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Comparison of Anti-Virus software
On 13/05/2020 23:49, Wolffan wrote:
On 13 May 2020, David_B wrote (in article ): On 12/05/2020 17:10, Snit wrote: On 5/12/20 2:12 AM, Diesel wrote: ... Mike Easter doesn't believe your sober, David. He recently asked if you'd been drinking again. You ignored him just as you have Apd, Shadow, myself, and others. No David, snits method of dealing with people isn't working. He's just as despised as you are, possibly more so. And! One reason is shared between you; you're both very well known liars. Seriously, both of you, well known for this. My method of dealing with your trolling has been at least more effective than most -- you ran off, scared. You are starting to troll me again, though you pretend to not read my posts. No difference: as you troll me I remind you of some of your past idiotic nonsense: -------------------------------------------------------- You made up a claim where I said I would decode things OTHER THAN hex, or that I could decode AZ code on my own. It is a complete and utter fantasy on your part. Either you are lying to yourself or you are lying to me. It does not matter which: either way it is not true. I made no such claim, Snit. I stated that you offered to decode other posts I wrote in HEX if I continued. Ah, so you no longer back these claims of yours: ----- You claimed that you'd decode messages I encoded, if i continued so that David could read them. Well, you thought you'd be able to, anyhow. I was just curious to see if you could do as you thought you could. And, it's pretty obvious by now, you were more than slightly bull****ting about your abilities. ----- You have yet to quote where I said what you attributed to me: that I was claiming to be able to decode ANYTHING other than hex at the time. You made up that claim... and now it is clear you know that. ------ You decoded something I wrote in hex, yes. When you read what it was, you indicated you'd just decode the rest of them for David, going so far as to write a utility to do it for him, if I continued posting in that manner, just to be a dick towards me. So, I decided to see if you could do as you claimed you could. ------ Good to see you understand I never made the claim you lied about me doing here. ------ As I suspected, you couldn't do anything with it. HEX was as far as you were going to be able to go concerning posts I didn't want David reading easily, despite your claim to the contrary. ------ And another example of this lie of yours you now accept is not true. Great! You can see your past lies were, of course, lies. Happy to see it. Keep in mind I knew you were lying the whole time about my having made such a claim. -------------------------------------------------------- Snit isn't who you think he is, David. Your reputation is bad enough without aligning yourself with that learning disabled, severely compromised, hardly literate, idiot. See: you show you are terrified of me and angry with me -- all because I do not respond to your trolling as you wish. ... He makes claims which he cannot support. oh, the sheer irony... :-) Dustin is *NOT* in contact with "my inner circle" as he claims. :-( I believe him. I don’t believe you. Then you really ARE a fool. :-( |
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Comparison of Anti-Virus software
On 5/13/20 3:49 PM, Wolffan wrote:
On 13 May 2020, David_B wrote (in article ): On 12/05/2020 17:10, Snit wrote: On 5/12/20 2:12 AM, Diesel wrote: ... Mike Easter doesn't believe your sober, David. He recently asked if you'd been drinking again. You ignored him just as you have Apd, Shadow, myself, and others. No David, snits method of dealing with people isn't working. He's just as despised as you are, possibly more so. And! One reason is shared between you; you're both very well known liars. Seriously, both of you, well known for this. My method of dealing with your trolling has been at least more effective than most -- you ran off, scared. You are starting to troll me again, though you pretend to not read my posts. No difference: as you troll me I remind you of some of your past idiotic nonsense: -------------------------------------------------------- You made up a claim where I said I would decode things OTHER THAN hex, or that I could decode AZ code on my own. It is a complete and utter fantasy on your part. Either you are lying to yourself or you are lying to me. It does not matter which: either way it is not true. I made no such claim, Snit. I stated that you offered to decode other posts I wrote in HEX if I continued. Ah, so you no longer back these claims of yours: ----- You claimed that you'd decode messages I encoded, if i continued so that David could read them. Well, you thought you'd be able to, anyhow. I was just curious to see if you could do as you thought you could. And, it's pretty obvious by now, you were more than slightly bull****ting