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Old April 26th 09, 05:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB
camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer.
When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in
a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port
as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware
present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either
case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks.

Gene
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Old April 26th 09, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

Gene,
My experience is that XP assigns the device to a particular USB port when
first installed. If the device is moved, or another device is placed in the
same USB port, XP must reassign the Port to the new device, and will run the
found hardware wizard. It will find the installed drivers for that device
and reassign the port with those drivers. Or ask for driver installation, if
this is the first time the device is connected to the PC. Sometimes that
takes a few minutes after boot-up.

Sometimes when the USB device is plugged in, a Safely Remove Hardware icon
will appear in the system tray. You need to double click that first, and
turn off the device before removing it the cable attached to the Port. This
will disassociate the device from the port. Important when using digital
cameras, and other devices that frequently get disconnected.

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...
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB
camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer.
When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in
a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port
as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware
present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either
case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks.

Gene


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Old April 26th 09, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Rich/rerat
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

Gene,
My experience is that XP assigns the device to a particular USB port when
first installed. If the device is moved, or another device is placed in the
same USB port, XP must reassign the Port to the new device, and will run the
found hardware wizard. It will find the installed drivers for that device
and reassign the port with those drivers. Or ask for driver installation, if
this is the first time the device is connected to the PC. Sometimes that
takes a few minutes after boot-up.

Sometimes when the USB device is plugged in, a Safely Remove Hardware icon
will appear in the system tray. You need to double click that first, and
turn off the device before removing it the cable attached to the Port. This
will disassociate the device from the port. Important when using digital
cameras, and other devices that frequently get disconnected.

--
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wrote in message
...
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB
camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer.
When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in
a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port
as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware
present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either
case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks.

Gene


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Old April 26th 09, 07:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Jose
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

On Apr 26, 12:55*pm, wrote:
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB
camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer.
When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. *But when I plug in
a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port
as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware
present. *Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either
case, why the hardware message? *I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks.

Gene


That is certainly possible, but tell us exactly what you are
seeing... What are the choices offered? How do you make it go away.

Just what is a USB extension cable? Is that the same as the camera
transfer cable?

You only see this when XP reboots? You said "on startup"

The convenience cable (I have one also) is plugged in and there is
nothing on the other end of it - just the cable, right?

Is it just a USB extension cable or also your camera cable or are they
one in the same?

Close all windows and on the desktop right click My Computer,
Properties, Hardware, Device Manager (wait)... be sure the top icon
(your computer) is expanded by clicking the + next to it. Do you see
an yellow question marks or red Xs and if you do, next to what.

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Old April 26th 09, 07:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Jose
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

On Apr 26, 12:55*pm, wrote:
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB
camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer.
When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. *But when I plug in
a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port
as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware
present. *Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either
case, why the hardware message? *I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks.

Gene


That is certainly possible, but tell us exactly what you are
seeing... What are the choices offered? How do you make it go away.

Just what is a USB extension cable? Is that the same as the camera
transfer cable?

You only see this when XP reboots? You said "on startup"

The convenience cable (I have one also) is plugged in and there is
nothing on the other end of it - just the cable, right?

Is it just a USB extension cable or also your camera cable or are they
one in the same?

Close all windows and on the desktop right click My Computer,
Properties, Hardware, Device Manager (wait)... be sure the top icon
(your computer) is expanded by clicking the + next to it. Do you see
an yellow question marks or red Xs and if you do, next to what.

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Old April 26th 09, 08:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

Hi Gene,
USB extension cables are not very well made on the whole.
Their quality of manufacture varies greatly. I have has so many 'duff' ones
I have given up on them. This could be the cause that the cable is, in
effect, creating a 'short circuit' and that is why your system thinks there
is a device attached. Change the extension lead. Or, to test the theory,
try it without the exertion lead. That is to say: is this effect still seen
if you have the camera lead plugged in without the extension lead between?

--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


wrote in message
...
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB
camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer.
When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in
a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port
as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware
present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either
case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks.

Gene



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Old April 26th 09, 08:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Tim Meddick
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

Hi Gene,
USB extension cables are not very well made on the whole.
Their quality of manufacture varies greatly. I have has so many 'duff' ones
I have given up on them. This could be the cause that the cable is, in
effect, creating a 'short circuit' and that is why your system thinks there
is a device attached. Change the extension lead. Or, to test the theory,
try it without the exertion lead. That is to say: is this effect still seen
if you have the camera lead plugged in without the extension lead between?

--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


wrote in message
...
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB
camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer.
When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in
a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port
as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware
present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either
case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks.

Gene



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Old April 27th 09, 12:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

wrote:

Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer
under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port
cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no
camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up).
On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or
AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there.

Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a
male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are
quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to
a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS
tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with
the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and
nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up,
as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then
let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I
unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port.
Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time.

