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Old August 6th 20, 06:29 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Commander Kinsey
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Found it. To prevent adblocker detection, disable javascript for that site. In Opera you click the padlock to the left of the URL. I think all browsers are the same.
Ads
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Old August 6th 20, 06:45 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
* Found it.* To prevent adblocker detection, disable javascript for that
site.* In Opera you click the padlock to the left of the URL.* I think
all browsers are the same.


Yes, but some sites have a counter for that strategy...JavaScript
injected content. You don't get the adblocker warning but you also don't
get the content.

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Old August 6th 20, 07:11 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 18:45:01 +0100, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Found it. To prevent adblocker detection, disable javascript for that
site. In Opera you click the padlock to the left of the URL. I think
all browsers are the same.


Yes, but some sites have a counter for that strategy...JavaScript
injected content. You don't get the adblocker warning but you also don't
get the content.


Then they can shove their content up their arse.
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Old August 6th 20, 07:15 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 8/6/2020 10:29 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
* Found it.* To prevent adblocker detection, disable javascript for
that site.* In Opera you click the padlock to the left of the URL.* I
think all browsers are the same.


I don't go to the opera.
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Old August 6th 20, 07:20 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Commander Kinsey
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:15:10 +0100, Rod wrote:

On 8/6/2020 10:29 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Found it. To prevent adblocker detection, disable javascript for
that site. In Opera you click the padlock to the left of the URL. I
think all browsers are the same.


I don't go to the opera.


Lost your speed?
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Old August 6th 20, 07:31 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 18:45:01 +0100, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Â* Found it.Â* To prevent adblocker detection, disable javascript for that
site.


Kinsey and I discussed this last year.

In Opera you click the padlock to the left of the URL.Â* I think
all browsers are the same.


Yes, but some sites have a counter for that strategy...JavaScript
injected content. You don't get the adblocker warning but you also don't
get the content.


Kinsey and I also discussed this last year.

Then they can shove their content up their arse.


Last year, Kinsey did not want to forgo our advertising-funded content.


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Old August 6th 20, 07:48 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Jonathan N. Little" wrote

| Yes, but some sites have a counter for that strategy...JavaScript
| injected content. You don't get the adblocker warning but you also don't
| get the content.
|

Yes, it's an arms war. I think blocking ads is much
more easily done with a HOSTS file. But I also rarely
enable javascript. Very rarely. Yet what you say is
true. I find some sites are blank without script or
have big blocks over the content. At those sites I
turn off CSS. Other sites try to block links from
working by doing things like putting ptransparent objects
on top of them. With those I also disable CSS. Still
other sites actually put the webpage itself inside JSON
blocks. Those simply won't work at all without script.
Some sites mess up image tags by trying to sniff
screen size to pick the image to show, but then leaving
no default image for people not using script.

Some of it is sneaky. Much of it is simply incompetence
on the part of webmasters who don't realize that some
people are not enabling script.


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Old August 6th 20, 08:03 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Mayayana
wrote:

Some of it is sneaky. Much of it is simply incompetence
on the part of webmasters who don't realize that some
people are not enabling script.


very few, definitely not enough to justify catering to them.
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Old August 6th 20, 08:16 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 06/08/2020 21.03, nospam wrote:
In article , Mayayana
wrote:

Some of it is sneaky. Much of it is simply incompetence
on the part of webmasters who don't realize that some
people are not enabling script.


very few, definitely not enough to justify catering to them.


What about blind people? Graphic content is of no use to them.

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Old August 6th 20, 08:28 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

Some of it is sneaky. Much of it is simply incompetence
on the part of webmasters who don't realize that some
people are not enabling script.


very few, definitely not enough to justify catering to them.


What about blind people? Graphic content is of no use to them.


they don't disable javascript.

they also use screen readers, which can read not only the article, but
also the alt tags that describe the images. in some cases, the actual
content of the images can be determined and described, even without alt
tags.
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Old August 6th 20, 08:31 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:31:15 +0100, CoMmAnDoTrOn wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 18:45:01 +0100, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Found it. To prevent adblocker detection, disable javascript for that
site.


Kinsey and I discussed this last year.