about your abilities. ----- You have yet to quote where I said what you attributed to me: that I was claiming to be able to decode ANYTHING other than hex at the time. You made up that claim... and now it is clear you know that. ------ You decoded something I wrote in hex, yes. When you read what it was, you indicated you'd just decode the rest of them for David, going so far as to write a utility to do it for him, if I continued posting in that manner, just to be a dick towards me. So, I decided to see if you could do as you claimed you could. ------ Good to see you understand I never made the claim you lied about me doing here. ------ As I suspected, you couldn't do anything with it. HEX was as far as you were going to be able to go concerning posts I didn't want David reading easily, despite your claim to the contrary. ------ And another example of this lie of yours you now accept is not true. Great! You can see your past lies were, of course, lies. Happy to see it. Keep in mind I knew you were lying the whole time about my having made such a claim. -------------------------------------------------------- Snit isn't who you think he is, David. Your reputation is bad enough without aligning yourself with that learning disabled, severely compromised, hardly literate, idiot. See: you show you are terrified of me and angry with me -- all because I do not respond to your trolling as you wish. ... He makes claims which he cannot support. oh, the sheer irony... How so? Dustin is *NOT* in contact with "my inner circle" as he claims. :-( I believe him. I don’t believe you. You can believe as you wish... but what does the evidence show? THAT is, to me, what is more important. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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Comparison of Anti-Virus software
On 13 May 2020, David_B wrote
(in article ): On 13/05/2020 23:49, Wolffan wrote: On 13 May 2020, David_B wrote (in article ): On 12/05/2020 17:10, Snit wrote: On 5/12/20 2:12 AM, Diesel wrote: ... Mike Easter doesn't believe your sober, David. He recently asked if you'd been drinking again. You ignored him just as you have Apd, Shadow, myself, and others. No David, snits method of dealing with people isn't working. He's just as despised as you are, possibly more so. And! One reason is shared between you; you're both very well known liars. Seriously, both of you, well known for this. My method of dealing with your trolling has been at least more effective than most -- you ran off, scared. You are starting to troll me again, though you pretend to not read my posts. No difference: as you troll me I remind you of some of your past idiotic nonsense: -------------------------------------------------------- You made up a claim where I said I would decode things OTHER THAN hex, or that I could decode AZ code on my own. It is a complete and utter fantasy on your part. Either you are lying to yourself or you are lying to me. It does not matter which: either way it is not true. I made no such claim, Snit. I stated that you offered to decode other posts I wrote in HEX if I continued. Ah, so you no longer back these claims of yours: ----- You claimed that you'd decode messages I encoded, if i continued so that David could read them. Well, you thought you'd be able to, anyhow. I was just curious to see if you could do as you thought you could. And, it's pretty obvious by now, you were more than slightly bull****ting about your abilities. ----- You have yet to quote where I said what you attributed to me: that I was claiming to be able to decode ANYTHING other than hex at the time. You made up that claim... and now it is clear you know that. ------ You decoded something I wrote in hex, yes. When you read what it was, you indicated you'd just decode the rest of them for David, going so far as to write a utility to do it for him, if I continued posting in that manner, just to be a dick towards me. So, I decided to see if you could do as you claimed you could. ------ Good to see you understand I never made the claim you lied about me doing here. ------ As I suspected, you couldn't do anything with it. HEX was as far as you were going to be able to go concerning posts I didn't want David reading easily, despite your claim to the contrary. ------ And another example of this lie of yours you now accept is not true. Great! You can see your past lies were, of course, lies. Happy to see it. Keep in mind I knew you were lying the whole time about my having made such a claim. -------------------------------------------------------- Snit isn't who you think he is, David. Your reputation is bad enough without aligning yourself with that learning disabled, severely compromised, hardly literate, idiot. See: you show you are terrified of me and angry with me -- all because I do not respond to your trolling as you wish. ... He makes claims which he cannot support. oh, the sheer irony... -) Dustin is *NOT* in contact with "my inner circle" as he claims. :-( I believe him. I don’t believe you. Then you really ARE a fool. :-( you have repeatedly been caught lying. you have lied about _me_. you are _considerably_ less trustworthy than he is. There is no reason to believe anything at all that you post. |
