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  #46  
Old March 2nd 18, 03:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote

| Buffoon, not "bafoon".
|
| Who cares?
|

Exactly.
That's why I wouldn't use software that you write.

| | Books and covers:
| If I visit your house and see that you have Skippy
| peanut butter, Marshmallow Fluff, Wonder bread and
| 3 Musketeers bars on your counter, I don't need to
| watch you cook in order to know that I don't want to
| eat any food you offer. If you eat such things then
| it's not possible that you'd know how to prepare a
| meal properly.
|
| So nobody eats both kinds of food?
|
You're thinking fuzzy again, changing contexts.
Someone who appreciates good food could eat
peanut butter packed with sugar and hydrogenated
fats. They could eat factory pseudo-bread. They
might do it to be gracious at your house. But
they wouldn't choose to stock it in their house
because the flavor and nutrition are so poor.
And hydrogenated fats are specifically unhealthy.

The fact that you could even imagine the two
categories of food as equivalent is why I know
that not only I shouldn't use your software, but
I also shouldn't trust you to prepare the food I
eat.
Bon Appetit. What's for lunch today? Instant
ramen noodles or McDonalds?



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  #47  
Old March 2nd 18, 04:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 02/03/2018 13:54, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Do you think everyone should have the right to paint their car the
same colours as the police?


There is nothing in law in United Kingdom about colours. You can paint
your car in any colour as long as you also notify the vehicle
registration department (DVLC). What you can't do is to use the blue
flashing lights to fool the public and overtake them or stop them and
harass them. That is not on and illegal.

How's your daughter? