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  #16  
Old January 22nd 09, 07:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Twayne[_2_]
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Default Deleting Programs

Carl has brought this to us :
I am a Mac user, new to Windows.

I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using
the Add
or Remove Programs control panel.

Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I
come up
with three folders: Components, Defaults, and
Plugins.

May I just right click on these and delete
them?

Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove
Programs
control panel? Is there some Program I could
download, as there is for
the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a
program,
safely delete every file associated with that
program?

Many thanks,
Carl


Carl, the best way to remove a program
completely, is to
monitor the installation when you first install
it. The
two programs below do just that and will in most
cases
completely remove it or in the case of Total
Uninstall,
show you a list of the files and registry
entries that it
could not remove.
Total Uninstall (The last freeware version (I
still use
it) can be downloaded from he

http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...al%20Uninstall

I just came across this one the other day, and
it not
only will monitor your installation, but will
give you a
choice, when you uninstall a program, of
completely
uninstalling it or keep a reinstall record so
that you
can reinstall it if change your mind and want it
back
(kind of neat) It's a definite keeper for me.
AShampoo Magical Uninstall

http://www2.ashampoo.com/webcache/ht...0803___USD.htm

Although it is freeware at the moment, it may
not
continue to be so. I would get a copy now while
it is
still available. This one requires
registration, but the
entire process takes only a minute or two at the
most(I
wouldn't use my primary email address though,
because
these type of offers usually result in a
bombardment of
emails promoting there different products)
Note: So far, for me, Magical Uninstall has
performed an
install, uninstall and reinstall of the
applications I
tested flawlessly. Hope this helps you out.
Enjoy!


What about data files, etc., that a program
creates on the fly? Will it delete those and
their folders too? Many programs create new files
as they operate.

Twayne


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  #17  
Old January 22nd 09, 07:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Twayne[_2_]
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Posts: 4,276
Default Deleting Programs

Carl has brought this to us :
I am a Mac user, new to Windows.

I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using
the Add
or Remove Programs control panel.

Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I
come up
with three folders: Components, Defaults, and
Plugins.

May I just right click on these and delete
them?

Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove
Programs
control panel? Is there some Program I could
download, as there is for
the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a
program,
safely delete every file associated with that
program?

Many thanks,
Carl


Carl, the best way to remove a program
completely, is to
monitor the installation when you first install
it. The
two programs below do just that and will in most
cases
completely remove it or in the case of Total
Uninstall,
show you a list of the files and registry
entries that it
could not remove.
Total Uninstall (The last freeware version (I
still use
it) can be downloaded from he

http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...al%20Uninstall

I just came across this one the other day, and
it not
only will monitor your installation, but will
give you a
choice, when you uninstall a program, of
completely
uninstalling it or keep a reinstall record so
that you
can reinstall it if change your mind and want it
back
(kind of neat) It's a definite keeper for me.
AShampoo Magical Uninstall

http://www2.ashampoo.com/webcache/ht...0803___USD.htm

Although it is freeware at the moment, it may
not
continue to be so. I would get a copy now while
it is
still available. This one requires
registration, but the
entire process takes only a minute or two at the
most(I
wouldn't use my primary email address though,
because
these type of offers usually result in a
bombardment of
emails promoting there different products)
Note: So far, for me, Magical Uninstall has
performed an
install, uninstall and reinstall of the
applications I
tested flawlessly. Hope this helps you out.
Enjoy!


What about data files, etc., that a program
creates on the fly? Will it delete those and
their folders too? Many programs create new files
as they operate.

Twayne


  #18  
Old January 23rd 09, 12:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Ronaldo
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Default Deleting Programs

The Windows Add or Remove application does a good job but it uses the
application's uninstaller and these are designed to leave behind what the
new version may need from the previous version. If no new version is
installed the files can be deleted directly.

The three folders contain the Firefox settings and are left behind by the
Firefox uninstaller, anticipating that you are uninstalling one version of
firefox to install the latest.


To have the best chances of removing everything you installed during a
program installation, you need to monitor the installation with a Microsoft
product as "Windows Installer Cleanup" or a third party application like
"Total Uninstall"



-----------------------------
"Carl" escribió en el mensaje
...
I am a Mac user, new to Windows.

I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove
Programs control panel.

Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three
folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins.

May I just right click on these and delete them?

Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel?

Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that
will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file
associated with that program?

Many thanks,
Carl



  #19  
Old January 23rd 09, 12:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Ronaldo
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Posts: 527
Default Deleting Programs

The Windows Add or Remove application does a good job but it uses the
application's uninstaller and these are designed to leave behind what the
new version may need from the previous version. If no new version is
installed the files can be deleted directly.

