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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.


There is *NO* such thing.


I've been using it for several years now with good results.


Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure
they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In
other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific
evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.


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Bruce Chambers wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.


There is *NO* such thing.


I've been using it for several years now with good results.


Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure
they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In
other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific
evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.

tisk tisk tisk,
your wrong again.

you know good and
well that anyone with
due deligence can
compare the before
and after of registry
cleaning....

besides, you have
admitted on several
occassions that you
use cc cleaner.

don't you remember
i called you on it?

perhaps, you should
add into your quote
line: "do as i say and
not as i do"

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"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ...
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.


There is *NO* such thing.


I've been using it for several years now with good results.


Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure they either been notarized or verified by an independent
laboratory. In other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific evidence will I give such claims a lick of
credence.


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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:11 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.

I've been using it for several years now with good results.

There is no such thing as a "safe" registry cleaner; except for the one not
used. "Clean" the wrong key from your registry, and your system is hosed.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Twaddle.

I approve every single registry change that is made.

If I don't approve it, no change is made.

Perfectly safe.
--
DSH
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Vires et Honor

"N. Miller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:11 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.

I've been using it for several years now with good results.

There is no such thing as a "safe" registry cleaner; except for the
one not
used. "Clean" the wrong key from your registry, and your system is
hosed.

db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
tisk tisk tisk,
your wrong again.

you know good and
well that anyone with
due deligence can
compare the before
and after of registry
cleaning....



.... and find absolutely no change for the better. (Provided the
computer boots at all, that is.) If an one had ever found such
evidense, they'd surely have made it public it by now.


besides, you have
admitted on several
occassions that you
use cc cleaner.



Certainly, I've always conceded that CCleaner is quite useful help in
finding and cleaning up temporary files on the hard drive. We're not
discussing that function, but rather it's uselessness as a registry
cleaner, which I merely tested.


don't you remember
i called you on it?



I really don't think that your repeatedly demonstrating a lack of
reading comprehension can truly be considered as "calling" me on
anything, do you?



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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Twaddle.

I approve every single registry change that is made.

If I don't approve it, no change is made.

Perfectly safe.


If the registry cleaner is so "perfectly safe," why do you feel the
need to approve each and every change? You do realize, don't you, that
you've just added weight to the position you're trying to argue against?


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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

Balderdash...

Good software has checks and balances built in -- with full input by
the user.

CCleaner does an excellent job of cleaning the registry -- and
incorporating user input -- just as a good physician or attorney does.

Chambers seems to be the resident Village Idiot here.

Does he always provide Great Entertainment like this?

It's like having a pet kigme -- always ready to take a sharp, swift
kick to the derriere.
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"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Twaddle.

I approve every single registry change that is made.

If I don't approve it, no change is made.

Perfectly safe.

If the registry cleaner is so "perfectly safe," why do you feel the
need to approve each and every change? You do realize, don't you,
that you've just added weight to the position you're trying to argue
against?

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
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Bruce, DNFTEC; you'll only get bitten. See
http://lcngarc.twoshakesofalambstail...998120729.html
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Ildhund wrote:
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
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Bruce, DNFTEC; you'll only get bitten. See
http://lcngarc.twoshakesofalambstail...998120729.html


I see your point, but my primary concern is to ensure that there's a
rebuttal to the deliberately harmful advice these people post, so that
newbies are at least warned of the dangers. If doing so also boosts the
sad little trolls' egos, I think it's a price I'll just have to accept.
Anyway, they generally make themselves look increasingly desperate and
pathetic with each new post.



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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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Balderdash...

Good software has checks and balances built in -- with full input by the
user.

CCleaner does an excellent job of cleaning the registry -- and
incorporating user input -- just as a good physician or attorney does.

snip

What on earth have physicians and attorneys got to do with CCleaner. You are
a really strange person!

