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Old January 30th 07, 10:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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Default Boycott Vista in the UK!

According to this BBC page http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/
users in the Uk are going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE
the prices charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK I would
like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.


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  #2  
Old January 30th 07, 10:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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"Gordon" wrote in message
...
According to this BBC page http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/
users in the Uk are going to be ripped off yet again by being charged
DOUBLE the prices charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this
rip-off culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK I
would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.


Sorry, wrong link! (don't know how that one got in there!)
Link is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6309651.stm


  #3  
Old January 30th 07, 11:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Shenan Stanley
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Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the UK are
going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices
charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.
PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK
I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.


Gordon wrote:
Sorry, wrong link! (don't know how that one got in there!)

Link is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6309651.stm



Yes - that does seem to be quite the price jump from US to UK pricing.

You could try getting a message through/setting up something via the
standard means:
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/contactu...e/default.mspx

Looking at the pricing, it's almost like there was no conversion done...

Examples:
(Example 1)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Wi...850283-9421405
(UK Home Basic Upgrade - £99.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...TF8&s=software
(US Home Basic Upgrade - $98.99)

(Example 2)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...850283-9421405
(UK Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - £369.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...TF8&s=software
(US Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - $378.99)

Admittedly - I am not up on my currency exchange rates - but it seems off to
me.
Perhaps someone who knows the currency exchange rates better can enlighten?

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  #4  
Old January 30th 07, 11:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Gordon
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the UK are
going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices
charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.
PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK
I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.


Gordon wrote:
Sorry, wrong link! (don't know how that one got in there!)

Link is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6309651.stm



Yes - that does seem to be quite the price jump from US to UK pricing.

You could try getting a message through/setting up something via the
standard means:
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/contactu...e/default.mspx

Looking at the pricing, it's almost like there was no conversion done...

Examples:
(Example 1)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Wi...850283-9421405
(UK Home Basic Upgrade - £99.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...TF8&s=software
(US Home Basic Upgrade - $98.99)

(Example 2)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...850283-9421405
(UK Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - £369.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...TF8&s=software
(US Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - $378.99)

Admittedly - I am not up on my currency exchange rates - but it seems off
to me.
Perhaps someone who knows the currency exchange rates better can
enlighten?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Unfortunately this is what tends to happen for anything manufactured in USA
and sold in UK - the UK price in £ is the same as $.....OK when the exchange
rate is very low, but as it's nearly US$2 to the £ at the moment, is a HUGE
difference! It's called ripoff UK.....


  #5  
Old January 30th 07, 11:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Slim Berg
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Shenan Stanley wrote:

Perhaps someone who knows the currency exchange rates better can

enlighten?


Don't forget to add 17.5% VAT.

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

1.00 GBP = 1.96 USD
  #6  
Old January 30th 07, 12:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Don Schmidt
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A google search responded with:

1 British pounds = 1.9625 U.S. dollars

Conversion date wasn't given.


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"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the UK are
going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices
charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.
PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK
I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.


Gordon wrote:
Sorry, wrong link! (don't know how that one got in there!)

Link is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6309651.stm



Yes - that does seem to be quite the price jump from US to UK pricing.

You could try getting a message through/setting up something via the
standard means:
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/contactu...e/default.mspx

Looking at the pricing, it's almost like there was no conversion done...

Examples:
(Example 1)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Wi...850283-9421405
(UK Home Basic Upgrade - £99.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...TF8&s=software
(US Home Basic Upgrade - $98.99)

(Example 2)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...850283-9421405
(UK Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - £369.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...TF8&s=software
(US Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - $378.99)

Admittedly - I am not up on my currency exchange rates - but it seems off
to me.
Perhaps someone who knows the currency exchange rates better can
enlighten?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Unfortunately this is what tends to happen for anything manufactured in
USA and sold in UK - the UK price in £ is the same as $.....OK when the
exchange rate is very low, but as it's nearly US$2 to the £ at the moment,
is a HUGE difference! It's called ripoff UK.....



  #7  
Old January 30th 07, 01:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
John John
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Shenan Stanley wrote:

Gordon wrote:

According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the UK are
going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices
charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.
PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK
I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.



Gordon wrote:

Sorry, wrong link! (don't know how that one got in there!)

Link is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6309651.stm




Yes - that does seem to be quite the price jump from US to UK pricing.

You could try getting a message through/setting up something via the
standard means:
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/contactu...e/default.mspx

Looking at the pricing, it's almost like there was no conversion done...

