Recommendations on a new printer

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:21:23 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:41:03 -0400, Dick wrote:

+1 on the Brother laser printer. I have a Brother 2270DW laser that I
use as a network printer. It is very linux friendly: both wired and
wireless. Best part is that the toner cartridges are the cheapest
around, ~$55. I say you can't go wrong with Brother.

My Xerox WorkCentre 6015NI uses 4 toner cartridges, CMYK. In April of
this year I bought an 8-pack, two of each color, for $49.99.



That's an outstandingly good price! Are they always that cheap, or was
this a special sale?

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 08:08:11 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:21:23 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:41:03 -0400, Dick wrote:

+1 on the Brother laser printer. I have a Brother 2270DW laser that I
use as a network printer. It is very linux friendly: both wired and
wireless. Best part is that the toner cartridges are the cheapest
around, ~$55. I say you can't go wrong with Brother.

My Xerox WorkCentre 6015NI uses 4 toner cartridges, CMYK. In April of
this year I bought an 8-pack, two of each color, for $49.99.



That's an outstandingly good price! Are they always that cheap, or was
this a special sale?


I just checked on Amazon.com. The printer sells for only $259, which
sounds very good, but a pack of four cartridges (one of each color) is
$333!

Were the cartridges you bought perhaps third-party rather than Xerox?

In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:02:26 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 10/14/2016 09:30 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
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I tried refilling my own inkjet cartridges, but it was a mess and a
royal pain in the butt.

I have tried refilling ink cartridges. It never went well.


Same here!
For high use (and possibly even other use), I think the only way to
use an inkjet is one of the continuous-feed systems.
Laser toner cartridges can also be refilled; there are plenty of
guides out there on how to do so. However, I've never actually spoken
to anyone who has done so, so I don't know how easy/messy/successful
it is.

There were a few inkjets in the past, you could
get a tank system for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_ink_system

This company http://www.continuous-ink-system.co.uk/ seems to do them
for a wide range of makes and models (and I'm sure there are plenty of
other companies, both here in the UK and elsewhere, unless the printer
companies have found some legal way of blocking them).

We used to buy refilled toner cartridges at work,
and returned the cartridges to the refiller. That
wasn't dirt cheap, but it was a bit cheaper. There
was no chipping system on the cartridges.

Paul

Some of the guides I've read involve a somewhat alarming circular iron
you heat up, to make a hole in the cartridge to refill them through (and
assorted ways of sealing the hole afterwards). Hence my
curiosity/interest in hearing from anyone who has actually done it.

Cartridges that also include the drum may use a drum that doesn't last
as long as the ones that are built into the printer.
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On 10/12/2016 04:12 PM, Farmer wrote:


I am looking to buy a new HP Office Jet Pro anyone have a model
recommendation or maybe a different make? Its just for my home office
and it has to be wireless


I have a HP OfficeJet Pro 8500A that I got from my sister for free. She
was throwing it away. The control panel only half worked. I got a
replacement on Ebay for $9.00 with free shipping. I noticed a lot of
these models for sale used for around $25 to $50 bucks.

Its the greatest printer I have ever owned. It does everything and is
wireless/USB/Ethernet whatever and works with MACS, PCs, Linux, Iphones,
and Android phones.


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On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 08:08:11 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:21:23 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:41:03 -0400, Dick wrote:

+1 on the Brother laser printer. I have a Brother 2270DW laser that I
use as a network printer. It is very linux friendly: both wired and
wireless. Best part is that the toner cartridges are the cheapest
around, ~$55. I say you can't go wrong with Brother.

My Xerox WorkCentre 6015NI uses 4 toner cartridges, CMYK. In April of
this year I bought an 8-pack, two of each color, for $49.99.



That's an outstandingly good price! Are they always that cheap, or was
this a special sale?

I'm sure the biggest factor is that they aren't Xerox-branded. They came
from an outfit (via Amazon) called Speedy Inks. Highly recommended.

--

Char Jackson

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:26:09 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2016-10-14 22:21, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:41:03 -0400, Dick wrote:

+1 on the Brother laser printer. I have a Brother 2270DW laser that I
use as a network printer. It is very linux friendly: both wired and
wireless. Best part is that the toner cartridges are the cheapest
around, ~$55. I say you can't go wrong with Brother.

