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  #16  
Old December 12th 06, 10:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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wrote:

Thank you for your quick response. I'm thinking I'll buy it. Guess
what though? They've discontinued the FreeAgent. It says it right on
their home page. Or, anyway, the page I first linked up to. But it's
only like $29/year and since the ISP provided one isn't
satisfactory...


I think you are getting a bit confused......ISPs do NOT provide a news
READER, they provide a news SERVER. There are many free news READERS you
can use, but if you wish to use a news SERVER other than the one your ISP
provides then you may well have to pay for access. If you pay for Agent,
that will NOT provide you with an alternative news SERVER at all, that will
just give you an alternative news READER. You will still have to connect to
a news SERVER somewhere in order to read news.....

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  #18  
Old December 12th 06, 04:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote:

Windows Mail has the option to compose at the bottom of the message


So does OE - it's a simple registry change.....
  #19  
Old December 12th 06, 06:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Ken Blake, MVP
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wrote:

I have not been too satisfied with the news reader that my ISP
provides so I downloaded Agent for a trial. It seems pretty good but
I wondered if anyone would like to comment on Agent or the news reader
they are using.



Agent is very popular and many people think it's the best newsreader. I
started out using Agent, liked it OK, then changed to Outlook Express (now
called Windows Mail, in Vista), which I like even better.

Which is the best newsreader, as with most software categories, is a very
personal choice. They all have different interfaces and different feature
sets. What is important to you may not be (as) important to me, and
vice-versa. We all have different needs and preferences. As a single
example, one of the reasons I prefer Outlook Express to Agent is the way
Outlook Express can easily handle using multiple news servers. For someone
else who uses only a single news server, that Outlook Express feature has no
value at all.

So my recommendation is to ignore my preference and everyone else's. Instead
try as many as you can (that's easy because most of them are either free or
have free trials) and choose what works best for *you*.

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Please reply to the newsgroup


  #21  
Old December 13th 06, 01:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Wes

Maybe we should introduce a practice from another place
and shout I SPY STRANGERS when a Linux fanatic emerges!
http://www.explore.parliament.uk/Par...phaSelect=true


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In ,
Ronnie Vernon MVP hunted and pecked:
Uh, it's a Windows newsgroup?

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NewScience wrote:
If you're on a Windows system. What if you're on Linux, Solaris,
....?

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in
message news wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have not been too satisfied with the news reader that my ISP
provides so I downloaded Agent for a trial. It seems pretty good
but I wondered if anyone would like to comment on Agent or the
news
reader they are using.

Thank you!

Kathy
aka smiley

In God We Trust

I use Outlook Express, which is already on your computer and costs
nothing.

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Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.



  #22  
Old December 13th 06, 01:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Mike

So does OE if that what you want!

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"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" wrote in
message ...
Windows Mail has the option to compose at the bottom of the message


"Leythos" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Outlook Express is free, and works well as a newsreader.. I now use
Windows
Mail as I run Vista 24/7.. it's free and works well..


While OE is free, it does not work well - as shown my your reply, it
puts the reply at the top instead of the bottom where it belongs.

OE also requires a patch in order to properly quote and delimit sigs.


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  #23  
Old December 13th 06, 01:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Some of us prefer top posting!

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"Leythos" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Outlook Express is free, and works well as a newsreader.. I now use
Windows
Mail as I run Vista 24/7.. it's free and works well..


While OE is free, it does not work well - as shown my your reply, it
puts the reply at the top instead of the bottom where it belongs.

OE also requires a patch in order to properly quote and delimit sigs.


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  #24  
Old December 13th 06, 01:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Kathy

You have not said what your ISP provided?

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wrote in message
...
Thank you!

Kathy
aka smiley

In God We Trust

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:53:39 +1100, Hypot
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:36:23 -0500 wrote:

Hi,

I have not been too satisfied with the news reader that my ISP
provides so I downloaded Agent for a trial. It seems pretty good but
I wondered if anyone would like to comment on Agent or the news
reader
they are using.

Thank you!


I use Agent Kathy and have done so for years.

Most helpful comment I could make is, there is an excellent newsgroup
where they discuss *just* Agent and there are many helpful people who
hang out there, including some of Agent's own team.

alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent



  #25  
Old December 13th 06, 01:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Stan Brown
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Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:36:23 -0500 from :
Hi,

I have not been too satisfied with the news reader that my ISP
provides so I downloaded Agent for a trial. It seems pretty good but
I wondered if anyone would like to comment on Agent or the news reader
they are using.


I hate Agent, after a purchase that was one frustration after
another.

Read news.software.readers and you'll see plenty of comparisons.

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http://OakRoadSystems.com/
  #26  
Old December 13th 06, 01:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Gordon

Just Ctrl+End before you start to type.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote:

Windows Mail has the option to compose at the bottom of the message


So does OE - it's a simple registry change.....



  #27  
Old December 13th 06, 02:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Ron Martell
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"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Some of us prefer top posting!


Top posting too often leads to sloppy posting, especially on long
threads where top-posters constantly forget to trim.

There is almost never any need for or value in including more than the
most recent message (meaning the one you are specifically replying) in
the response, and often only couple of sentences or a paragraph of the
original is all that is really needed to make then entire message
coherent and comprehendible.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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has never been in bed with a mosquito."
  #28  
Old December 13th 06, 02:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Ron

Top / Bottom Posting is purely matter of taste. You can be
just as sloppy if you bottom post!

Do you read what others have said in a thread before
you post? How do you monitors threads which have caught y
our interest?

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Stourport, England

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"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Some of us prefer top posting!


Top posting too often leads to sloppy posting, especially on long
threads where top-posters constantly forget to trim.

There is almost never any need for or value in including more than the
most recent message (meaning the one you are specifically replying) in
the response, and often only couple of sentences or a paragraph of the
original is all that is really needed to make then entire message
coherent and comprehendible.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."



  #29  
Old December 13th 06, 02:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Wesley Vogel
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I do not bother to read a lot of bottom posted messages. Especially on long
threads with all of the replies included.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Gerry Cornell hunted and pecked:
Ron

Top / Bottom Posting is purely matter of taste. You can be
just as sloppy if you bottom post!

Do you read what others have said in a thread before
you post? How do you monitors threads which have caught y
our interest?

--

Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

Some of us prefer top posting!


Top posting too often leads to sloppy posting, especially on long
threads where top-posters constantly forget to trim.

There is almost never any need for or value in including more than the
most recent message (meaning the one you are specifically replying) in
the response, and often only couple of sentences or a paragraph of the
original is all that is really needed to make then entire message
coherent and comprehendible.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."


  #30  
Old December 13th 06, 06:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Wesley Vogel
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A properly snipped reply should have the reply visible without scrolling
to read the top few lines (at least).


Sounds reasonable.

No matter what the problem may be, unless I am really interested in what
they have to say, I won't scroll a mile and a half to get there.

Sheesh. Probably have to scroll a mile and a half to read that sentence.
;-)

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In ,
Leythos hunted and pecked:
In article , 123WVogel955
@comcast.net says...
I do not bother to read a lot of bottom posted messages. Especially on
long threads with all of the replies included.


That would be because people don't know how to snip or they are
intermixing the reply so that it flows properly.


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