good cheap/free PDF to Word converter required

Wolffan wrote:

On 13 May 2020, VanguardLH wrote
(in article ):

Wolffan wrote:

From Wolffan's headers in his reply:

References:0001HW.246C2FFA0051C54470000B80538F@ne ws.supernews.com

That MID (Message ID) is for Wolffan's starter post.

Wolffan wrote (in
upernews.com):

Even Wolffan's attribution line in his reply shows Wolffan replied to
himself.

Wolffan asks for help

no-one sane clicks on your links, troll-boy.

You're calling yourself a troll? You replied to yourself.

The Hog barfed and a reply to troll-boy Brooks went to me instead. Even the
troll-boy knew it, he replied to it... before you did, so you hads a chance
to read his reply. given that... hold on to a plonk.

I filter out nymshifting Boater Dave.

On Wed, 13 May 2020 09:39:06 -0400, Wolffan
wrote:


I currently have Adobe Acrobat 11, from before it was sharecropped, on some
older systems, Mac, Win 7. Acrobat 11 is no longer supported, and hasn’t
been supported for a Very Long Time. Acrobat 11 doesn’t work on the latest
versions of Win10 and macOS. I am NOT sharecropping Acrobat DC, at
$15/month/machine; that’s never happening. I need something which will

1 convert PDFs to DOC or DOCX, without page restrictions (some converters
have a 5, or even 3, page limit unless you sharecrop them; I’m looking at
_you_, WPS.)

2 scan in printed documents to PDF, again without restrictions

3 either be free, or reasonably priced, WITH NO BLOODY SHARECROP RENTAL
BULL****. I’m willing to pay, if necessary. I’m not willing to rent.


One program that might serve your requirements is Ashampoo PDF Pro 2 -
which is available at

https://www.ashampoo.com/en/usd/pin/...ware/pdf-pro-2

and the download version is currently selling for $30 for 3 users in
the same household.

On 13 May 2020, Monty wrote
(in ):

On Wed, 13 May 2020 09:39:06 -0400,
wrote:


I currently have Adobe Acrobat 11, from before it was sharecropped, on some
older systems, Mac, Win 7. Acrobat 11 is no longer supported, and hasn’t
been supported for a Very Long Time. Acrobat 11 doesn’t work on the latest
versions of Win10 and macOS. I am NOT sharecropping Acrobat DC, at
$15/month/machine; that’s never happening. I need something which will

1 convert PDFs to DOC or DOCX, without page restrictions (some converters
have a 5, or even 3, page limit unless you sharecrop them; I’m looking at
_you_, WPS.)

2 scan in printed documents to PDF, again without restrictions

3 either be free, or reasonably priced, WITH NO BLOODY SHARECROP RENTAL
BULL****. I’m willing to pay, if necessary. I’m not willing to rent.

One program that might serve your requirements is Ashampoo PDF Pro 2 -
which is available at

https://www.ashampoo.com/en/usd/pin/...ware/pdf-pro-2

and the download version is currently selling for $30 for 3 users in
the same household.

thanks. will have a look

In response to what Shadow wrote :

I feel tempted to KF Vanguard, but sometimes his posts make a
good book.

It's hard to read Vanguard, just as it's hard to read Paul, and certainly
often hard to read my posts - but here's the thing... almost all posts by
the three of us is well meant, detailed, and honest.

And, oh, by the way, almost always, if not always "correct" as a result.

The OP, on the other hand, is an utter ignorant moron, who often (extremely
often) posts with absolutely zero purposefully helpful intent whatsoever.

Sometimes I can't tell if you're a troll either, Shadow (pooh, Diesel, John
C. and the rest), but I know the OP is a worthless piece of **** from past
experience who is not worth even a split second of my valuable time.

In fact, when I saw the subject, I was going to answer it, until I realized
who the OP is, and then I realized it would be a waste of my valuable time.
--
HINT: I've used "pdftooffice" by recosoft for years, which works
"reasonably well" to convert PDF to Word and/or PowerPoint.
https://www.recosoft.com/

In response to what Wolffan wrote :
While the OP, Wolffan, is a known worthless piece of **** (on the level of
Snit, Diesel, Sn!pe, Colonel Ednumd J. Burke, Nomen Nescio, et al.), the
users who invest their valuable time trying to help him should simply know
the OP already spammed the universe with this thread.
o https://comp.mac.sys.narkive.com
o https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-system
o https://comp.sys.mac.systems.narkive.com
o https://tinyurl.com/uk-comp-sys-mac
o https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com
o https://tinyurl.com/alt-computer-workshop
o https://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
o https://alt.windows7.general.narkive.com
--
(and very probably far more)

On 13/05/2020 16:33, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 5/13/2020 9:39 AM, Wolffan wrote:

I currently have Adobe Acrobat 11, from before it was sharecropped, on
some
older systems, Mac, Win 7. Acrobat 11 is no longer supported, and hasn’t
been supported for a Very Long Time. Acrobat 11 doesn’t work on the
latest
versions of Win10 and macOS. I am NOT sharecropping Acrobat DC, at
$15/month/machine; that’s never happening. I need something which will

1 convert PDFs to DOC or DOCX, without page restrictions (some converters
have a 5, or even 3, page limit unless you sharecrop them; I’m looking at
_you_, WPS.)

