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Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!



 
 
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  #1  
Old September 25th 08, 04:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
D. Spencer Hines[_2_]
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Default Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Errant Twaddle.

Use NTREGOPT.EXE.

It's safe and easy to use.

Freeware.
--
DSH
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Vires et Honor

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:16:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Windows Vista Registry Cleaner is one such service
provider that is needed to maintain the operating system in good
working conditions.



Nope!

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner
erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

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  #2  
Old September 25th 08, 04:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John John (MVP)
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Default Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

NTRegOpt is not a registry cleaner.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Errant Twaddle.

Use NTREGOPT.EXE.

It's safe and easy to use.

Freeware.

  #3  
Old September 25th 08, 06:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
D. Spencer Hines[_2_]
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Default Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"John John (MVP)" wrote in message
...

NTRegOpt is not a registry cleaner.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:


Errant Twaddle.

Use NTREGOPT.EXE.

It's safe and easy to use.

Freeware.



  #4  
Old September 26th 08, 01:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bruce Chambers
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.



CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it
clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry
cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any
*useful* purpose, to start with.)


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  #5  
Old September 26th 08, 07:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Jaelani
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I second that. Those cleaner softwares will only do harm than good -
especially for non-technical users. Worst is that their ads is
becoming misleading nowadays and luring more users. And the sad part
is that people think that the higher number a cleaner can detect a
junk and clean them, the better it will be. But those softwares are
just preprogrammed cleaners. They'll clean anything without even
knowing what the objects actually means and what will affect. Sure,
they'll clean them right - along with other minor system objects.
They'll cripple the system little by little. When the system has been
noticeably unstable, it would be too late since the damage has been
done all over the place - in small parts. Nuff said.


Bruce Chambers wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.



CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it
clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry
cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any
*useful* purpose, to start with.)

  #6  
Old September 26th 08, 02:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
HeyBub
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Default Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Bruce Chambers wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.



CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)


Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
the culprit...


  #7  
Old September 26th 08, 02:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Default Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

An "orphaned entry" will never be accessed since the application that
wrote the key is gone. Nothing bad can happen from an orphaned entry.
It's just like a channel position on your television that has no station
attached to it.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

HeyBub wrote:
Bruce Chambers wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.


CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)


Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
the culprit...


  #8  
Old September 26th 08, 05:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
D. Spencer Hines[_2_]
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Default Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.

I've been using it for several years now with good results.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

Bruce Chambers wrote:


D. Spencer Hines wrote:


Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.


CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner.



  #9  
Old September 26th 08, 08:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bruce Chambers
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HeyBub wrote:
Bruce Chambers wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.


CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)


Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
the culprit...




Yes, of course I checked them; Wouldn't have been much of a test,
otherwise. They weren't remnants of the OS installation; all (dozens,
I'd noticed the trend by then) of the ones I checked were legitimate keys.


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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
  #10  
Old September 26th 08, 08:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bruce Chambers
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.


There is *NO* such thing.


I've been using it for several years now with good results.



Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure
they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In
other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific
evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.


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Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
  #11  
Old September 26th 08, 08:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Look out. DSH /loves/ this. He made it into my Killfile Hall of Fame on
the first ballot.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

Bruce Chambers wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.


There is *NO* such thing.


I've been using it for several years now with good results.



Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure
they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In
other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific
evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.


  #12  
Old September 26th 08, 08:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
db.·.. >
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tisk tisk tisk,
your wrong again.

you know good and
well that anyone with
due deligence can
compare the before
and after of registry
cleaning....

besides, you have
admitted on several
occassions that you
use cc cleaner.

don't you remember
i called you on it?

perhaps, you should
add into your quote
line: "do as i say and
not as i do"

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ...
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.


There is *NO* such thing.


I've been using it for several years now with good results.



Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure they either been notarized or verified by an independent
laboratory. In other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific evidence will I give such claims a lick of
credence.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot


  #13  
Old September 27th 08, 02:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
N. Miller
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:11 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.

I've been using it for several years now with good results.


There is no such thing as a "safe" registry cleaner; except for the one not
used. "Clean" the wrong key from your registry, and your system is hosed.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
  #14  
Old September 27th 08, 03:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
D. Spencer Hines[_2_]
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Twaddle.

I approve every single registry change that is made.

If I don't approve it, no change is made.

Perfectly safe.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:11 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.

I've been using it for several years now with good results.


There is no such thing as a "safe" registry cleaner; except for the
one not
used. "Clean" the wrong key from your registry, and your system is
hosed.



  #15  
Old September 27th 08, 06:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bruce Chambers
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db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
tisk tisk tisk,
your wrong again.

you know good and
well that anyone with
due deligence can
compare the before
and after of registry
cleaning....



.... and find absolutely no change for the better. (Provided the
computer boots at all, that is.) If an one had ever found such
evidense, they'd surely have made it public it by now.


besides, you have
admitted on several
occassions that you
use cc cleaner.



Certainly, I've always conceded that CCleaner is quite useful help in
finding and cleaning up temporary files on the hard drive. We're not
discussing that function, but rather it's uselessness as a registry
cleaner, which I merely tested.


don't you remember
i called you on it?



I really don't think that your repeatedly demonstrating a lack of
reading comprehension can truly be considered as "calling" me on
anything, do you?



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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 




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