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Win xp oem activation hits me clear as mud!
I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail
edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to build my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from now dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, thereby keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose fault cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard heaven? Thanks, David |
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No you are incorrect
"David Sewell" wrote in message ... I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to build my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from now dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, thereby keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose fault cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard heaven? Thanks, David |
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Please, but you might tell me where I'm incorrect thanks, sir...
Genuine thanks from the UK! David "Keith AH" wrote in message ... No you are incorrect "David Sewell" wrote in message ... I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to build my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from now dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, thereby keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose fault cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard heaven? Thanks, David |
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This is copied direct from the OEM license
Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced, for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC. The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the end-user license agreement (EULA) and the support of the software covered by that EULA. The EULA is a set of usage rights granted to the end-user by the PC manufacturer and relates only to rights for that software as installed on that particular PC. The System Builder is required to support the software on that individual PC. Understanding that end users, over time, upgrade their PC with different components, Microsoft needed to have one base component "left standing" that would still define that original PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially created. The original System Builder, therefore, can not be expected to support this new PC that they in effect, did not manufacture. "David Sewell" wrote in message ... Please, but you might tell me where I'm incorrect thanks, sir... Genuine thanks from the UK! David "Keith AH" wrote in message ... No you are incorrect "David Sewell" wrote in message ... I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to build my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from now dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, thereby keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose fault cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard heaven? Thanks, David |
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I read it all. Hence my subject heading "Win xp oem activation hits me
clear as mud!" Sorry, have you heard of the plain english society? Maybe there should (if it does not already exist) be an American version.... Sorry guys........ |
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The wording in the post by Keith AH is not something you agreed to. Although
you are "your own OEM," you are not formally an OEM in the eyes of MS. That is why it is clear as mud. You, by definition, "slip between the cracks." "David Sewell" wrote in message ... I read it all. Hence my subject heading "Win xp oem activation hits me clear as mud!" Sorry, have you heard of the plain english society? Maybe there should (if it does not already exist) be an American version.... Sorry guys........ |
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David Sewell wrote:
I read it all. Hence my subject heading "Win xp oem activation hits me clear as mud!" Sorry, have you heard of the plain english society? Maybe there should (if it does not already exist) be an American version.... Sorry guys........ Plain english society? Is there such a thing? Sounds cool. I'm gonna look it up... Is this what you mean? http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/introduction.html Steve |
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Company legal contracts [EULA] are written by teams of lawyers. If you ever
find one written in plain easily understood English [Italian, Polish, etc] either on this or any other side of the Atlantic, I will never believe that it is real. I plainly understand that an OEM Windows license is limited to the first computer upon which it is installed. If the Microsoft EULA displayed is correct, you can upgrade about any part of it [except the Motherboard] at your will. If the motherboard is upgraded, OEM license is revoked UNLESS the original board burned out and you replace it with one Microsoft will approve in extending the OEM License. In other words, call them before you buy and install the motherboard since there are going to be limitations imposed. The only reason to buy an OEM license is to save some money but then you have to accept the ensuing limitations. Gene K "David Sewell" wrote in message ... I read it all. Hence my subject heading "Win xp oem activation hits me clear as mud!" Sorry, have you heard of the plain english society? Maybe there should (if it does not already exist) be an American version.... Sorry guys........ |
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Keith AH wrote:
This is copied direct from the OEM license Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced, for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC. The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the end-user license agreement (EULA) and the support of the software covered by that EULA. The EULA is a set of usage rights granted to the end-user by the PC manufacturer and relates only to rights for that software as installed on that particular PC. The System Builder is required to support the software on that individual PC. Understanding that end users, over time, upgrade their PC with different components, Microsoft needed to have one base component "left standing" that would still define that original PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially created. The original System Builder, therefore, can not be expected to support this new PC that they in effect, did not manufacture. Where did you get that, as it sounds like the System Builder License, NOT the END USERS LICENSE AGREEMENT! What is the difference? The End User, like the OP, NEVER agreed to be held to the terms of the SYSTEM BUILDERS LICENSE! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Again the question was if the board dies do I have to get another copy this
