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  #31  
Old February 21st 05, 07:59 PM
David Candy
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MS is complicit in stealing from it's customers. Mostly because they =
don't care.

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:33:42 +0100, Alias wrote:

This page says nothing about a licence=20
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http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...555&cat=3D395=
4&type=3D19&dept=3D3944&path=3D0%3A3944%3A3951%3A3 954&xsell=3D1957319
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I rest my case. How many Walmart clerks explain anything but "that =

will be=20
$119.98. please"?

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So, I don't understand you - you find an instance where WalMart, like
other vendors is not providing full disclosure about a product that it
sells, where the product manufacturer does provide this information, =

and
you still want to slam the Manufacturer? Why are you not going after
WalMart, Sears, and the places that market the manufacturers product
incorrectly?
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You've clearly pointed out a flaw in the sales model of many =

companies,
but not in Microsofts.
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  #32  
Old February 21st 05, 08:00 PM
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"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:46:03 +1100, wrote:

Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.


Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to the
information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
service, except for maybe France - they have some other country provide
the service for them :-)


Bull****. There's no death penalty in any of the EU country's penal code.

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  #33  
Old February 21st 05, 08:02 PM
Alias
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"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:47:43 -0500, Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) wrote:

What Alias is getting at is that all web sites, and stores, sell you
software. Don't they all have software departments, T.V. departments,
appliance departments etc.

Yet after they have sold you the "software", they try to tell you that
you
have bought a license. Well, people DID NOT buy it in the license
department - did they?


And the simple fact is that the store that sold it didn't provide full
disclosure while MS does clearly provide it. Maybe you should be
complaining to the stores since they are the ones not providing the
information to the customers - MS clearly makes this information available
to any that ask/look for it.


Microsoft sells direct? Since when? Those stores are representing Microsoft
and Microsoft doesn't do anything to correct them. It's called scamming.

Alias


  #34  
Old February 21st 05, 08:03 PM
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Australia doesn't. It is prohibited by law after ASIS kidnapped a hotel =
of Australians in melbourne as a training exercise. The police weren't =
impressed with people running around melbourne with guns kidnapping =
people at random. The people kidnapped weren't impressed either. Noone =
was so they lost the power to conduct covert missions and can only spy.

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:46:03 +1100, wrote:

Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.

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Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to =

the
information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
service, except for maybe France - they have some other country =

provide
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  #35  
Old February 21st 05, 08:05 PM
David Candy
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The contract is between you and the store. MS is not involved. You can't =
bind third parties in contracts.

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:47:43 -0500, Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) wrote:

What Alias is getting at is that all web sites, and stores, sell you=20
software. Don't they all have software departments, T.V. departments, =


appliance departments etc.
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Yet after they have sold you the "software", they try to tell you =

that you=20
have bought a license. Well, people DID NOT buy it in the license=20
department - did they?

=20
And the simple fact is that the store that sold it didn't provide full
disclosure while MS does clearly provide it. Maybe you should be
complaining to the stores since they are the ones not providing the
information to the customers - MS clearly makes this information =

available
to any that ask/look for it.
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  #36  
Old February 21st 05, 08:09 PM
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Colin Barnhorst wrote:
You were sold the licenses, not the software.


That's what is said in the EULA, AFTER the fact of the sale of a copy of
software had already taken place.

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  #37  
Old February 21st 05, 08:10 PM
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Bruce Chambers wrote:
Colin Barnhorst wrote:
You were sold the licenses, not the software.



Now, Colin, don't try to confuse Kurt with the facts. His mind is
made up.


MS's EULA claim is legally unsubstantiated. That is the only fact.

http://microscum.com/bruce/

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  #38  
Old February 21st 05, 08:11 PM
David Candy
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We are not america where life is cheap.

