XP accessing 224.0.0.2 - advice please

In within
uk.telecom.broadband, 'Ivor Jones' wrote:

Barry Margolin wrote:

[snip]

When you answer questions like these in a technical newsgroup,
you're purporting to have some expertise on the subject. When it
comes out that you don't know a whole lot about the technology,
retorts like that are likely.

Why..?

Why is it necessary to be rude..? Would you call me an idiot to my face..?
Or is it only because you're hiding behind a keyboard..?

I would quite possibly have called you an idiot to your face. I'd have
been smiling as I did so, and it could well have been taken as a
compliment.

Unfortunately, on a text only medium, we cannot know how Sean meant
it. I can only assume (from the LOL) that it was meant in an equally
lighthearted manner.

Plonking someone for an even more definitely lighthearted 'idiot!'
perhaps deserves the comment in a more serious frame of mind.

Oversensitivity on usenet is like using a schmitt trigger[1] to boost
a weak audio signal.

[1]
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/featur...fid=1861702223
or for more detail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmitt_trigger

Dave J.

Dave J wrote:

[snip]

I would quite possibly have called you an idiot to your face. I'd
have been smiling as I did so, and it could well have been taken as
a compliment.

I can assure you it would not.

Unfortunately, on a text only medium, we cannot know how Sean meant
it. I can only assume (from the LOL) that it was meant in an equally
lighthearted manner.

I don't make assumptions. I take what I see at face value. If someone
calls me an idiot then to me that indicates they think I am an idiot.

Plonking someone for an even more definitely lighthearted 'idiot!'
perhaps deserves the comment in a more serious frame of mind.

Oversensitivity on usenet is like using a schmitt trigger[1] to
boost a weak audio signal.

If not liking offensive comments is being oversensitive then that's what I
am. I don't do it to others and I don't expect it to be done to me.

This discussion is becoming tiresome, so I propose to end it here. Just
don't be offensive to me is all I ask. Is that *so* unreasonable..?

Ivor

In within
uk.telecom.broadband, 'cw' wrote:

"Ivor Jones" wrote in
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Sounded more like a light hearted jest than an offensive hurl.
Idiot ;0)

Calling someone an idiot just because they've never heard of something
is offensive.

Please don't do it, at least not to me.

And here's me thinking that the wink right after it would make it blatantly
obvious that my comment was a light hearted jest.

Schmitt trigger time.. Hysteresis is the word that applies..

--
Dave Johnson -

In within
uk.telecom.broadband, 'Ivor Jones' wrote:

If not liking offensive comments is being oversensitive then that's what I
am. I don't do it to others and I don't expect it to be done to me.

Before now, I have seen a high proportion of a usenet group (or maybe
a mailing list, not sure now), one after the next, call a poster a
'prat' because he threatened to killfile anyone who did so.

The thinking being that they would rather not have their messages read
by an oversensitive pillock, and that it was his loss anyway.


This discussion is becoming tiresome, so I propose to end it here. Just
don't be offensive to me is all I ask. Is that *so* unreasonable..?

Don't take offense over such minor (and friendly) provocation is all I
ask. Is *that* so unreasonable..?


--
Dave Johnson -

Dave J wrote:

[snip]

Don't take offense over such minor (and friendly) provocation is
all I ask. Is *that* so unreasonable..?

Calling someone an idiot isn't friendly in my book.

(Finally) end of discussion.

Ivor

Dave J wrote in
:

Schmitt trigger time.. Hysteresis is the word that applies..

Maybe he's american, they never seem to get the humour of a friendly dig
:0)

--
Colin
*Drop DEAD from the email address to reply*

In article ,
"Ivor Jones" wrote:

Barry Margolin wrote:

[snip]

When you answer questions like these in a technical newsgroup,
you're purporting to have some expertise on the subject. When it
comes out that you don't know a whole lot about the technology,
retorts like that are likely.

Why..?

Why is it necessary to be rude..? Would you call me an idiot to my face..?
Or is it only because you're hiding behind a keyboard..?

Because many people behave differently online than they do in person.
I'm not a psychologist (if you're really interested, read stuff by
people like Sherry Turkle), so I don't know *why*. It's simply a fact,
and if you don't learn to deal with it you'll be very frustrated in your
online experience.

If you don't like it, don't post to Usenet, because it happens all
the time.

Again, why..? Why is it seemingly not possible to have sensible discussion
on Usenet..? Why could someone not simply have explained what I did not
know, rather than calling me an idiot..?

I don't like a lot of things, being called an idiot simply for being
unaware of something is one, being told not to post is another.

You're not an idiot, just less experienced and naturally ignorant of
many details. There are plenty of us who know this stuff well, so
responses by people like you just add noise and confusion, making it
harder for the folks who are trying to find good answers.

--
Barry Margolin,
Arlington, MA

Barry Margolin wrote:
You're not an idiot, just less experienced and naturally ignorant of
many details.

Thankyou. So don't call me one.

Ivor

In article ,
"Ivor Jones" wrote:

Barry Margolin wrote:
You're not an idiot, just less experienced and naturally ignorant of
many details.

Thankyou. So don't call me one.

I didn't, did I? That was someone else.

--
Barry Margolin,
Arlington, MA

Barry Margolin wrote:
In article ,
"Ivor Jones" wrote:

Barry Margolin wrote:
You're not an idiot, just less experienced and naturally ignorant
of many details.

Thankyou. So don't call me one.

I didn't, did I? That was someone else.

I know, I didn't word it well, sorry.

Ivor