Examples:
(Example 1)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Wi...850283-9421405
(UK Home Basic Upgrade - £99.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...TF8&s=software
(US Home Basic Upgrade - $98.99)

(Example 2)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...850283-9421405
(UK Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - £369.99)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wind...TF8&s=software
(US Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - $378.99)

Admittedly - I am not up on my currency exchange rates - but it seems off to
me.
Perhaps someone who knows the currency exchange rates better can enlighten?


Date: 1 in U.K. pounds equals: Exchange rate:
29 Jan 2007 1.96 US dollars (noon) 1.9590 (0.5105)

Date: 369.99 in U.K. pounds equals: Exchange rate:
29 Jan 2007 724.82 US dollars (noon) 1.9590 (0.5105)

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/exchform.html

Good thing you guys in the UK are rich...

John

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Old January 30th 07, 02:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/
users in the Uk are going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE
the prices charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK I would
like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.




The prices listed, I'll agree, are outrageous. How much of that is V.A.T?


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  #9  
Old January 30th 07, 02:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Bruce Chambers wrote:
Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the Uk are
going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices
charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK I
would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.



The prices listed, I'll agree, are outrageous. How much of that is
V.A.T?



17.5%

Alias
  #10  
Old January 30th 07, 02:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Alias wrote:
Bruce Chambers wrote:
Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the Uk are
going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices
charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK I
would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.



The prices listed, I'll agree, are outrageous. How much of that
is V.A.T?



17.5%

Alias



Ouch! But that still doesn't account for the entire difference, does
it? I wonder if Microsoft is charging more in member countries of the
EU, since EU courts are imposing such costly, and sometime absurd,
conditions on Microsoft, at the behest of European companies that can't
compete?


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  #11  
Old January 30th 07, 02:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Bruce Chambers wrote:
Alias wrote:
Bruce Chambers wrote:
Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the Uk are
going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices
charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK
I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.



The prices listed, I'll agree, are outrageous. How much of that
is V.A.T?



17.5%

Alias



Ouch! But that still doesn't account for the entire difference,
does it? I wonder if Microsoft is charging more in member countries of
the EU, since EU courts are imposing such costly, and sometime absurd,
conditions on Microsoft, at the behest of European companies that can't
compete?



In Spain, Retail Business goes for over 600 USD. Generic OEMs, however,
are about the same as the USA. Weird. We only have 16% VAT.

Alias
  #12  
Old January 30th 07, 03:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Alias

A technical correction.

The rate for an inclusive price is 14.893617% i.e. 17.5 divided by
117.5. 17.5% is the rate of VAT to be added to the price before VAT.

The Yanks like driving hard bargains. Lend Lease comes to mind! It
could well have been that way since the Boston Tea Party!


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Alias wrote:
Bruce Chambers wrote:
Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the Uk
are going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE
the prices charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until
this rip-off culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of
MS UK I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on
this.



The prices listed, I'll agree, are outrageous. How much of
that is V.A.T?



17.5%

Alias

  #13  
Old January 30th 07, 04:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Eric
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"Gordon" wrote in message
...
According to this BBC page http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/
users in the Uk are going to be ripped off yet again by being charged
DOUBLE the prices charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this
rip-off culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK I
would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.


I hear the price of a German car is higher in the US than in Germany.
What's up with that?
I hear those crazy people want us to pay shipping and import expenses too.

I hear we pay $70 in the US for a jacket they can get for $5 in S Korea.
What's up with that?

If you don't like the price they charge in your country, come to our country
and buy it and take it back with you.
If they charge $99 here and 99 pounds there, be sure to file another
complaint if the value of a dollar exceeds the value of the pound.
Make sure you factor in the cost to get the product from here to there, as
well as the additional regulations costs to Microsoft to operate in Europe.


  #14  
Old January 30th 07, 04:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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"Eric" wrote in message
...

I hear the price of a German car is higher in the US than in Germany.
What's up with that?


So don't buy a German car. there's plenty of other choices. Microsoft's
actions over the last 15 years have ensured there IS no other choice for the
vast majority of people - it's called "monopoly".....


  #15  
Old January 30th 07, 05:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
C A Upsdell
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Gordon wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message
...
According to this BBC page http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/
users in the Uk are going to be ripped off yet again by being charged
DOUBLE the prices charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this
rip-off culture stops.


Perhaps MS is keeping the excess in reserve to pay future EU fines.
Coping with bureaucratic idiocies is part of doing business in Europe.

 




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