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  #31  
Old July 19th 05, 03:07 PM
Shenan Stanley
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Husky wrote:
Interesting, how do you avoid the remind me NAG ?
Or for that matter, how do you get it to work past the 30 day grace
period allowed before needing to activate ?


They could have cracked it.. generated a false number (but working one.)..
Downloaded a volume license copy of Windows XP and used it.. Used one of
the many methods on the Internet for getting past activation...

Or..

More likely.. Mistook "registration" for "activation".

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  #32  
Old July 19th 05, 06:05 PM
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You can't. You need to activate Windows XP within
thirty days of installation.

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"Husky" wrote:

| Interesting, how do you avoid the remind me NAG ?
| Or for that matter, how do you get it to work past the 30 day grace period
| allowed before needing to activate ?

  #33  
Old July 19th 05, 08:15 PM
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:05:47 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
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You can't. You need to activate Windows XP within
thirty days of installation.


Guy says he does it with a registered version. I want to know how...

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Old July 19th 05, 08:46 PM
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"Guy" is full of beans....

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"Husky" wrote:

| Guy says he does it with a registered version. I want to know how...

  #35  
Old July 20th 05, 01:35 AM
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"" wrote:
"Guy" is full of beans....

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Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

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"Husky" wrote:

| Guy says he does it with a registered version. I want to
know how...


Hello, I havent been keeping track, but i use reset5.02 to disable the
activation, this dose only work upto service pack1, but i don’t
intend on upgrading to SP2, if it works, then why upgrade, lots of
compnays (infect the majority) still use windows 2000 with win 2k
servers, whats the point upgrading if it alredy works. Plus from past
experiance i have discovered that upgrading from one SP to another
causes general instability and anoyance, alot of the updates that MS
provide (including SP2) just have a feel good factor "I have all
updates... My PC must be secure". Obviusly this is not so, and as such
i am behind a hardware firewall and ontop of that run a personal
firewall (ZA Pro to be exact) along side spybot S & D and AntiVir
(compleat with automated internal update server), basicly i refer you
back to "if it works, why upgrade?"

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Old July 20th 05, 01:54 AM
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basicly i refer you back to "if it works, why upgrade?"

Sooner or later, you become obsolete.

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  #37  
Old July 20th 05, 04:59 AM
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Perhaps the same problems that cause instability in your computer are
related to your need to use such things as reset5.02.

"if it works, why upgrade?"
Perhaps it does work.
Or perhaps it seems to work but you can not see that it is broken.

Service Packs have not caused me any problems, but then I take care of my
computers so the Service Packs install smoothly.

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"Sparda" wrote in message
Hello, I havent been keeping track, but i use reset5.02 to disable the
activation, this dose only work upto service pack1, but i donâ?Tt
intend on upgrading to SP2, if it works, then why upgrade, lots of
compnays (infect the majority) still use windows 2000 with win 2k
servers, whats the point upgrading if it alredy works. Plus from past
experiance i have discovered that upgrading from one SP to another
causes general instability and anoyance, alot of the updates that MS
provide (including SP2) just have a feel good factor "I have all
updates... My PC must be secure". Obviusly this is not so, and as such
i am behind a hardware firewall and ontop of that run a personal
firewall (ZA Pro to be exact) along side spybot S & D and AntiVir
(compleat with automated internal update server), basicly i refer you
back to "if it works, why upgrade?"

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Old July 20th 05, 08:33 AM
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On 19 Jul 2005 20:35:36 -0400, Sparda wrote:

"" wrote:
"Guy" is full of beans....

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"Husky" wrote:

| Guy says he does it with a registered version. I want to
know how...


Hello, I havent been keeping track, but i use reset5.02 to disable the
activation, this dose only work upto service pack1, but i don’t
intend on upgrading to SP2, if it works, then why upgrade, lots of
compnays (infect the majority) still use windows 2000 with win 2k
servers, whats the point upgrading if it alredy works. Plus from past
experiance i have discovered that upgrading from one SP to another
causes general instability and anoyance, alot of the updates that MS
provide (including SP2) just have a feel good factor "I have all
updates... My PC must be secure". Obviusly this is not so, and as such
i am behind a hardware firewall and ontop of that run a personal
firewall (ZA Pro to be exact) along side spybot S & D and AntiVir
(compleat with automated internal update server), basicly i refer you
back to "if it works, why upgrade?"