I use to be an advocate of Registry Cleaners. I use to try them all and was
quite convinced they were an essential for efficient computer management.
Perhaps in the days pre WINXP they were useful. I read all the cautionary
advice given in the NGs and like you dismissed them. Everytime I
experienced a glitch, time to run a 'cleaner' and I use to have 'glitches'
at regular intervals. I then decided perhaps I should stop running these
Cleaners and see what happens. Now I no longer have these 'glitches' or any
need to restore the Registry (ERUNT) from time to time. My experience has
been sufficient for me to relate machine problems (glitches) with Registry
Cleaners. Before you comment, I do run programs like CCleaner, not the
Registry Cleaner component, and Disk Cleaner regularly to clear out the
'trash' . Actually I think Disk Cleaner is the better of the programs.

What I do question is that Registry Cleaners will or may corrupt the
Registry to the extent of preventing boot up. This statement I simply find
absurd. For a Registry Cleaner to do this it would need to remove/corrupt
Registry entries that are essential to the OS. Even with the most
rudimentary Quality Control the software designer would identify and correct
that before the program was issued. Registry Cleaners certainly do remove
entries that are required by some programs to operate (empty keys no doubt)
and this is where they fall down. I suppose the essential question is, in
what way does the removal of empty and redundant data in the Registry
improve machine performance and/or in what way do empty and redundant keys
impair machine performance. If the machine must read every Registry entry
to permit it to execute a command then the answer is self evident but that
is not the case.

Registry Cleaners are a con. There only value is to give the users of such
programs a 'feel good' feeling. These programs remove entries in the
Registry of entries that do not require removal and by doing so sometimes
'throws the baby out with the bath water'.

Never happened to me...

Fact:

My system runs smoother and swifter since I started using the CCleaner
registry cleaner.

I'm not vouching for regcleaners in GENERAL.

So your post was one long non sequitur.

'Nuff Said.
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"Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message
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baldersnip

Registry Cleaners are a con. There [sic] only value is to give the
users of such programs a 'feel good' feeling. These programs remove
entries in the Registry of entries that do not require removal and
by doing so sometimes [sic] 'throws [sic] the baby out with the bath
water'.

"Bruce Chambers" schreef in bericht
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Ildhund wrote:
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
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Bruce, DNFTEC; you'll only get bitten. See
http://lcngarc.twoshakesofalambstail...998120729.html


I see your point, but my primary concern is to ensure that there's a
rebuttal to the deliberately harmful advice these people post, so that
newbies are at least warned of the dangers. If doing so also boosts the
sad little trolls' egos, I think it's a price I'll just have to accept.
Anyway, they generally make themselves look increasingly desperate and
pathetic with each new post.



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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

What a lot of crap I read here. cCleaner is not so good as some think. It
produces a lot of problems and there are far better programs available with
much less problems.

Cleaning the registry does absolutely nothing to improve speed and
performance, any increase in performance is more likely due to CC
getting rid of temp files. Given the massive size of the registry,
cleaning it out and claiming that the computer runs faster is akin to
running the vacuum cleaner in your car and then claiming that the car
goes faster because you got rid of a pound of dust and dirt! Once in a
blue moon a registry cleaner may be of help to experienced users trying
to troubleshoot problems, othewise these tools are next to useless or
worse. These tools *do* cause problems but most of the people who use
them don't have enough experience to see the link to the damage done by
the cleaner.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Never happened to me...

Fact:

My system runs smoother and swifter since I started using the CCleaner
registry cleaner.

I'm not vouching for regcleaners in GENERAL.

So your post was one long non sequitur.

'Nuff Said.

Bruce Chambers wrote:

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it
clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry
cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any
*useful* purpose, to start with.)

I rarely start a pc from scratch just to test out an opinion I read
here, but in this case I believe I will. I will just take a guess that
on a fresh install Windows itself adds "useless" aka "currently
unneeded" entries that do not point to anything useful. Or, perhaps,
Windows adds entries that may come in handy in the future to help
install hardware and software.

Reference:
http://www.bootdisk.com/housecall/0035.htm#3

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