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Comparison of Anti-Virus software
Ken Blake
Tue, 12 May 2020 16:11:37 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: Wasted? Not to me. You've substantially reduced the risk, and that's well worth doing. Hmm. Do you think malware works like magic or something? Infact, if it's an executable infector, it could just wait for your av/am to open files to scan and infect them when it sees file handle release api call. Your av/am will open alot more files, much more frequently, and the malware doesn't even have to waste code for search routines, it can let your trusted security dog do the searching for you. What i've explained isn't theortical, or proof of concept with nothing in the wild having done it. It has been done, it continues to be done. It's a tried and true trick, infact. Works as long as your code doesn't become known to av/am. You forgot backups. No, I didn't. To me, it's also something very different. As long as I can remember, backups is part of the safe hex routine. It's not something very different. Remember: jesus saves, but only budda makes incremental backups. If you care about it, back it up. Of course. I didn't suggest otherwise. The only disagreement we have here is regarding the terminology. The terminology? Hmm. Please explain, if you wouldn't mind. NO AV/AM or any other kind of safe hex is going to save you from hardware failure. And even in this day and age, you have a higher risk of losing data due to user error and/or hardware failure than you actually do malware. I'm not sure whether that risk is higher or not, but it's a significant enough risk that regular backup is extremely important. I'd have to say that in fairness, despite making some good money cleaning up from malware issues, hard drive failure is still more common. Especially with laptops that aren't treated with the due care they should be by their owners. And busted power connectors. Malware plays a role, don't get me wrong, but I see more equipment failure and user caused damage in the hardware than I do see an actual malware issue these days. -- Peter is listening to "Hollywood Undead - Turn Out The Lights" |
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David_B
Tue, 12 May 2020 08:52:03 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: *WHY THAT LONG PATH*? Anyone know? -------------------- *Question*! It's a conspiracy, to **** with you. We're all in on it, too. With multiple server admins blessing. You believe that too, right, moron? -- Cats have purr-sonality. =^..^= |
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David_B
Wed, 13 May 2020 05:52:53 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: [snip] He makes claims which he cannot support. Such as? Dustin is *NOT* in contact with "my inner circle" as he claims. :-( So, explain why I know about your lost friendship over your drinking problem. You gave me an entirely different side of the story when you provided your side, btw. Since you didn't mention that person on usenet prior to my accusation (hahah), and I didn't get that info from you via email; where else would I get it? Obviously, *drum roll* from people YOU KNOW IN REAL LIFE outside of usenet. Think about the people you know in person that you gave information about me to when you were soliciting their help. One or more of them reached out to me, instead, David. Does that help you with the leak in your inner circle? You sent them to me! I told you this, when I first disclosed some dirt on you, remember? And while you're trying to explain that, how about an explanation for your accusation that I hacked your computer(s) and stole copies of one or more of your personal files? Do you have some kind of journal on your machine(s) David? Why are you having such a hard time with these questions, if I'm lying as you claim, David? *BIG ****ING GRIN* -- If you want the best seat in the house, move the cat. |
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Comparison of Anti-Virus software
Wolffan
rnews.com Wed, 13 May 2020 22:49:51 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: On 13 May 2020, David_B wrote [snip] He makes claims which he cannot support. oh, the sheer irony... Dustin is *NOT* in contact with "my inner circle" as he claims. :-( I believe him. I don't believe you. It's obvious to everyone that I am, when I disclose things I would have no way of knowing otherwise, isn't it? Like, for example, the loss of a friendship that he can't fix, due to a drinking issue; despite his claim of it being financial in nature. How would I know anything about that, if one or more people he knows, in person!, didn't tell me? It's not like that information can be found via a google search now can it? David even wrote about his side of the story when I brought it up, after he accused me of hacking into his computer(s) to learn about it. He accused me of taking copies of his personal files. Wouldn't be specific, I asked if he had a journal; wouldn't ever tell me. -- Anything currently on the market is obsolete. |
