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"Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2 came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this utility?" Correct, sort of, presuming that v.1 used the Windows Installer and v.1 can be upgraded to v.2. The Windows Installer objects have to remain on your hard disk in order to upgrade. OTOH if v.2 works better as a clean install - let's say you're "upgrading" from Office 2003 to Office 2007 - you'll do better to remove the old installer packages with WICU. Windows Installer objects live primarily in C:\Windows\Installer, which is, of course, a hidden file that is often a gigabyte or more in size. Steve Jobs would not put up with it. "Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall, reinstall, or update it?" Correct. "...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Carl wrote: Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility. I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that) contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications installed using the Windows Installer" Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say, version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2 came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this utility? Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall, reinstall, or update it? One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use? Thanks, Carl |
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Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Hi Leonard - I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games. I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows Components Wizard. I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and finished with the message that I had successfully completed the Wizards Component Wizard. However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of the games, the game opens. It's still there. See anything I am going wrong??? Again, many thanks for your help and patience. Carl |
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Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Hi Leonard - I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games. I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows Components Wizard. I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and finished with the message that I had successfully completed the Wizards Component Wizard. However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of the games, the game opens. It's still there. See anything I am going wrong??? Again, many thanks for your help and patience. Carl |
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What are the names of these games? AFAIK Windows XP does not include
that many games. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Carl wrote: Leonard Grey wrote: "...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Hi Leonard - I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games. I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows Components Wizard. I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and finished with the message that I had successfully completed the Wizards Component Wizard. However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of the games, the game opens. It's still there. See anything I am going wrong??? Again, many thanks for your help and patience. Carl |
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What are the names of these games? AFAIK Windows XP does not include
that many games. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Carl wrote: Leonard Grey wrote: "...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Hi Leonard - I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games. I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows Components Wizard. I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and finished with the message that I had successfully completed the Wizards Component Wizard. However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of the games, the game opens. It's still there. See anything I am going wrong??? Again, many thanks for your help and patience. Carl |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:07 -0800 (PST), Carl, in
, after much thought, came up with this jewel: Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility. I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that) contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications installed using the Windows Installer" Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say, version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2 came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this utility? Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall, reinstall, or update it? One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use? Thanks, Carl ***************begin canned response******************* What I use to clean and maintain Windows - Windows Update (free to use) http://www.update.microsoft.com/wind....aspx?ln=en-us Secunia Online Software Inspector (free to use) http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/ AntiVir (free version) http://www.free-av.com/ Windows Defender (free) http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...r/default.mspx for w2k users, see instructions he http://www.compatdb.org/support/topi...dows_2000.html SUPERAntiSpyware (free version) http://www.superantispyware.com/download.html If you can˙t download def. files you can get them he http://www.superantispyware.com/definitions.html Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware (free version) http://www.malwarebytes.org/index.php If you can˙t download def. files, you can get them he http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php SpywareBlaster (free) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html Windows Firewall (free)- w2k users can get sygate (old free version) http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=sygate Firefox with AdBlock/NoScript/WOT installed (free), set to ´defaultˇ browser http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ AdBlock https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 NoScript https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 WOT https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...?q=WOT&cat=all MVPS Hosts file (free) http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Thunderbird for e-mail (free), set to ´defaultˇ e-mail http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ Turn off un-needed Windows Services http://www.jasonn.com/turning_off_un..._on_windows_xp Update Java (delete old versions before update) http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp Buy a router w/built-in firewall (under $50) More things to help keep your system lean and mean Decrapify your PC http://pcdecrapifier.com/download Remove Adobe Acrobat Reader and use Foxit Reader http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/ CrapCleaner http://www.ccleaner.com/ JKDefrag http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/ ***************end canned response******************** max -- Virus Removal http://max.shplink.com/removal.html Keep Clean http://max.shplink.com/keepingclean.html Change nomail.afraid.org to gmail.com to reply by email. nomail.afraid.org is specifically setup for use in USENET |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:07 -0800 (PST), Carl, in