The three folders contain the Firefox settings and are left behind by the
Firefox uninstaller, anticipating that you are uninstalling one version of
firefox to install the latest.


To have the best chances of removing everything you installed during a
program installation, you need to monitor the installation with a Microsoft
product as "Windows Installer Cleanup" or a third party application like
"Total Uninstall"



-----------------------------
"Carl" escribió en el mensaje
...
I am a Mac user, new to Windows.

I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove
Programs control panel.

Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three
folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins.

May I just right click on these and delete them?

Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel?

Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that
will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file
associated with that program?

Many thanks,
Carl



  #20  
Old January 23rd 09, 04:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bob
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Posts: 12
Default Deleting Programs



johnn wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:52 -0800 (PST), Carl wrote:



I use REVO uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html

As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that.
If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight.


Thanks, John. I downloaded Appupdater as I believed it would both
remove AND update programs but, when I tried to run it in the command
line, I realized I was in over my head. Got it to do a few things,
but if you don't know what you are doing there, best to back out and
try something else. REVO has a nice, simple GUI which is what a
newbie like me needs.

Again, my thanks,
Carl
  #21  
Old January 23rd 09, 04:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bob
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Posts: 12
Default Deleting Programs



johnn wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:52 -0800 (PST), Carl wrote:



I use REVO uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html

As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that.
If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight.


Thanks, John. I downloaded Appupdater as I believed it would both
remove AND update programs but, when I tried to run it in the command
line, I realized I was in over my head. Got it to do a few things,
but if you don't know what you are doing there, best to back out and
try something else. REVO has a nice, simple GUI which is what a
newbie like me needs.

Again, my thanks,
Carl
  #22  
Old January 23rd 09, 04:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bob
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Posts: 12
Default Deleting Programs


I use REVO uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html

As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that.
If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight.


I just downloaded and ran REVO uninstaller for the first time. I'd
like to check one thing.

When you get the window that says - - Please carefully verify the
bolded items! Only checked bolded items and their subitems will be
deleted! - - I presume them mean to check the bolded boxes as I have
dore he

http://a3.s3.p.quickshareit.com/files/picture2c3f3e.jpg

Did I do this right??? Keeping my fingers crossed that I did.

Carl
  #23  
Old January 23rd 09, 04:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bob
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12
Default Deleting Programs


I use REVO uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html

As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that.
If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight.


I just downloaded and ran REVO uninstaller for the first time. I'd
like to check one thing.

When you get the window that says - - Please carefully verify the
bolded items! Only checked bolded items and their subitems will be
deleted! - - I presume them mean to check the bolded boxes as I have
dore he

http://a3.s3.p.quickshareit.com/files/picture2c3f3e.jpg

Did I do this right??? Keeping my fingers crossed that I did.

Carl
  #24  
Old January 23rd 09, 05:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bob
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Posts: 12
Default Deleting Programs

One more question - how do you delete any and all games that came with
Windows? I couldn't seem to do it with REVO's Hunter Mode. Carl

johnn wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:52 -0800 (PST), Carl wrote:

I am a Mac user, new to Windows.

I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove
Programs control panel.

Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three
folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins.

May I just right click on these and delete them?

Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel?

Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that
will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file
associated with that program?

Many thanks,
Carl



Hi Carl:

I use REVO uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html

As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that.
If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight.

Cheers!
__________________________________
johnn
__________________________________
"God is dead"
- Nietzsche (1844-1935)
"Nietzsche is dead"
- God

  #25  
Old January 23rd 09, 05:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bob
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Posts: 12
Default Deleting Programs

One more question - how do you delete any and all games that came with
Windows? I couldn't seem to do it with REVO's Hunter Mode. Carl

johnn wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:52 -0800 (PST), Carl wrote:

I am a Mac user, new to Windows.

I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove
Programs control panel.

Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three
folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins.

May I just right click on these and delete them?

Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel?

Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that
will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file
associated with that program?

Many thanks,
Carl



Hi Carl:

I use REVO uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html

As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that.
If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight.

Cheers!
__________________________________
johnn
__________________________________
"God is dead"
- Nietzsche (1844-1935)
"Nietzsche is dead"
- God

  #26  
Old January 23rd 09, 03:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Default Deleting Programs

Just a little FYI, not a big hairy deal: The Windows Installer Cleanup
Utility uninstalls Windows Installer packages (*.msi) and components
(*.msp and *.mst). These objects contain the logic and data needed to
install and update applications installed using the Windows Installer
(aka MsiInstaller). It doesn't remove the application itself.