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Wolffan
rnews.com Thu, 14 May 2020 04:09:52 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: On 13 May 2020, David_B wrote [snip] Dustin is *NOT* in contact with "my inner circle" as he claims. :-( I believe him. I don’t believe you. Then you really ARE a fool. :-( you have repeatedly been caught lying. you have lied about _me_. you are _considerably_ less trustworthy than he is. There is no reason to believe anything at all that you post. HAHAHA! Oh, the irony! I'm a former BLACKHAT who's more trustworthy than David. granted, that doesn't mean much, because pondscum has a better trust value, but, I digress. -- The reason women don't play football is because 11 of them would never wear the same outfit in public. |
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On 14/05/2020 02:31, Snit wrote:
On 5/13/20 3:49 PM, Wolffan wrote: On 13 May 2020, David_B wrote (in article ): On 12/05/2020 17:10, Snit wrote: On 5/12/20 2:12 AM, Diesel wrote: ... Mike Easter doesn't believe your sober, David. He recently asked if you'd been drinking again. You ignored him just as you have Apd, Shadow, myself, and others. No David, snits method of dealing with people isn't working. He's just as despised as you are, possibly more so. And! One reason is shared between you; you're both very well known liars. Seriously, both of you, well known for this. My method of dealing with your trolling has been at least more effective than most -- you ran off, scared. You are starting to troll me again, though you pretend to not read my posts. No difference: as you troll me I remind you of some of your past idiotic nonsense: -------------------------------------------------------- You made up a claim where I said I would decode things OTHER THAN hex, or that I could decode AZ code on my own. It is a complete and utter fantasy on your part. Either you are lying to yourself or you are lying to me. It does not matter which: either way it is not true. I made no such claim, Snit. I stated that you offered to decode other posts I wrote in HEX if I continued. Ah, so you no longer back these claims of yours: ----- You claimed that you'd decode messages I encoded, if i continued so that David could read them. Well, you thought you'd be able to, anyhow. I was just curious to see if you could do as you thought you could. And, it's pretty obvious by now, you were more than slightly bull****ting about your abilities. ----- You have yet to quote where I said what you attributed to me: that I was claiming to be able to decode ANYTHING other than hex at the time. You made up that claim... and now it is clear you know that. ------ You decoded something I wrote in hex, yes. When you read what it was, you indicated you'd just decode the rest of them for David, going so far as to write a utility to do it for him, if I continued posting in that manner, just to be a dick towards me. So, I decided to see if you could do as you claimed you could. ------ Good to see you understand I never made the claim you lied about me doing here. ------ As I suspected, you couldn't do anything with it. HEX was as far as you were going to be able to go concerning posts I didn't want David reading easily, despite your claim to the contrary. ------ And another example of this lie of yours you now accept is not true. Great! You can see your past lies were, of course, lies. Happy to see it. Keep in mind I knew you were lying the whole time about my having made such a claim. -------------------------------------------------------- Snit isn't who you think he is, David. Your reputation is bad enough without aligning yourself with that learning disabled, severely compromised, hardly literate, idiot. See: you show you are terrified of me and angry with me -- all because I do not respond to your trolling as you wish. ... He makes claims which he cannot support. oh, the sheer irony... How so? Dustin is *NOT* in contact with "my inner circle" as he claims. :-( I believe him. I don’t believe you. You can believe as you wish... but what does the evidence show? THAT is, to me, what is more important. Some 'techie' folk seem to lack ANY sense of humour - ESPECIALLY 'foreigners'! ;-) I'm 'old school' British - brought up with Alf Garnett! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQQ5H5r3Ev0 |
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David_B