, after much thought, came up with this jewel: Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility. I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that) contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications installed using the Windows Installer" Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say, version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2 came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this utility? Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall, reinstall, or update it? One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use? Thanks, Carl ***************begin canned response******************* What I use to clean and maintain Windows - Windows Update (free to use) http://www.update.microsoft.com/wind....aspx?ln=en-us Secunia Online Software Inspector (free to use) http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/ AntiVir (free version) http://www.free-av.com/ Windows Defender (free) http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...r/default.mspx for w2k users, see instructions he http://www.compatdb.org/support/topi...dows_2000.html SUPERAntiSpyware (free version) http://www.superantispyware.com/download.html If you can˙t download def. files you can get them he http://www.superantispyware.com/definitions.html Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware (free version) http://www.malwarebytes.org/index.php If you can˙t download def. files, you can get them he http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php SpywareBlaster (free) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html Windows Firewall (free)- w2k users can get sygate (old free version) http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=sygate Firefox with AdBlock/NoScript/WOT installed (free), set to ´defaultˇ browser http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ AdBlock https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 NoScript https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 WOT https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...?q=WOT&cat=all MVPS Hosts file (free) http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Thunderbird for e-mail (free), set to ´defaultˇ e-mail http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ Turn off un-needed Windows Services http://www.jasonn.com/turning_off_un..._on_windows_xp Update Java (delete old versions before update) http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp Buy a router w/built-in firewall (under $50) More things to help keep your system lean and mean Decrapify your PC http://pcdecrapifier.com/download Remove Adobe Acrobat Reader and use Foxit Reader http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/ CrapCleaner http://www.ccleaner.com/ JKDefrag http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/ ***************end canned response******************** max -- Virus Removal http://max.shplink.com/removal.html Keep Clean http://max.shplink.com/keepingclean.html Change nomail.afraid.org to gmail.com to reply by email. nomail.afraid.org is specifically setup for use in USENET |
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"Carl" wrote: Leonard Grey wrote: "...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Hi Leonard - I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games. I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows Components Wizard. I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and finished with the message that I had successfully completed the Wizards Component Wizard. However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of the games, the game opens. It's still there. See anything I am going wrong??? Again, many thanks for your help and patience. Carl Hello, I beleive the first six games are internet links to on-line games. In the correct area but I beleive you should uncheck not check. Click on the "details" button after you highlight games, another page will open with a list of each game, uncheck each game then "ok". Then uncheck "games" then ok. Continue to use "ok" until you clear out of Windows Components. Please excuse my butting in, hope you do not mind. take care. beamish. |
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"Carl" wrote: Leonard Grey wrote: "...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Hi Leonard - I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games. I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows Components Wizard. I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and finished with the message that I had successfully completed the Wizards Component Wizard. However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of the games, the game opens. It's still there. See anything I am going wrong??? Again, many thanks for your help and patience. Carl Hello, I beleive the first six games are internet links to on-line games. In the correct area but I beleive you should uncheck not check. Click on the "details" button after you highlight games, another page will open with a list of each game, uncheck each game then "ok". Then uncheck "games" then ok. Continue to use "ok" until you clear out of Windows Components. Please excuse my butting in, hope you do not mind. take care. beamish. |
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On Jan 24, 10:29*am, Leonard Grey wrote:
What are the names of these games? AFAIK Windows XP does not include that many games. Under games are listed; FreeCell Hearts Internet Backgammon Internet Checkers Internet Hearts Internet Reversi Internet Spades Minesweeper Pinball Solitaire Spider Solitaire Carl Carl |
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On Jan 24, 10:29*am, Leonard Grey wrote:
What are the names of these games? AFAIK Windows XP does not include that many games. Under games are listed; FreeCell Hearts Internet Backgammon Internet Checkers Internet Hearts Internet Reversi Internet Spades Minesweeper Pinball Solitaire Spider Solitaire Carl Carl |
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On Jan 24, 11:14*am, 7919 wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:07 -0800 (PST), Carl, in , after much thought, came up with this jewel: WOW! What a gold mine of sites to bookmark and checkout. Thank you very much for those. Carl |
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On Jan 24, 11:14*am, 7919 wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:07 -0800 (PST), Carl, in , after much thought, came up with this jewel: WOW! What a gold mine of sites to bookmark and checkout. Thank you very much for those. Carl |
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On Jan 24, 4:46*pm, beamish wrote:
"Carl" wrote: Leonard Grey wrote: "...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs * Add/Remove Windows Components. Hi Leonard - I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games. I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows Components Wizard. I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and finished with the message that I had successfully completed the Wizards Component Wizard. However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of the games, the game opens. It's still there. See anything I am going wrong??? Again, many thanks for your help and patience. Carl Hello, I beleive the first six games are internet links to on-line games. In the correct area but I beleive you should uncheck not check. Click on the "details" button after you highlight games, another page will open with a list of each game, uncheck each game then "ok". Then uncheck "games" then ok. Continue to use "ok" until you clear out of Windows Components. Please excuse my butting in, hope you do not mind. take care. beamish. Hmmm. There are some /very/ fundamental differences between Windows and Macs that are /most/ puzzling to an old brain like mine. You were right, Beamish, I had to /uncheck/ those boxes, not check them. In the Mac OS, you would have had to /check/ them in a situation such as that. The only one that hasn't been deleted is Pinball. It did not show up in the list proferred in Add/Remove tool Thanks for the help, Carl |
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On Jan 24, 4:46*pm, beamish wrote:
"Carl" wrote: Leonard Grey wrote: "...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs * Add/Remove Windows Components. Hi Leonard - I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games. I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows Components Wizard. I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and finished with the message that I had successfully completed the Wizards Component Wizard. However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of the games, the game opens. It's still there. See anything I am going wrong??? Again, many thanks for your help and patience. Carl Hello, I beleive the first six games are internet links to on-line games. In the correct area but I beleive you should uncheck not check. Click on the "details" button after you highlight games, another page will open with a list of each game, uncheck each game then "ok". Then uncheck "games" then ok. Continue to use "ok" until you clear out of Windows Components. Please excuse my butting in, hope you do not mind. take care. beamish. Hmmm. There are some /very/ fundamental differences between Windows and Macs that are /most/ puzzling to an old brain like mine. You were right, Beamish, I had to /uncheck/ those boxes, not check them. In the Mac OS, you would have had to /check/ them in a situation such as that. The only one that hasn't been deleted is Pinball. It did not show up in the list proferred in Add/Remove tool Thanks for the help, Carl |
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