WICU can be very useful when Windows Installer packages become, shall we
say, buggered up and you find yourself unable to uninstall, reinstall or
update an application installed by Windows Installer. You use it it to
remove the installaer packages, and then you reinstall the application.
Now you can (hopefully) uninstall or update the application.

When you uninstall an application that uses Windows Installer, the
installer packages can get left behind. In this case - they're just
sitting there on your hard drive doing nothing, and go figure what that
huge .msp file with the cryptic name is - WICU gets rid of the installer
packages.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Ronaldo wrote:
The Windows Add or Remove application does a good job but it uses the
application's uninstaller and these are designed to leave behind what the
new version may need from the previous version. If no new version is
installed the files can be deleted directly.

The three folders contain the Firefox settings and are left behind by the
Firefox uninstaller, anticipating that you are uninstalling one version of
firefox to install the latest.


To have the best chances of removing everything you installed during a
program installation, you need to monitor the installation with a Microsoft
product as "Windows Installer Cleanup" or a third party application like
"Total Uninstall"



-----------------------------
"Carl" escribió en el mensaje
...
I am a Mac user, new to Windows.

I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove
Programs control panel.

Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three
folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins.

May I just right click on these and delete them?

Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel?

Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that
will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file
associated with that program?

Many thanks,
Carl



  #27  
Old January 23rd 09, 03:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Leonard Grey[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,048
Default Deleting Programs

Just a little FYI, not a big hairy deal: The Windows Installer Cleanup
Utility uninstalls Windows Installer packages (*.msi) and components
(*.msp and *.mst). These objects contain the logic and data needed to
install and update applications installed using the Windows Installer
(aka MsiInstaller). It doesn't remove the application itself.

WICU can be very useful when Windows Installer packages become, shall we
say, buggered up and you find yourself unable to uninstall, reinstall or
update an application installed by Windows Installer. You use it it to
remove the installaer packages, and then you reinstall the application.
Now you can (hopefully) uninstall or update the application.

When you uninstall an application that uses Windows Installer, the
installer packages can get left behind. In this case - they're just
sitting there on your hard drive doing nothing, and go figure what that
huge .msp file with the cryptic name is - WICU gets rid of the installer
packages.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Ronaldo wrote:
The Windows Add or Remove application does a good job but it uses the
application's uninstaller and these are designed to leave behind what the
new version may need from the previous version. If no new version is
installed the files can be deleted directly.

The three folders contain the Firefox settings and are left behind by the
Firefox uninstaller, anticipating that you are uninstalling one version of
firefox to install the latest.


To have the best chances of removing everything you installed during a
program installation, you need to monitor the installation with a Microsoft
product as "Windows Installer Cleanup" or a third party application like
"Total Uninstall"



-----------------------------
"Carl" escribió en el mensaje
...
I am a Mac user, new to Windows.

I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove
Programs control panel.

Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three
folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins.

May I just right click on these and delete them?

Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel?

Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that
will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file
associated with that program?

Many thanks,
Carl



  #28  
Old January 24th 09, 03:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
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Default Deleting Programs

Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility.

I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that)
contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications
installed using the Windows Installer"

Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2
came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this
utility?

Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows
Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall,
reinstall, or update it?

One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that
M/S installs and that I will never use?

Thanks,
Carl

  #29  
Old January 24th 09, 03:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
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Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility.

I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that)
contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications
installed using the Windows Installer"

Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2
came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this
utility?

Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows
Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall,
reinstall, or update it?

One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that
M/S installs and that I will never use?

Thanks,
Carl

  #30  
Old January 24th 09, 10:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Posts: 3,048
Default Deleting Programs

"Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2
came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this
utility?"

Correct, sort of, presuming that v.1 used the Windows Installer and v.1
can be upgraded to v.2. The Windows Installer objects have to remain on
your hard disk in order to upgrade. OTOH if v.2 works better as a clean
install - let's say you're "upgrading" from Office 2003 to Office 2007 -
you'll do better to remove the old installer packages with WICU.

Windows Installer objects live primarily in C:\Windows\Installer, which
is, of course, a hidden file that is often a gigabyte or more in size.

Steve Jobs would not put up with it.

"Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows
Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall,
reinstall, or update it?"

Correct.

"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"

Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Carl wrote:
Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility.

I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that)
contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications
installed using the Windows Installer"

Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2
came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this
utility?

Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows
Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall,
reinstall, or update it?

One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that
M/S installs and that I will never use?

Thanks,
Carl

 




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