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Old February 11th 16, 11:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Wolfie[_3_]
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...3d2ec07593f“

"There is no such thing as a free lunch” has been the mantra of those
cynical about the true cost of ‘free’ Windows 10. But as Microsoft increases
pressure on users to upgrade, it turns out the real cost of Windows 10 lies
somewhere far less expected". MORE...Read


I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then, it
will be "Sayonara Windows".

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Old February 12th 16, 12:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-02-11, Wolfie wrote:
I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then, it
will be "Sayonara Windows".


Not likely. Microsoft's real lock-in is the applications that run on
Windows, particularly Office. Applications from 3rd parties also insure
that Windows remains the top choice. If you need an off-the-shelf business
application chances are you will need to run Windows. (Most users
don't care about the operating system, many are even unaware of the
concept. They just know that they are using "Microsoft.") Even moving to a
Mac means swimming against the current.

Unless a replacement is 100% bug-for-bug compatible, Windows will be
with us for a long time to come.

That's the case for desktop systems. On the server end of course it is
a different story.

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Old February 12th 16, 02:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
ray carter
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:34:35 -0500, Wolfie wrote:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...ndows-10-true-

cost/#43d2ec07593f“

"There is no such thing as a free lunch” has been the mantra of those
cynical about the true cost of ‘free’ Windows 10. But as Microsoft
increases pressure on users to upgrade, it turns out the real cost of
Windows 10 lies somewhere far less expected". MORE...Read


I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then,
it will be "Sayonara Windows".


Red Flag.
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Old February 12th 16, 04:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Wolfie wrote on 2016/02/11:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...3d2ec07593f“


Although dated Feb 5, 2016, all the snippets of information are old.
It's just another bitch article, a personal blog disguised as news.

"There is no such thing as a free lunch” has been the mantra of those
cynical about the true cost of ‘free’ Windows 10. But as Microsoft increases
pressure on users to upgrade, it turns out the real cost of Windows 10 lies
somewhere far less expected". MORE...Read

I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, ...


Google's Chrome OS is based on Linux. So why do you think that you have
to wait to move to a Linux-based OS? You can do that today. Unless
Microsoft amends many of its rude behaviors in Windows 10, Linux will be
where I go on my next computer build. Doesn't matter if Microsoft
extends their free offer for another year or indefinitely. Free or paid
is not the issue for adoption (for me).

... or one from the Chinese. And then, it will be "Sayonara Windows".


Cute. Likely that would just be another Linux kernel variant and you
can switch to Linux today. No waiting required.

Despite your public lamentations here, I strongly suspect you will
continue using Windows (either what you have now or you will move to
Win10). Hell, you're still using Microsoft's defective WLM product to
post here. Those that make vacuous threats here never carry through.
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Old February 12th 16, 04:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:34:35 -0500, "Wolfie"
wrote:

I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then, it
will be "Sayonara Windows".




"Sayonara" is Japanese, not Chinese. g

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Old February 12th 16, 07:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:34:35 -0500, "Wolfie"
wrote:

I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then, it
will be "Sayonara Windows".




"Sayonara" is Japanese, not Chinese. g


Maybe he should have used an English expression such as

"Curtains Windows"

Paul
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Old February 12th 16, 09:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_4_]
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Wolfie wrote:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...3d2ec07593f“


You'll notice that the original article on Voat that Forbes links to has
been deleted and the user account deleted too ..


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Old February 12th 16, 10:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Andy Burns wrote:
Wolfie wrote:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...3d2ec07593f“


You'll notice that the original article on Voat that Forbes links to has
been deleted and the user account deleted too ..


Yeah, the Microsoft hit squad got him.
Redmond Ninjas.

This proved why we need telemetry.

Paul

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Old February 12th 16, 10:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Andy Burns wrote:
Wolfie wrote:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...3d2ec07593f“


You'll notice that the original article on Voat that Forbes links to has
been deleted and the user account deleted too ..



And this is the sort of thing a Redmond Ninja would
wave in front of a perps face.

https://www.eff.org/issues/coders/re...ngineering-faq

That individual on Voat, wasn't there for just the one day.
There's another thread, where he presented a script of KBs
to remove, done some time ago. So this wasn't as if someone
parachuted in to drop one message and leave. The Forbes article
probably set the wheels in motion.

Paul
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Old February 12th 16, 01:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:34:35 -0500, Wolfie wrote:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...ndows-10-true-

cost/#43d2ec07593f“

"There is no such thing as a free lunch” has been the mantra of those
cynical about the true cost of ‘free’ Windows 10. But as Microsoft
increases pressure on users to upgrade, it turns out the real cost of
Windows 10 lies somewhere far less expected". MORE...Read


I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then,
it will be "Sayonara Windows".