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:03:28 +1100, wrote:
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Australia doesn't. It is prohibited by law after ASIS kidnapped a =

hotel
of Australians in melbourne as a training exercise. The police =

weren't
impressed with people running around melbourne with guns kidnapping
people at random. The people kidnapped weren't impressed either. =

Noone
was so they lost the power to conduct covert missions and can only =

spy.
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And if you believe that Oz doesn't take people out you're living in a
dream world and failing to face reality.
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  #39  
Old February 21st 05, 08:11 PM
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Colin Barnhorst wrote:
It's so hard to resist...


Yes, spreading FUD is very hard for you MicroSycophants to resist.

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  #40  
Old February 21st 05, 08:13 PM
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:08:18 +0100, Alias wrote:

"Leythos" wrote in message
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Spain sanctions murder/eliminations all the time, you just don't see it
because you don't belong to the covert groups that are involved in it.


Tell that to José Barrionuevo and Rafael Vera who are doing time for
heading
up killing squads to kill ETA members.


Just because someone gets busted for a failed mission that had to have a
fall guy, it doesn't mean that it's not still happening. That example of
yours just proves the point - there are sanctioned kills carried out by
governments all over the world, have been, and will continue to be.


Can you prove your assertions? Fact is the USA has state sanctioned murder
and has murdered many innocent people and they do it in public and are proud
of it.

Disgusting.

Alias


  #41  
Old February 21st 05, 08:15 PM
kurttrail
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Leythos wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:33:42 +0100, Alias wrote:

This page says nothing about a licence
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...&xsell=1957319

I rest my case. How many Walmart clerks explain anything but "that
will be $119.98. please"?


So, I don't understand you - you find an instance where WalMart, like
other vendors is not providing full disclosure about a product that it
sells, where the product manufacturer does provide this information,
and you still want to slam the Manufacturer? Why are you not going
after WalMart, Sears, and the places that market the manufacturers
product incorrectly?

You've clearly pointed out a flaw in the sales model of many
companies, but not in Microsofts.


Actually the deception is MS's by allowing the sale of copies of MS
software in Retail Stores, and then trying to rewrite history with a
post-sale shrink-wrap license.

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  #42  
Old February 21st 05, 08:17 PM
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kurttrail wrote:
I had a MVP nominate himself, so any MVP that wants or needs to be
inducted into the Microscum MVP Hall of Shame, please feel free to
drop me an email!

So without any further ado, the newest inductee to the Microscum MVP
Hall of Shame, by his own request, is:

Robert Moir - MicroMoron!
http://microscum.com/rmoir/

Congratulations Robert!


Finally an award to be proud of!

rob


  #43  
Old February 21st 05, 08:18 PM
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kurttrail wrote:
Colin Barnhorst wrote:

You were sold the licenses, not the software.



That's what is said in the EULA, AFTER the fact of the sale of a copy of
software had already taken place.



Don't forget to read the outside of the packaging, where it says the
same thing.


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  #44  
Old February 21st 05, 08:18 PM
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WHO LICENCES THE RESELLERS????

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:09:43 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
You were sold the licenses, not the software.


That's what is said in the EULA, AFTER the fact of the sale of a copy of
software had already taken place.


So go bitch to the software seller that didn't make this public
information available to the consumer - you can't blame MS for it, they DO
make it available to the public. Start going after the resellers of the
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  #45  
Old February 21st 05, 08:18 PM
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Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) wrote:
What Alias is getting at is that all web sites, and stores, sell you
software. Don't they all have software departments, T.V. departments,
appliance departments etc.

Yet after they have sold you the "software", they try to tell you
that you have bought a license. Well, people DID NOT buy it in the
license department - did they?

Based upon that fact, and that even Microsoft offers you software
downloads (not license downloads) I think I also am going to begin to
state that I OWN the "software". The license that was in the package
is ancillary to the fact of my purchase, and I don't really have to
even read it.
The software is mine, whether I have a license or not!


Just to clarify, you own your copy of software, MS owns the copyright to
the software.

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