Thu, 14 May 2020 06:56:39 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: On 14/05/2020 02:31, Snit wrote: On 5/13/20 3:49 PM, Wolffan wrote: On 13 May 2020, David_B wrote (in article ): On 12/05/2020 17:10, Snit wrote: On 5/12/20 2:12 AM, Diesel wrote: ... Mike Easter doesn't believe your sober, David. He recently asked if you'd been drinking again. You ignored him just as you have Apd, Shadow, myself, and others. No David, snits method of dealing with people isn't working. He's just as despised as you are, possibly more so. And! One reason is shared between you; you're both very well known liars. Seriously, both of you, well known for this. My method of dealing with your trolling has been at least more effective than most -- you ran off, scared. You are starting to troll me again, though you pretend to not read my posts. No difference: as you troll me I remind you of some of your past idiotic nonsense: -------------------------------------------------------- You made up a claim where I said I would decode things OTHER THAN hex, or that I could decode AZ code on my own. It is a complete and utter fantasy on your part. Either you are lying to yourself or you are lying to me. It does not matter which: either way it is not true. I made no such claim, Snit. I stated that you offered to decode other posts I wrote in HEX if I continued. Ah, so you no longer back these claims of yours: ----- You claimed that you'd decode messages I encoded, if i continued so that David could read them. Well, you thought you'd be able to, anyhow. I was just curious to see if you could do as you thought you could. And, it's pretty obvious by now, you were more than slightly bull****ting about your abilities. ----- You have yet to quote where I said what you attributed to me: that I was claiming to be able to decode ANYTHING other than hex at the time. You made up that claim... and now it is clear you know that. ------ You decoded something I wrote in hex, yes. When you read what it was, you indicated you'd just decode the rest of them for David, going so far as to write a utility to do it for him, if I continued posting in that manner, just to be a dick towards me. So, I decided to see if you could do as you claimed you could. ------ Good to see you understand I never made the claim you lied about me doing here. ------ As I suspected, you couldn't do anything with it. HEX was as far as you were going to be able to go concerning posts I didn't want David reading easily, despite your claim to the contrary. ------ And another example of this lie of yours you now accept is not true. Great! You can see your past lies were, of course, lies. Happy to see it. Keep in mind I knew you were lying the whole time about my having made such a claim. -------------------------------------------------------- Snit isn't who you think he is, David. Your reputation is bad enough without aligning yourself with that learning disabled, severely compromised, hardly literate, idiot. See: you show you are terrified of me and angry with me -- all because I do not respond to your trolling as you wish. ... He makes claims which he cannot support. oh, the sheer irony... How so? Dustin is *NOT* in contact with "my inner circle" as he claims. :-( I believe him. I don’t believe you. You can believe as you wish... but what does the evidence show? THAT is, to me, what is more important. Some 'techie' folk seem to lack ANY sense of humour - ESPECIALLY 'foreigners'! ;-) What does your statement have to do with what's been written, David? Are you going to try and play your accusation of my hacking into your computers as a joke, then? Was I getting too close with the journal question? And, the proper term for what you accused me of would be cracking, David. There's a difference, and, no, I'm not surprised you forget it, again. I'm 'old school' British - brought up with Alf Garnett! You're a disgrace to the British people, actually. There's nothing old school or otherwise respectable about you, David. -- When cows laugh, does milk come out of their nose? |
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Nym-shifting third world troll...
-- Jenny Telia wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.unit0.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jenny Telia Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Comparison of Anti-Virus software Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 14:40:33 +0200 Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net fW+zCVAzNEtKTCLXdt/RBgv43u64iw4/M0aZrjXQBX18Vxil0X Cancel-Lock: sha1:hh7urttk0lIXhIf9ss/acrpFmDY= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org alt.computer.workshop:43271 alt.comp.os.windows-10:117694 uk.comp.sys.mac:159029 comp.sys.mac.system:184315 On 07/05/2020 11:57, David_B wrote: Here's a huge table from Wikipedia ..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...virus_software It's well worth a look! No mention, though, of ClamXav. No one is interested in your genital diseases. Now clam orf. |
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