I am Kinsey you moron.

In Opera you click the padlock to the left of the URL. I think
all browsers are the same.

Yes, but some sites have a counter for that strategy...JavaScript
injected content. You don't get the adblocker warning but you also don't
get the content.


Kinsey and I also discussed this last year.


Well it didn't work when you mentioned it. Or more likely you didn't inform me it was possible to do it per site.

Then they can shove their content up their arse.


Last year, Kinsey did not want to forgo our advertising-funded content.


Bull****. I want no adverts whatsoever.
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Old August 6th 20, 08:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Mayayana" wrote:

turn off CSS. Other sites try to block links from
working by doing things like putting ptransparent objects
on top of them.


Using CSS to customize webpages, sometimes several top layers must be
removed before getting to the object of interest. I keep count of the
number of overlying objects removed before getting to the object of
interest, then edit the CSS file to delete that number of prior
overlying object selectors. I had not considered that foul play, I just
figured it was part of the programming.

Most annoying is when they use what appear to be random numbers for CSS
object selectors. Strangely, seems they do that for some other reason
than to thwart ad-blocking.
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Old August 6th 20, 08:34 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:48:59 +0100, Mayayana wrote:

"Jonathan N. Little" wrote

| Yes, but some sites have a counter for that strategy...JavaScript
| injected content. You don't get the adblocker warning but you also don't
| get the content.
|

Yes, it's an arms war. I think blocking ads is much
more easily done with a HOSTS file.


How can that work when the ads are stored on the same server as the content?

But I also rarely enable javascript. Very rarely.


Almost every site I use needs it for something, I don't want to disable it all over.

Yet what you say is
true. I find some sites are blank without script or
have big blocks over the content. At those sites I
turn off CSS. Other sites try to block links from
working by doing things like putting ptransparent objects
on top of them. With those I also disable CSS. Still
other sites actually put the webpage itself inside JSON
blocks. Those simply won't work at all without script.
Some sites mess up image tags by trying to sniff
screen size to pick the image to show, but then leaving
no default image for people not using script.

Some of it is sneaky. Much of it is simply incompetence
on the part of webmasters who don't realize that some
people are not enabling script.


If I can't get through their blocks quickly, I send them an email with swearwords in it.
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Old August 6th 20, 09:14 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Carlos E.R." wrote

| What about blind people? Graphic content is of no use to them.


I used to have a blind friend who I helped. It's
difficult for them. Probably more so with the extreme
use of script. But I don't know for sure. Typically they
would disable images altogether in order to save on
load time.

It might be that they'd be better off with no style.
It's tricky. Screen readers depend on being able to
parse the document object model. And the elements have
to work properly. What happens when a DIV is covering
a link in order to thwart people wiyth script disabled?
Can a screendreader see the link? Maybe. Maybe not.

One of the worst sites for my friend
was a site especially for the blind where he could borrow
books (or maybe it was music) for free. Each item could
be downloaded invarious formats. But to select the format
one has to click the dropdown menu and then click on the
preferred format. The dropdown didn't handle down arrow.
So you click the dropdown, down arrow, then it closes.
Impossible to use. Why didn't they just put several
plain links? Incompetence. They were trying to be clever.

On the other hand, most sites now expect to make some
kind of money from each visitor. They plan to sell your
personal data and/or show you ads. Many feel you have no
right to load their website if you don't see ads! They don't
realize they've just put the saite in a publicly accessible
place. Those people probably couldn't care less if a blind
person can read their pages, except to avoid lawsuits.
They have the same attitude nospam espouses: No effort
is justified if it doesn't pay money. The days of websites
designed to work well are long gone.


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Old August 6th 20, 09:21 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Mayayana
wrote:

Those people probably couldn't care less if a blind
person can read their pages, except to avoid lawsuits.


many web sites as well as apps are designed so that visually impaired
people can easily use them.

They have the same attitude nospam espouses: No effort
is justified if it doesn't pay money.


as usual, you didn't understand what i said.

The days of websites
designed to work well are long gone.


not at all true. nearly all modern websites work quite well, assuming
the user doesn't intentionally take action to cause them to fail, one
of which is turning off javascript.
 




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