My Xerox WorkCentre 6015NI uses 4 toner cartridges, CMYK. In April of
this year I bought an 8-pack, two of each color, for $49.99.

I decide a few years ago that two printers were cheaper than one. I've
not regretted it. Cost of ownership is a more important calculation than
cost of acquisition. Both are all-in-ones, very handy for copying (the
alternative would be scan -- process -- print).

Brother DP-7040, b/w laser, using high-yield toner cartridges.
Canon Pixma MG5220 5-colour inkjet for colour (excellent).
Canon 9000F II scanner (excellent)

Around my house, we don't print nearly often enough to keep an ink jet
wet and ready, so a laser was the obvious answer. Since we've become
accustomed to color prints, since about 1986, it naturally had to be a
color laser and not b/w. Fortunately, laser prices have come down
remarkably over the years. I bought an Okidata b/w laser in 1991 for
about $700. Today, a similar b/w unit would be about $79, but I don't
see the point in buying b/w. Color lasers print b/w just fine, when
asked to do so.

--

Char Jackson

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 08:14:13 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 08:08:11 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:21:23 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:41:03 -0400, Dick wrote:

+1 on the Brother laser printer. I have a Brother 2270DW laser that I
use as a network printer. It is very linux friendly: both wired and
wireless. Best part is that the toner cartridges are the cheapest
around, ~$55. I say you can't go wrong with Brother.

My Xerox WorkCentre 6015NI uses 4 toner cartridges, CMYK. In April of
this year I bought an 8-pack, two of each color, for $49.99.



That's an outstandingly good price! Are they always that cheap, or was
this a special sale?


I just checked on Amazon.com. The printer sells for only $259, which
sounds very good, but a pack of four cartridges (one of each color) is
$333!

Were the cartridges you bought perhaps third-party rather than Xerox?

Absolutely! I would *never* buy branded toner. Or ink, for that matter,
when I had ink jet printers.

--

Char Jackson

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 02:34:17 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 08:14:13 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 08:08:11 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:21:23 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

My Xerox WorkCentre 6015NI uses 4 toner cartridges, CMYK. In April of
this year I bought an 8-pack, two of each color, for $49.99.



That's an outstandingly good price! Are they always that cheap, or was
this a special sale?


I just checked on Amazon.com. The printer sells for only $259, which
sounds very good, but a pack of four cartridges (one of each color) is
$333!

Were the cartridges you bought perhaps third-party rather than Xerox?

Absolutely! I would *never* buy branded toner. Or ink, for that matter,
when I had ink jet printers.


As I suspected.

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 02:28:03 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 08:08:11 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:21:23 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:41:03 -0400, Dick wrote:

+1 on the Brother laser printer. I have a Brother 2270DW laser that I
use as a network printer. It is very linux friendly: both wired and
wireless. Best part is that the toner cartridges are the cheapest
around, ~$55. I say you can't go wrong with Brother.

My Xerox WorkCentre 6015NI uses 4 toner cartridges, CMYK. In April of
this year I bought an 8-pack, two of each color, for $49.99.



That's an outstandingly good price! Are they always that cheap, or was
this a special sale?

I'm sure the biggest factor is that they aren't Xerox-branded. They came
from an outfit (via Amazon) called Speedy Inks. Highly recommended.


Thanks very much. I'll make a note of the printer model and Speedy Ink
Inks to consider if I ever need to replace my Samsung.

On 15/10/16 20:22, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Some of the guides I've read involve a somewhat alarming circular iron
you heat up, to make a hole in the cartridge to refill them through (and
assorted ways of sealing the hole afterwards). Hence my
curiosity/interest in hearing from anyone who has actually done it.

Cartridges that also include the drum may use a drum that doesn't last
as long as the ones that are built into the printer.

I had a small Brother laser printer which worked well for many years and
then went south. I replaced it with a similar-sized Samsung. That worked
well until the cut-down cartridge it came with (700 vs 1500 pages for a
standard cartridge IIRC) started to run out. I had a spare cartridge for
the Brother so cut a hole in it and poured some of the toner through a
funnel into an access hole in the Samsung cartridge. Although the
Samsung cartridge itself wasn't chipped, the printer itself had an
onboard page counter chip. But I was able to short-circuit a couple of
the pins to reset it. Fortunately, I hadn't updated the Samsung driver
which would have prevented the pin short-circuit fix.

