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  #46  
Old December 14th 06, 11:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Hypot

It is more logical to start reading at the top of the thread,
not the penultimate message in the thread. That way you avoid
making a contribution that goes over old ground.

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"Hypot" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:15:20 -0000 Gerry Cornell wrote:


Do you read what others have said in a thread before
you post? How do you monitors threads which have caught y
our interest?


I like to read what the previous poster said before I read a new post
in reply. If I read a top posted reply I have to scroll down to read
the previous post then scroll back up to read the reply.

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  #47  
Old December 14th 06, 12:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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Gerry Cornell wrote:

Hypot

It is more logical to start reading at the top of the thread,
not the penultimate message in the thread. That way you avoid
making a contribution that goes over old ground.


But you don't read a book from the bottom up, do you?

  #48  
Old December 14th 06, 02:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Leythos

When was this standard set? Is it relevant today? Why
does it matter?

How would you have me configure it?

Are you seeking a positive dialogue?

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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In article ,

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Customs change. They become outmoded.


No, they just become ignored by people that are self centered.

It's the standard to have nothing below the Sig, so when you quote
text
in your reply, your quoted text should be above the Sig and the sig
should be limited to 4-5 lines.

As you can see, your Usenet client is improperly configured and puts
the
quoted text below your Sig, which means that any reply using a proper
client will cut it off.

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  #49  
Old December 14th 06, 02:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Gordon

The previous thread in Outlook Express is above not below.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
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Gerry Cornell wrote:

Hypot

It is more logical to start reading at the top of the thread,
not the penultimate message in the thread. That way you avoid
making a contribution that goes over old ground.


But you don't read a book from the bottom up, do you?



  #50  
Old December 14th 06, 02:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gerry Cornell
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Leythos

That suggests you feel form is more important than content.

The market place put Outlook Express where it is today.
Whilst may users "hate" Microsoft for it's disregard of ideas
promulgated 20 years ago what is the purpose in continually
decrying what has come to pass. If another mail / newsreader
offers a better service then users will move on regardless
of what a small group dreamed of as Utopia 20 years ago.

BTW I know this small group is still active because my
daughter's father-in-law travels the world to Conferences.

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When you realize that Usenet is not the Web, not email, not your
personal form of communication with an individual, has norms that have
been in place for more than 20 years, you have two options, follow the
norms or disrespect the medium and users.

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  #51  
Old December 14th 06, 05:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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Gerry Cornell wrote:

Gordon

The previous thread in Outlook Express is above not below.


This thread is about top and bottom posting. therefore my post was ON TOPIC.
Go away and do some auditing.


  #52  
Old December 14th 06, 06:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Wesley Vogel
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Click the Sent header to sort the other direction. ;-)

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Gerry Cornell hunted and pecked:
Gordon

The previous thread in Outlook Express is above not below.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
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Gerry Cornell wrote:

Hypot

It is more logical to start reading at the top of the thread,
not the penultimate message in the thread. That way you avoid
making a contribution that goes over old ground.


But you don't read a book from the bottom up, do you?

  #53  
Old December 14th 06, 06:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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Leythos wrote:


Actually, it's about News Reader.


Yes I know. But Mr Cornell was debating the merits of top and bottom posting
within this thread, therefore his reply to me was out of order.


  #55  
Old December 14th 06, 07:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Wesley Vogel
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My whole point was that top, bottom or interspersed posting is all a matter
of personal choice.

If you want to Toyota post and snip the Fords and Chevys, then that's just
alright. ;-)

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In ,
Ken Blake, MVP hunted and pecked:
Wesley Vogel wrote:

Do you like Fords or Chevys better? ;-)



No, I don't ;-)


Foreign makes do not count.



They do to me. I like Toyota. ;-)

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In ,
Ken Blake, MVP hunted and pecked:
Wesley Vogel wrote:

I do not bother to read a lot of bottom posted messages. Especially
on long threads with all of the replies included.



I don't bother to read a lot of top-posted messages. Especially on
long threads with all of the replies included.

I would have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to find out
what the top-posting is in reply to, then scroll all the way back up
to read the reply.

The real issue, as far as I'm concerned, has little to do with
whether one top-posts or bottom posts. It has to do with trimming
what's not relevant to your reply. If you don't trim, and leave lots
of irrelevant quoted material, it takes lots of scrolling to be able
to understand your reply. If you trim adequately, your reply is
generally easy to find, read, and understand, whether it's on the
top or the bottom.

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  #56  
Old December 14th 06, 07:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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Wesley Vogel wrote:

My whole point was that top posting is all a
matter of personal choice.


So you read books, magazines and newspapers from the bottom up? Cool!
  #57  
Old December 14th 06, 08:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Tom Willett
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Apples and oranges, you netnanny troll.

"Gordon" wrote in message
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| Wesley Vogel wrote:
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| My whole point was that top posting is all a
| matter of personal choice.
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| So you read books, magazines and newspapers from the bottom up? Cool!


  #58  
Old December 14th 06, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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Tom Willett wrote:

Apples and oranges, you netnanny troll.


So you read books, magazines and newspapers from the bottom up as well?
Cool!


  #59  
Old December 14th 06, 09:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Ken Blake, MVP
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Wesley Vogel wrote:

My whole point was that top, bottom or interspersed posting is all a
matter of personal choice.



Yes, of course. I understood that, and agree with you. Just my little joke.


If you want to Toyota post and snip the Fords and Chevys, then that's
just alright. ;-)



LOL! To tell the truth, I'm sorry I got involved in this thread at all This
subject always seems to stir up emotions that are too strong for the
importance of the subject. Someone starts out expressing a preference one
way or another, and before you know it, it's become all insults and name
calling. Not my kind of thread, which is why I've stopped responding to it.

Your preferences are clearly different from mine, but I can live with the
way you post without a problem, just as you can apparently live with the way
I post. I only wish everyone else could do the same.

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In ,
Ken Blake, MVP hunted and pecked:
Wesley Vogel wrote:

Do you like Fords or Chevys better? ;-)



No, I don't ;-)


Foreign makes do not count.



They do to me. I like Toyota. ;-)

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In ,
Ken Blake, MVP hunted and pecked:
Wesley Vogel wrote:

I do not bother to read a lot of bottom posted messages.
Especially on long threads with all of the replies included.



I don't bother to read a lot of top-posted messages. Especially on
long threads with all of the replies included.

I would have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to find out
what the top-posting is in reply to, then scroll all the way back
up to read the reply.

The real issue, as far as I'm concerned, has little to do with
whether one top-posts or bottom posts. It has to do with trimming
what's not relevant to your reply. If you don't trim, and leave
lots of irrelevant quoted material, it takes lots of scrolling to
be able to understand your reply. If you trim adequately, your
reply is generally easy to find, read, and understand, whether
it's on the top or the bottom.

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  #60  
Old December 14th 06, 11:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Wesley Vogel
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I am saying if you do not like the way I post, either do not read my posts
or plonk me.

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Leythos hunted and pecked:
In article , 123WVogel955
@comcast.net says...
My whole point was that top, bottom or interspersed posting is all a
matter of personal choice.


So, you're saying that your preference is to disrespect the tradition
and standards instead of properly following the norms and standards.

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