2 scan in printed documents to PDF, again without restrictions

3 either be free, or reasonably priced, WITH NO BLOODY SHARECROP RENTAL
BULL****. I’m willing to pay, if necessary. I’m not willing to rent.

I think MS Word itself can open up PDF files by itself. You can then
resave it into any of the file formats that Word supports.


Â*Dang,Â* Yousuf! Thank you. I've been using 'PDF Shaper' to do things
like that until now. It turns out it was in Word all the time? (I'm
still on Word 2013.)

On 5/16/2020 6:35 AM, occam wrote:
Â*Dang,Â* Yousuf! Thank you. I've been using 'PDF Shaper' to do things
like that until now. It turns out it was in Word all the time? (I'm
still on Word 2013.)

It's hard to say how long Word must've had it. I just went from Word
2007 to 2016 recently. I'm not sure if 2007 had it or not. Oh wait, I
think I still have 2007 loaded in my laptop, I'll go check... Nope! Word
2007 didn't have it. So it came somewhere between 2007 and 2016, so
perhaps 2013 is as good a version as any, I suppose?

Yousuf Khan

occam wrote:
On 13/05/2020 16:33, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 5/13/2020 9:39 AM, Wolffan wrote:
I currently have Adobe Acrobat 11, from before it was sharecropped, on
some
older systems, Mac, Win 7. Acrobat 11 is no longer supported, and hasn’t
been supported for a Very Long Time. Acrobat 11 doesn’t work on the
latest
versions of Win10 and macOS. I am NOT sharecropping Acrobat DC, at
$15/month/machine; that’s never happening. I need something which will

1 convert PDFs to DOC or DOCX, without page restrictions (some converters
have a 5, or even 3, page limit unless you sharecrop them; I’m looking at
_you_, WPS.)

2 scan in printed documents to PDF, again without restrictions

3 either be free, or reasonably priced, WITH NO BLOODY SHARECROP RENTAL
BULL****. I’m willing to pay, if necessary. I’m not willing to rent.
I think MS Word itself can open up PDF files by itself. You can then
resave it into any of the file formats that Word supports.


Dang, Yousuf! Thank you. I've been using 'PDF Shaper' to do things
like that until now. It turns out it was in Word all the time? (I'm
still on Word 2013.)


https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-...nd-image-files

"As of Word 2013 (released in 2012), Microsoft has offered a function
called PDF Reflow. It does what you expect. In Word, you go to the
File tab, select open, select any PDF File, and open it right up for
editing, as if it was a Word DOCX file.

There are limitations, however. The PDF you open in Word will have all
the content, but it probably won't look exactly right."

No ****.

That's the way it is with computers.

Whereas "embedding" a document, doesn't disturb the item,
but also doesn't allow editing it either.

These are the things that make DTP so much fun.

Paul

On 5/16/2020 8:31 AM, Paul wrote:
https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-...nd-image-files


Â*Â* "As of Word 2013 (released in 2012), Microsoft has offered a function
Â*Â*Â* called PDF Reflow. It does what you expect. In Word, you go to the
Â*Â*Â* File tab, select open, select any PDF File, and open it right up for
Â*Â*Â* editing, as if it was a Word DOCX file.

Â*Â*Â* There are limitations, however. The PDF you open in Word will have all
Â*Â*Â* the content, but it probably won't look exactly right."

No ****.

That's the way it is with computers.

Whereas "embedding" a document, doesn't disturb the item,
but also doesn't allow editing it either.

These are the things that make DTP so much fun.

I was on Office 2007 for a long, long time. When I upgraded to Office
2016, as my next upgrade, I really couldn't see much difference, all of
the native files remained exactly the same, and could easily be passed
back and forth from the newer Office to the older Office. So it seemed
like a useless upgrade. But I guess being able to edit PDF's is a
tangible benefit, even if it isn't a perfect conversion.

Yousuf Khan

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 5/16/2020 8:31 AM, Paul wrote:
https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-...nd-image-files


** "As of Word 2013 (released in 2012), Microsoft has offered a function
*** called PDF Reflow. It does what you expect. In Word, you go to the
*** File tab, select open, select any PDF File, and open it right up for
*** editing, as if it was a Word DOCX file.

*** There are limitations, however. The PDF you open in Word will have all
*** the content, but it probably won't look exactly right."

No ****.

That's the way it is with computers.

Whereas "embedding" a document, doesn't disturb the item,
but also doesn't allow editing it either.