This is another post in which the poster ignores the split between
typical home or small business user and large corporations (or even
smaller ones). These latter folks use hundreds of work stations, employ
IT personal to maintain them and have training classes for the users.
Just updating is a pain, to switch OS a nightmare. We've seen all this
before when competitors to IBM came and went (Honeywell, RCA etc.) IT
people in a large enterprise are very wary of trying new things.
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Old February 12th 16, 03:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mike[_10_]
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Default Window is on borrowed time

On 2/12/2016 4:20 AM, Dave C wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:34:35 -0500, Wolfie wrote:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...ndows-10-true-

cost/#43d2ec07593f“

"There is no such thing as a free lunch” has been the mantra of those
cynical about the true cost of ‘free’ Windows 10. But as Microsoft
increases pressure on users to upgrade, it turns out the real cost of
Windows 10 lies somewhere far less expected". MORE...Read


I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then,
it will be "Sayonara Windows".


This is another post in which the poster ignores the split between
typical home or small business user and large corporations (or even
smaller ones). These latter folks use hundreds of work stations, employ
IT personal to maintain them and have training classes for the users.
Just updating is a pain, to switch OS a nightmare. We've seen all this
before when competitors to IBM came and went (Honeywell, RCA etc.) IT
people in a large enterprise are very wary of trying new things.

Especially when those new things come from a nebulous, random,
bunch of individuals careening all over the map.

Some find comfort in using stuff that comes from a place
with a business name and a real address and a legal department
and some organized vision and commitment
to support and making everything just work.

As soon as desktop linux comes together to create a "BRAND", the world
will follow.
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Old February 12th 16, 03:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bucky Breeder[_4_]
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Wolfie posted this via
:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...dows-10-true-c
ost/#43d2ec07593f“

"There is no such thing as a free lunch” has been the mantra of those
cynical about the true cost of ‘free’ Windows 10. But as Microsoft
increases pressure on users to upgrade, it turns out the real cost of
Windows 10 lies somewhere far less expected". MORE...Read


I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then,
it will be "Sayonara Windows".


Windows 10 is the BEST version of Windows ever!

(Resistance is futile.) (Also, Cortana tickles my balls to induce me to
say that...)

The quicker all the older versions of Windows upgrade to Windows 10 the
quicker all this complaining about upgrading to Windows 10 will turn into
citizens doing more productive endeavors, like upgrading other computers to
Windows 10 until it's all Windows 10 and everybody likes it. Also, we
won't have to listen-to or read all these complaints about upgrading to
Windows 10 because everybody will already be assimilated. World peace
through Windows 10!

HTH.

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Old February 12th 16, 06:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-02-11 10:29 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:34:35 -0500, "Wolfie"
wrote:

I'm waiting for a Google desktop OS, or one from the Chinese. And then, it
will be "Sayonara Windows".




"Sayonara" is Japanese, not Chinese. g


People think that anyone who has slanted eyes knows everyone else that
has slanted eyes.


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Old February 12th 16, 06:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-02-12 10:51 AM, burfordTjustice wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:34:35 -0500
"Wolfie" wrote:

From: "Wolfie"
Subject: Window is on borrowed time
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:34:35 -0500
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331


Yahoo is going to die first.


And soon. Nobody uses it anymore. Not their e-mail service, not its
news, not its instant messenger and definitely not its search engine. It
truly has no reason to exist anymore.


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him seriously.
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Old February 12th 16, 06:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In message , Wolf K
writes
As soon as desktop linux comes together to create a "BRAND", the world
will follow.


Too late for that. Android has done it, but it runs on smartphones and
tablets, not desktops. NB that only techie nerds know (or care) that
it's a Linux. More smartphones run on it than on iOS.

But Android, at least up to the 4.4 that I've reached, is a real mess on
the mobiles I've tried. It works, but the interface is erratic between
versions and nowhere near as solid feeling as the competitors. It's not
too bad on a phablet, but who wants to hold a great lump like that to
their ear as a phone.

The desktop will survive as a workstation, but for most people, the
computing device of choice will be whatever evolves as smartphone and
tablet converge. Both are already implicated in all kinds of neat
gadgets, eg, I saw an electronic lock that's configured automatically
with a smartphone, total installation time about 15-20 minutes. It will
unlock if it senses the smartphone "nearby". Or not, depending. It can
be configured to give selected people, such as dog-walkers, access to
the house at programmed times via their smartphones. Etc. You can't do
that with a desktop....


I've been trying a Windows 8.1 Phone and have been very surprised how
good it is. In contrast, my W8.1 tablet running the full wimboot version
of the OS has to be the most annoying computing device that I've used in
years.
I'm hoping to try a Blackberry phone soon, as I find the Playbook
interface really good.

Microsoft's huge mistake has been to try to converge Phone and PC.

Anyone know if you can run proper programs, as opposed to apps on a W8.1
Phone?
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