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  #61  
Old February 1st 07, 01:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default Boycott Vista in the UK!

Pete Stavrakoglou wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message
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Pete Stavrakoglou wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message
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With Bush's fiscal and warring policies, that will never happen.
Our economy is doing well, has been for years now. His policies aren't
as bad as the press or whatever your source is would have you believe.


False. Weak dollar. Highest budget and trade deficit in history. Most jobs
are crap jobs at places like McDonald's. Over 40 million people without
health insurance. The most prisoners and homeless in the developed world.
The economy may be great for Exxon, Microsoft and Bush's buddies but not
the average American. Tell the victims of hurricane Katrina how groovy the
US economy is. And, when you're done, take a stroll through LA's South
Central and tell them because neither of them have gotten the news.

Alias


Are you an American?


Yes, although since Bush became president, I don't make a big deal out
of it.

Those of us who are average Americans know differently
than what you seem to think is the case. You couldn't be more wrong.


How so?

BTW,
what does the number of criminals in jail have to do with the strength of
our economy.


You're kidding, right? Those people could be rehabilitated and/or never
given such draconian long sentences and be reinserted into society as
tax paying citizens, of course!

What are you smoking?


Can you address the issues or only hurl mocking insults?

Alias
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  #62  
Old February 1st 07, 10:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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"Tx2" wrote in message
T...

XP works perfectly for me, but I will eventually get round to setting up
a Linux box when I have time and can be bothered to ****-arse around
with configuring it.


Think you'll find that current releases of (say) Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS just
"work out of the box" and need no more configuring than XP does.....in fact
my experience is that an install of either of those is actually EASIER and
FASTER than XP, AND that includes a fully-functioning office suite. You have
to a) buy Office and b) install it after the XP install...


  #63  
Old February 1st 07, 02:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Gordon wrote:
According to this BBC page
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the Uk are
going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices
charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off
culture stops.

PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK
I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this.


Gordon wrote:
Sorry, wrong link! (don't know how that one got in there!)
Link is:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6309651.stm


Phisherman wrote:
Worse than that, if you install it you'll find that your computer
runs slower than with Windows XP.


Rock wrote:
I installed it, my computer runs great with it. Triple boot with
XP. So there goes your contention. Lots of people installing it
now with the public release. If what you said were true as a
matter of course, then people would be screaming that in the Vista
newsgroups, but that's not happening.

Depending on the hardware configuration, problems with the install,
lack of drivers, your contention is true for some systems, but not
as a general rule. But then there were people saying that XP would
be a disaster too.

When you make a blanket statement like that, without any credible
substantiation (and there can't be any in this case because your
statement is in fact not true) all you do is show a bias and lack
of knowledge.


Frank wrote:
I installed it on a test machine and it is SLOOOW.
A pretty standard box. 2 Ghz Celeron, 512 MB DDR RAM, 7200 RPM 40
Gb hard drive, 8x nvidia 128 MB, DVD, CD-RW. SLOOOOW and no useful
upgrades.


Gordon wrote:
Isn't a GB of RAM the recommended minimum?


Leythos wrote:
Everything I've read shows that it's slow on 512MB no matter how
fast the CPU. 1GB seems to be the minimum like 256MB is the Min for
XP.


In Windows XP Basics newsgroup only (not cross-posted)...
(Real or not - who knows - but surprisingly little activity on it..)

Enigmatic wrote:
I contacted Microsoft about this and the reply was as follows:

"Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email concerning price differences for
Windows Vista between the US and the UK.

In response to your query, I can confirm that the U.S will
usually be cheaper owing to the following reasons:

U.S resellers, particularly online ones may be able to sell the
product at a lower price owing to them taking a reduction in
their margins. They can normally do this more than resellers
in smaller countries due to the economies of scale of selling
to a larger customer base.

I should point out at this stage, that as a result of EU
regulations we cannot set prices ourselves. Taxation, which
can be substantially lower in the U.S than the U.K. Operation
costs such as distribution and manufacturing can be
significantly lower in the U.S owing to the same economies
of scale as mentioned above.

Different Microsoft regional offices can offer promotions and
discounts to resellers and consumers that are specific to their
own region. Microsoft UK and Microsoft Europe will quite often
offer such promotions that are not applicable to our U.S
customers.

Finally, the differences in price can also vary with the currency
exchange rate between the U.S and the U.K.

I hope this information has answered your query, but if
you have any more questions please give us a call on
0870 60 10 100. Our lines are open from 8.00am to 6.00pm,
Monday to Friday. Telephone traffic is at its lowest early in the
morning. Of course if you prefer please send me an email.

Many thanks for contacting us.
Kind Regards,
MAMATHA DALEER
Customer Service
Professional
Microsoft Customer Services

There you go, folks.
Robin


Depending on who you are and what you wanted to do with
Windows XP/Windows Vista... All those minimum spec
Windows (XP or Vista) compatible computers started
out outdated.

"Minimum" System Requirements for Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314865/

"Minimum" System Requirements for Windows Vista:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...uirements.mspx


"Realistic" System Requirements for Windows XP (IMHO)...

My suggested hardware requirements for Windows XP are (IMHO):
.. 1-gigahertz (GHz) processor or faster
.. At least 512 megabytes (MB) of RAM (1+GB is recommended)
.. At least 30 gigabytes (GB) of available space on the hard disk (40+GB
recommended)
.. 64+MB Video Card
.. Other basic system components as needed/desired by the end-user...


"Realistic" System Requirements for Windows Vista (IMHO)...

My suggested hardware requirements for Windows Vista a
.. 2.4-gigahertz (GHz) processor or faster
.. At least 1 gigabyte (GB) of RAM (1.5+GB is recommended)
.. At least 60 gigabytes (GB) of available space on the hard disk (100+GB
recommended)
.. 128+MB Video Card
.. Other basic system components as needed/desired by the end-user...

Why the difference? Experience with the operating systems with all sorts of
users.

Sure - there are many users who could do with MUCH less than what I
suggest - there might even be one or two out there who can deal with the
actual minimums - although, those people are very few and far-between now.
If you want a semi-decent experience with all the bells and whistles
everyone else gets to see though - so that if you grow, your computer
doesn't have to *too much* - I'd go with my suggested requirements instead.

Other opinions *will* differ.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


  #64  
Old February 1st 07, 04:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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BTW, what does the number of criminals in jail have to do with the
strength of our economy.


Working people commit far fewer crimes than jobless people.


  #65  
Old February 1st 07, 04:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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JohnO wrote:
BTW, what does the number of criminals in jail have to do with the
strength of our economy.


Working people commit far fewer crimes than jobless people.



Except, of course, Bush and Cheney's good old boys at Enron.

Alias
 




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