The "hybrid" cartridge worked very well, and continues to do so,
although most of my printing now is of 15 x 10cm photos using an Epson
All-in-one inkjet (I have an old Canon Pixma, which still performs
beautifully under Win7, but Canon don't support Linux, hence the need to
buy a non-Canon inkjet).

--

Jeff

On 10/16/2016 2:32 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:26:09 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2016-10-14 22:21, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:41:03 -0400, Dick wrote:

+1 on the Brother laser printer. I have a Brother 2270DW laser that I
use as a network printer. It is very linux friendly: both wired and
wireless. Best part is that the toner cartridges are the cheapest
around, ~$55. I say you can't go wrong with Brother.

My Xerox WorkCentre 6015NI uses 4 toner cartridges, CMYK. In April of
this year I bought an 8-pack, two of each color, for $49.99.

I decide a few years ago that two printers were cheaper than one. I've
not regretted it. Cost of ownership is a more important calculation than
cost of acquisition. Both are all-in-ones, very handy for copying (the
alternative would be scan -- process -- print).

Brother DP-7040, b/w laser, using high-yield toner cartridges.
Canon Pixma MG5220 5-colour inkjet for colour (excellent).
Canon 9000F II scanner (excellent)

Around my house, we don't print nearly often enough to keep an ink jet
wet and ready, so a laser was the obvious answer. Since we've become
accustomed to color prints, since about 1986, it naturally had to be a
color laser and not b/w. Fortunately, laser prices have come down
remarkably over the years. I bought an Okidata b/w laser in 1991 for
about $700. Today, a similar b/w unit would be about $79, but I don't
see the point in buying b/w. Color lasers print b/w just fine, when
asked to do so.

I got tired of paying for SkyHi priced ink about 8 years ago so I
bought an Okidata c5150n Color Laser, This has been the best printer
investment I ever made. It is not quite Photo quality but very close, I
buy New toner carts not remans or refills made by Media Sciences at
about $145.00 for a full set of 4, OEM carts are too expensive at
$175.00 each, these are 5000 page carts and a set lasts me about 2
years. Never again an Inkjet for me.

Rene

On 10/12/2016 5:12 PM, Farmer wrote:


I am looking to buy a new HP Office Jet Pro anyone have a model
recommendation or maybe a different make? Its just for my home office
and it has to be wireless



I have a Brother inkjet "all in one". Works great.
I have gotten 3 color and one large black ink cartridge for under $14
total from China at Aliexpress.com, with free shipping to the U.S.
(LC-101, LC-103). Hard to believe, but the cartridges work perfectly
and arrived here in about 2 weeks. I see they have vendors of all kinds
of compatible toner also, check the prices.

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:14:48 -0400, al wrote:

On 10/12/2016 5:12 PM, Farmer wrote:


I am looking to buy a new HP Office Jet Pro anyone have a model
recommendation or maybe a different make? Its just for my home office
and it has to be wireless



I have a Brother inkjet "all in one". Works great.
I have gotten 3 color and one large black ink cartridge for under $14
total from China at Aliexpress.com, with free shipping to the U.S.
(LC-101, LC-103). Hard to believe, but the cartridges work perfectly
and arrived here in about 2 weeks. I see they have vendors of all kinds
of compatible toner also, check the prices.

Same here, a Brother MFC-J450DW, about 2 years old.
Works GREAT, way better on ink than I expected or

got from my Canons and Epsons previously, AND
the non-branded from Amazon are substantially
cheaper, and have worked just fine. A set of 4
each of 3 colors ran less than $18.
3 pack of black ran half that.
And those are the high capacity versions.








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On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:41:03 -0400, Dick wrote:

+1 on the Brother laser printer. I have a Brother 2270DW laser that I
use as a network printer. It is very linux friendly: both wired and
wireless. Best part is that the toner cartridges are the cheapest
around, ~$55. I say you can't go wrong with Brother.

I also have a 2270DW, it is the best printer that I have ever had. Works
flawlessly with my Centos linux, windows, the entire thing. I buy off-
brand refills/drums from Amazon, and have never had one problem.



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