn't have a problem finding some .edb files for you. ******* If you were a crazy person, you could go to the Search Indexer control panel, move the location of the database to your Downloads folder. And maybe then the journal files would end up in Downloads ? Paul |
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strange files on my computer
On Thu, 05 Apr 2018 14:27:35 -0400, Paul
wrote: slate_leeper wrote: I found four strange files on my computer today: edbres000001.jrs edbres000002.jrs edb.chk edb.log I understand that these normally having something to do with Win-7 error checking. What I am concerned about is that they appeared in my Downloads directory. All except the .chk file are the exact same length (5,120 kb),. The .chk file is 8 kb.) All are time stamped yesterday, about 5 pm. Note that these same file names exist in windows/softwaredistribution/datastore/logs where the size of the three larger is 1,280 kb. The latest date modified on those is 02/08/2018. So, what are these new ones doing there, and can I delete them? -dan z- Would they be journal files for a Jet Blue ESE database ? Microsoft likes to use that, for things like SearchIndexer, WindowsUpdate, and possibly some mail project. There's not a good reason for that to be in your Downloads folder. If you had a portable tool, that made a jounaled database, then that might explain it. Find some files ending in .edb on your computer, and see if a set of journal files are right next to it. Then compare the names, to see if the names have a similar format. Windows.edb is used by the Search Indexer. And somewhere in SoftwareDistribution, should be some sort of .edb file as well. You may need something like Agent Ransack, to find files like that. For example, the Search Indexer is not allowed to index its own database file (as that would cause a loop), so by definition a Windows search box should not be able to locate Windows.edb. But Agent Ransack or Everything.exe shouldn't have a problem finding some .edb files for you. ******* If you were a crazy person, you could go to the Search Indexer control panel, move the location of the database to your Downloads folder. And maybe then the journal files would end up in Downloads ? Paul Hi Paul, I actually have the search indexer turned off (windows search service set to disabled.) All the .edb files found with Ransack seem to be related to Windows Live Mail and Calendar, which may explain this. I just installed eM Client email on both my Win-7 and new Win-10 computers. I am going to be using this program as the default email on the Win-10 computer. I installed it on this Win-7 computer because it automatically imports all your existing contacts, emails, etc. from Windows Live Mail, making it easy to put them on the new computer. The eM Client install file is in the Downloads folder. Perhaps it installed these files in that same folder instead of in it's own folder in appdata. On the other hand, maybe not related. Just ran that email program, and date modified on these files did not change. But then the Live Mail ones haven't changed since early February, and I run that at least once daily. Balloon tip hovering over the edb.chk file says "Recovered file fragment - pieces of files found when your disk was scanned." Scanned by what? I am not aware of any scans performed. So last night I ran chkdsk /f /r /b. All checks, including files, passed with zero errors until the end where, just before it finished and vanished from screen to finish bootup, I saw something like "Bitmap has been repaired." -dan z- -- Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world. (Anonymous) |
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strange files on my computer
slate_leeper wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2018 14:27:35 -0400, Paul wrote: slate_leeper wrote: I found four strange files on my computer today: edbres000001.jrs edbres000002.jrs edb.chk edb.log I understand that these normally having something to do with Win-7 error checking. What I am concerned about is that they appeared in my Downloads directory. All except the .chk file are the exact same length (5,120 kb),. The .chk file is 8 kb.) All are time stamped yesterday, about 5 pm. Note that these same file names exist in windows/softwaredistribution/datastore/logs where the size of the three larger is 1,280 kb. The latest date modified on those is 02/08/2018. So, what are these new ones doing there, and can I delete them? -dan z- Would they be journal files for a Jet Blue ESE database ? Microsoft likes to use that, for things like SearchIndexer, WindowsUpdate, and possibly some mail project. There's not a good reason for that to be in your Downloads folder. If you had a portable tool, that made a jounaled database, then that might explain it. Find some files ending in .edb on your computer, and see if a set of journal files are right next to it. Then compare the names, to see if the names have a similar format. Windows.edb is used by the Search Indexer. And somewhere in SoftwareDistribution, should be some sort of .edb file as well. You may need something like Agent Ransack, to find files like that. For example, the Search Indexer is not allowed to index its own database file (as that would cause a loop), so by definition a Windows search box should not be able to locate Windows.edb. But Agent Ransack or Everything.exe shouldn't have a problem finding some .edb files for you. ******* If you were a crazy person, you could go to the Search Indexer control panel, move the location of the database to your Downloads folder. And maybe then the journal files would end up in Downloads ? Paul Hi Paul, I actually have the search indexer turned off (windows search service set to disabled.) All the .edb files found with Ransack seem to be related to Windows Live Mail and Calendar, which may explain this. I just installed eM Client email on both my Win-7 and new Win-10 computers. I am going to be using this program as the default email on the Win-10 computer. I installed it on this Win-7 computer because it automatically imports all your existing contacts, emails, etc. from Windows Live Mail, making it easy to put them on the new computer. The eM Client install file is in the Downloads folder. Perhaps it installed these files in that same folder instead of in it's own folder in appdata. On the other hand, maybe not related. Just ran that email program, and date modified on these files did not change. But then the Live Mail ones haven't changed since early February, and I run that at least once daily. Balloon tip hovering over the edb.chk file says "Recovered file fragment - pieces of files found when your disk was scanned." Scanned by what? I am not aware of any scans performed. So last night I ran chkdsk /f /r /b. All checks, including files, passed with zero errors until the end where, just before it finished and vanished from screen to finish bootup, I saw something like "Bitmap has been repaired." -dan z- So they weren't really committed and may have been a transient from your eM Client. Maybe something was doing a "conversion", and it crashed or something, leaving debris behind ? But now that CHKDSK has removed them, the only conclusion now is, that you were hallucinating :-) That's what the computer said. If could be that your eM Client copied a .edb file into your Downloads to do some work, and that cruft is produced by the database engine that tried to access/query the database. That would be my guess why such files would be around. How at least some email clients work, is they carry out a protocol with a running copy of the old client, and they ask the program to send them a .mbox for each email message in the database. That scheme is supposed to avoid the need for one program to be "snooping" directly into the database format of the other program. Importation at the message-by-message level, avoids having to do database work. Paul |
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strange files on my computer
On Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:17:41 -0400, Paul
wrote: So they weren't really committed and may have been a transient from your eM Client. Maybe something was doing a "conversion", and it crashed or something, leaving debris behind ? But now that CHKDSK has removed them, the only conclusion now is, that you were hallucinating :-) That's what the computer said. If could be that your eM Client copied a .edb file into your Downloads to do some work, and that cruft is produced by the database engine that tried to access/query the database. That would be my guess why such files would be around. How at least some email clients work, is they carry out a protocol with a running copy of the old client, and they ask the program to send them a .mbox for each email message in the database. That scheme is supposed to avoid the need for one program to be "snooping" directly into the database format of the other program. Importation at the message-by-message level, avoids having to do database work. Paul I really appreciate you taking some time to help me try to figure this out, Paul. Sometimes trying to explain things brings new realizations and clarity. You were a big help. Anyhow, I guess the Win-7 system is OK, and I will just delete those files. I had already changed the file names to originalname.bak with no apparent changes in system behavior. -dan z- -- Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world. (Anonymous) |
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