is what an OEM would have to adhere to which is also then what the customer by accepting the OEM copy would adhere to "kurttrail" wrote in message ... Keith AH wrote: This is copied direct from the OEM license Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced, for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC. The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the end-user license agreement (EULA) and the support of the software covered by that EULA. The EULA is a set of usage rights granted to the end-user by the PC manufacturer and relates only to rights for that software as installed on that particular PC. The System Builder is required to support the software on that individual PC. Understanding that end users, over time, upgrade their PC with different components, Microsoft needed to have one base component "left standing" that would still define that original PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially created. The original System Builder, therefore, can not be expected to support this new PC that they in effect, did not manufacture. Where did you get that, as it sounds like the System Builder License, NOT the END USERS LICENSE AGREEMENT! What is the difference? The End User, like the OP, NEVER agreed to be held to the terms of the SYSTEM BUILDERS LICENSE! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Keith AH wrote:
This is copied direct from the OEM license Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. snip But that is not what the End User has access to, nor do I if I go to Wal-Mart or Staples and buy a copy of of WinXP Pro OEM release. This is from the EULA for OEM XP Pro: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Microsoft(r) Windows(r) XP Tablet PC Edition and Microsoft(r) Windows(r) XP Media Center Edition END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT IMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY: This End-User License Agreement ("EULA") is a legal agreement between you (either an individual or a single legal entity) and the manufacturer ("Manufacturer") of the computer system or computer system component ("HARDWARE") with which you acquired the Microsoft software product(s) identified on the Certificate of Authenticity ("COA") affixed to the HARDWARE or on the associated product documentation ("SOFTWARE"). And he "The term "COMPUTER" as used herein shall mean the HARDWARE, if the HARDWARE is a single computer system, or shall mean the computer system with which the HARDWARE operates, if the HARDWARE is a computer system component. 1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Manufacturer grants you the following rights, provided you comply with all of the terms and conditions of this EULA: * Installation and Use. Except as otherwise expressly provided in this EULA, you may install, use, access, display and run only one (1) copy of the SOFTWARE on the COMPUTER." Nowhere in that EULA is the word "motherboard". "the computer system with which the HARDWARE operates" could mean every and anything. End users are not prohibited by the EULA from changing any and everything in the computer system. Most new PCs I see have the COA affixed to the case. Theoretically I could gut the whole damn thing and rebuild it inside with anything/everything else different. As long as that COA and case stay together there is no EULA violation that I can see. Why heck, it would sure look like the same computer, too. Steve |
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You can not buy an OEM version at Staples or Walmart only a computerfrom an
Oem that has a preinstalled version on it I was giving what the license states and what an OEM installer is suppose to agree to to be able to sell an Oem version. Since this was about an Oem version of the software. "Steve N." wrote in message k.net... Keith AH wrote: This is copied direct from the OEM license Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. snip But that is not what the End User has access to, nor do I if I go to Wal-Mart or Staples and buy a copy of of WinXP Pro OEM release. This is from the EULA for OEM XP Pro: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Microsoft(r) Windows(r) XP Tablet PC Edition and Microsoft(r) Windows(r) XP Media Center Edition END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT IMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY: This End-User License Agreement ("EULA") is a legal agreement between you (either an individual or a single legal entity) and the manufacturer ("Manufacturer") of the computer system or computer system component ("HARDWARE") with which you acquired the Microsoft software product(s) identified on the Certificate of Authenticity ("COA") affixed to the HARDWARE or on the associated product documentation ("SOFTWARE"). And he "The term "COMPUTER" as used herein shall mean the HARDWARE, if the HARDWARE is a single computer system, or shall mean the computer system with which the HARDWARE operates, if the HARDWARE is a computer system component. 1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Manufacturer grants you the following rights, provided you comply with all of the terms and conditions of this EULA: * Installation and Use. Except as otherwise expressly provided in this EULA, you may install, use, access, display and run only one (1) copy of the SOFTWARE on the COMPUTER." Nowhere in that EULA is the word "motherboard". "the computer system with which the HARDWARE operates" could mean every and anything. End users are not prohibited by the EULA from changing any and everything in the computer system. Most new PCs I see have the COA affixed to the case. Theoretically I could gut the whole damn thing and rebuild it inside with anything/everything else different. As long as that COA and case stay together there is no EULA violation that I can see. Why heck, it would sure look like the same computer, too. Steve |
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David Sewell wrote:
I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to build my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from now dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, Only if you are a sucker. thereby keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose fault cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard heaven? MS can disappear off the face of the earth today, and there is nothing that could put a dent in the life style that Billy G. has become accustomed. -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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You sound like a Linux troll!
Not much wrong with that! |
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David Sewell wrote:
You sound like a Linux troll! Not much wrong with that! Except the LinTrolls don't like me! LOL! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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