Why upgrade from win 3.01 ? Because you'll get trampled in the advancing
technology is why if you don't..
And SP2 is a big improvement.
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  #39  
Old July 23rd 05, 12:35 AM
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"" wrote:
basicly i refer you back to "if it works, why upgrade?"


Sooner or later, you become obsolete.

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It dose take a long time for a OS to become obsolete, for example you
can (if you want) play Grand Theft Auto 3 or vice city on windows 98.
And as i said most companys still use windows 2000 with win 2k
servers, this is probably due to cost benifit analysys showing that
the cost vastly out wighs the benifit. From microsofts point of view
windows 2000 went obsolete a few months ago (they officaly stoped
providing support) how ever i can safly say it will be a year or 2
after long horns release that win 2003 domain (with ither xp or long
horn clints) will out wight win 2000, as such software vendors will be
obliged to make there software compatible with as many versions of
windows as posible (probably from 2000 up). But thats the point any
way, you only upgade when it no longer works, which as i have said
will be several years from now.

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Old July 23rd 05, 12:35 AM
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"" wrote:
On 19 Jul 2005 20:35:36 -0400, Sparda
wrote:

"" wrote:
"Guy" is full of beans....

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"Husky" wrote:

| Guy says he does it with a registered version. I want to
know how...


Hello, I havent been keeping track, but i use reset5.02 to

disable the
activation, this dose only work upto service pack1, but i

don’t
intend on upgrading to SP2, if it works, then why upgrade,

lots of
compnays (infect the majority) still use windows 2000 with

win 2k
servers, whats the point upgrading if it alredy works. Plus

from past
experiance i have discovered that upgrading from one SP to

another
causes general instability and anoyance, alot of the updates

that MS
provide (including SP2) just have a feel good factor "I have

all
updates... My PC must be secure". Obviusly this is not so,

and as such
i am behind a hardware firewall and ontop of that run a

personal
firewall (ZA Pro to be exact) along side spybot S & D and

AntiVir
(compleat with automated internal update server), basicly i

refer you
back to "if it works, why upgrade?"


Why upgrade from win 3.01 ? Because you'll get trampled in the
advancing
technology is why if you don't..
And SP2 is a big improvement.
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Service Pack 2 is a big improvment on Win 3.01? I dare say it is, but
there igo agian been pedantic. Obviusly win 3.01 can be said not to
work becasue it wouldnt not do what i requier, which is play DirecX 9
games. You may now wonder why I use XP over 98 or even XP over 2000,
well, im not sure why i use xp over 2000, there is no reason why i
should (guess this gose back to most companys using win 2000) I could
do every thing I wanted to do on windows 2000, the reasons for xp over
98 are fairly obviuse, 1. More stable 2. NTFS support 3. Back ground
services act more like deamons 4. Some recent games (such as san
andras) wont work on 98. What do you mean service pack instalments go
smoothly? of course they apar to install smoothly, untill you
disccover your printer prints all letters as question marks and
windows thinks you have DirecX 7 installed.

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Old July 23rd 05, 02:33 AM
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Shenan wrote:
Sooner or later, you become obsolete.


Sparda wrote:
It dose take a long time for a OS to become obsolete, for example you
can (if you want) play Grand Theft Auto 3 or vice city on windows 98.
And as i said most companys still use windows 2000 with win 2k
servers, this is probably due to cost benifit analysys showing that
the cost vastly out wighs the benifit. From microsofts point of view
windows 2000 went obsolete a few months ago (they officaly stoped
providing support) how ever i can safly say it will be a year or 2
after long horns release that win 2003 domain (with ither xp or long
horn clints) will out wight win 2000, as such software vendors will be
obliged to make there software compatible with as many versions of
windows as posible (probably from 2000 up). But thats the point any
way, you only upgade when it no longer works, which as i have said
will be several years from now.