These are the things that make DTP so much fun.

I was on Office 2007 for a long, long time. When I upgraded to Office
2016, as my next upgrade, I really couldn't see much difference, all of
the native files remained exactly the same, and could easily be passed
back and forth from the newer Office to the older Office. So it seemed
like a useless upgrade. But I guess being able to edit PDF's is a
tangible benefit, even if it isn't a perfect conversion.

I didn't know Office's Word could edit PDF. I know LibreOffice can too.
--
...!.. illness like COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2!
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org /
/ /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.ma.cx. Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

On 5/16/2020 4:36 PM, Ant wrote:
I was on Office 2007 for a long, long time. When I upgraded to Office
2016, as my next upgrade, I really couldn't see much difference, all of
the native files remained exactly the same, and could easily be passed
back and forth from the newer Office to the older Office. So it seemed
like a useless upgrade. But I guess being able to edit PDF's is a
tangible benefit, even if it isn't a perfect conversion.
I didn't know Office's Word could edit PDF. I know LibreOffice can too.

I think at some point Adobe released the file format for PDF to the
public domain, and everyone implemented support, including Microsoft and
open-source software too.

Yousuf Khan

On 16/05/2020 23.04, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 5/16/2020 4:36 PM, Ant wrote:
I was on Office 2007 for a long, long time. When I upgraded to Office
2016, as my next upgrade, I really couldn't see much difference, all of
the native files remained exactly the same, and could easily be passed
back and forth from the newer Office to the older Office. So it seemed
like a useless upgrade. But I guess being able to edit PDF's is a
tangible benefit, even if it isn't a perfect conversion.
I didn't know Office's Word could edit PDF. I know LibreOffice can too.

I think at some point Adobe released the file format for PDF to the
public domain, and everyone implemented support, including Microsoft and
open-source software too.

Yes, but they didn't release it all, and then they added new features
that are not documented.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

In article , Yousuf Khan
wrote:


I think at some point Adobe released the file format for PDF to the
public domain, and everyone implemented support, including Microsoft and
open-source software too.

the format has always been available to developers, however, it became
an iso standard in 2008.

https://www.iso.org/standard/51502.html

On 13 May 2020, Wolffan wrote
(in upernews.com):


I currently have Adobe Acrobat 11, from before it was sharecropped, on some
older systems, Mac, Win 7. Acrobat 11 is no longer supported, and hasn’t
been supported for a Very Long Time. Acrobat 11 doesn’t work on the latest
versions of Win10 and macOS. I am NOT sharecropping Acrobat DC, at
$15/month/machine; that’s never happening. I need something which will

1 convert PDFs to DOC or DOCX, without page restrictions (some converters
have a 5, or even 3, page limit unless you sharecrop them; I’m looking at
_you_, WPS.)

2 scan in printed documents to PDF, again without restrictions

3 either be free, or reasonably priced, WITH NO BLOODY SHARECROP RENTAL
BULL****. I’m willing to pay, if necessary. I’m not willing to rent.

Thanks everyone, I’ve got a solution: ReadIRIS 17. It wasn’t the
cheapest, but getting a bulk license for the three machines I wanted it for,
plus a discount because I once had ReadIRIS 9 or 10 installed on a Mac years
ago (it shipped with an old HP multifunction device which HP declined to
support on Vista or Leopard and never did officially support on any Linux
distro) it cost less than four months sharcropping with Adobe on _one_
machine. Bite me, Adobe.

On 16 May 2020, Carlos E.R. wrote
(in article ):

On 16/05/2020 23.04, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 5/16/2020 4:36 PM, Ant wrote:
I was on Office 2007 for a long, long time. When I upgraded to Office
2016, as my next upgrade, I really couldn't see much difference, all of
the native files remained exactly the same, and could easily be passed
back and forth from the newer Office to the older Office. So it seemed
like a useless upgrade. But I guess being able to edit PDF's is a
tangible benefit, even if it isn't a perfect conversion.
I didn't know Office's Word could edit PDF. I know LibreOffice can too.

I think at some point Adobe released the file format for PDF to the
public domain, and everyone implemented support, including Microsoft and
open-source software too.

Yes, but they didn't release it all, and then they added new features
that are not documented.

any new features not in the standard aren’t supported by non-Adobe
applications. As my PDFs are generated exclusively by non-Adobe applications,
including the excellent built-in support in macOS (any application which can
print can print to a standards-compliant PDF, right there in the dialog box
of every properly-designed printer driver, and this has been standard in Macs
since OS XZ first appeared) and the not-so-excellent but not as bad as I’d
feared PDF writer Microsoft distributes with some versions of Win 8.x and Win
10 and which can be added to Win 8.x and 10 later if you don’t have it, I
don’t care about their new features, if any. There are a lot of free PDF
writers for Win 7 which also produce standards-compliant PDFs. Word (and
other apps) will also generate PDFs directly.