My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two
cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New
Hardware notice from coming up each time?

Gene
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Old April 27th 09, 12:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

wrote:

Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer
under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port
cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no
camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up).
On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or
AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there.

Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a
male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are
quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to
a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS
tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with
the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and
nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up,
as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then
let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I
unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port.
Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time.

My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two
cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New
Hardware notice from coming up each time?

Gene
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Old April 27th 09, 12:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Tim Meddick
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an
(any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device
attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is
short-circuiting! There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable.

--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


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wrote:

Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer
under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port
cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no
camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up).
On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or
AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there.

Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a
male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are
quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to
a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS
tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with
the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and
nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up,
as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then
let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I
unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port.
Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time.

My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two
cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New
Hardware notice from coming up each time?

Gene



  #11  
Old April 27th 09, 12:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Tim Meddick
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Posts: 1,995
Default USB cable and new hardware detection

The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an
(any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device
attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is
short-circuiting! There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable.

--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


wrote in message
...
wrote:

Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer
under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port
cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no
camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up).
On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or
AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there.

Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a
male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are
quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to
a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS
tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with
the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and
nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up,
as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then
let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I
unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port.
Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time.

My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two
cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New
Hardware notice from coming up each time?

Gene



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Old April 27th 09, 02:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

"Tim Meddick" wrote:

The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an
(any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device
attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is
short-circuiting! There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable.


Actually, that's two cables, one from Monoprice and the other part of
a USB capture device. Shorted? Possible but improbable. Given your
thought on my last thread that my browser is incapable of redirection -
are there really any that can't? - I'll leave the floor open.

Gene


--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


wrote in message
...
wrote:

Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer
under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port
cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no
camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up).
On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or
AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there.

Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a
male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are
quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to
a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS
tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with
the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and
nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up,
as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then
let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I
unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port.
Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time.

My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two
cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New
Hardware notice from coming up each time?

Gene



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Old April 27th 09, 02:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
No_Name
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

"Tim Meddick" wrote:

The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an
(any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device
attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is
short-circuiting! There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable.


Actually, that's two cables, one from Monoprice and the other part of
a USB capture device. Shorted? Possible but improbable. Given your
thought on my last thread that my browser is incapable of redirection -
are there really any that can't? - I'll leave the floor open.

Gene


--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


wrote in message
...
wrote:

Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer
under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port
cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no
camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up).
On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or
AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there.

Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a
male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are
quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to
a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS
tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with
the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and
nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up,
as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then
let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I
unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port.
Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time.

My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two
cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New
Hardware notice from coming up each time?

Gene



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Old April 27th 09, 02:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Jose
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

On Apr 26, 9:02*pm, wrote:
"Tim Meddick" wrote:
The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an
(any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device
attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is
short-circuiting! *There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable.


Actually, that's two cables, one from Monoprice and the other part of
a USB capture device. *Shorted? *Possible but improbable. Given your
thought on my last thread that my browser is incapable of redirection -
are there really any that can't? - I'll leave the floor open.

Gene



--


Cheers, * *Tim Meddick, * *Peckham, London.


wrote in message
...
wrote:


Let me try that again. *The USB ports are on the back of the computer
under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port
cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. *There's no
camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up).
On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or
AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there.


Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a
male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are
quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to
a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS
tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with
the cable. *On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and
nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up,
as well as the smaller one in the Tray. *I cancel out of both and then
let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I
unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port.
Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. *Every time.


My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two
cables? *2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New
Hardware notice from coming up each time?


Gene


Sounds to me like the problem follows the cable.

Do you have a similar cable to the suspect cable you can try?

Do you have another computer you can plug the suspect cable into to
see what happens?
  #15  
Old April 27th 09, 02:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Jose
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Default USB cable and new hardware detection

On Apr 26, 9:02*pm, wrote:
"Tim Meddick" wrote:
The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an
(any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device
attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is
short-circuiting! *There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable.


Actually, that's two cables, one from Monoprice and the other part of
a USB capture device. *Shorted? *Possible but improbable. Given your
thought on my last thread that my browser is incapable of redirection -
are there really any that can't? - I'll leave the floor open.

Gene



--


Cheers, * *Tim Meddick, * *Peckham, London.


wrote in message
...
wrote:


Let me try that again. *The USB ports are on the back of the computer
under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port
cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. *There's no
camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up).
On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or
AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there.


Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a
male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are
quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to
a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS
tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with
the cable. *On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and
nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up,
as well as the smaller one in the Tray. *I cancel out of both and then
let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I
unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port.
Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. *Every time.


My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two
cables? *2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New
Hardware notice from coming up each time?


Gene


Sounds to me like the problem follows the cable.

Do you have a similar cable to the suspect cable you can try?

Do you have another computer you can plug the suspect cable into to
see what happens?
 




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