As I said.. "Sooner or later.."

I know of places with NT 4.0 servers and Windows 98 workstations - not
usually by choice, but by financial limitation (not enough money for the
hardware upgrade, not enough money for the necessary software
upgrade/modification.)

In technology, life of an OS seems to be about 10-15 years ... tops. After
that, you "have to upgrade". However, usually - those who only upgrade at
that point don't have to upgrade anymore - as their services have also
lapsed into obsolescence.

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  #42  
Old July 23rd 05, 07:17 AM
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Carey has forgotten more about Activation than you ever knew about Windows.
Most of the items you talk about having replaced have nothing to do with
activation. Go to the Microsoft.com website and search on "XP Activation."
How activation works is mostly public information which you can read at your
leisure.

"Husky" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:35:00 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
wrote:

There is no limit to the number of times you can activate
Windows XP installed on the same computer. If you are
unable to activate via the internet, then select the alternative
option to "activate by phone".

How to activate Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307890


If you haven't upgraded your machine often enough, or re-installed the OS
for
whatever reason, and activated the MS liar software a minimum of 25 times,
you
don't know what you're talking about.

The software that calls you liar and thief starts every time you run the
machine.

I replaced wheel mice maybe 5-6 times. each one triggering something in
the
liar monitor. I didn't bother to track it because activation took less
than a
minute. Now every time something blows up and the liar software tells you
to
reactivate, it's going to be a minimum of one hour listening to a machine
that
can't help you, then handed off to someone where your language is a 2nd
language to them assuming they can read the numbers correctly the 1st few
times.
I guess they assumed the numbers they threw out could be argued as your
fault,
assuming you hadn't written them down as they were said.

From now on every time this machine gets the urge, it's back to the same
endless garbage on EVERY activation until I do switch to a BETTER OS..
Where
are you Amiga ??????????

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  #43  
Old October 14th 05, 10:39 PM
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Why should you have to 'ACTIVATE' something you've already paid for more than
once ?


Because you don't own your copy of the software. Yes you have the
software on a CD that is in your possession. But you do not own the
software. activation gives you permission to use the software that is
owned by MS. not by you.


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Old October 14th 05, 10:46 PM
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Although I legally own my copy of XP, i chose not to activate windows,
living in England and not the US or any other country, it is perfectly
legal to by pass the windows activation, I prefer my anonymity, the
less information I send to Microsoft, the better, plus I can use this
copy of XP on many different PC (obviously not at the same time :P)


I'm sure you didn't mean it exactly. But no. Legally you DO NOT own
your copy of XP. Rather, if you purchased the software the legally you
have been authorized use of the software. About the only thing you can
say you own is the actual CD. Not the data on it. I've always found
it rather funny when I read about kooks who don't want to send MS or
another company info about their PC when no personal info is sent and
when such methods DO NOT track piracy.

You see, if you choose not to send reports when errors happen or PC
hardware config info. Then YOU are making it that much harder for MS
to output a quality product. The more thy know about your hardware
config the more they can work to prevent whatever errors you are
having from occurring in future releases

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Old October 14th 05, 10:49 PM
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:40:47 -0400, Husky wrote:

On 18 Jul 2005 21:35:36 -0400, Sparda wrote:


Although I legally own my copy of XP, i chose not to activate windows,
living in England and not the US or any other country, it is perfectly
legal to by pass the windows activation, I prefer my anonymity, the
less information I send to Microsoft, the better, plus I can use this
copy of XP on many different PC (obviously not at the same time :P)


Interesting, how do you avoid the remind me NAG ?
Or for that matter, how do you get it to work past the 30 day grace period
allowed before needing to activate ?



If he is correct then its probably no less illegal to download cracks
But somehow I doubt that. Depends on the country of course but I
seriously doubt its legal in Britain, Australia and Ireland to name a
few
 




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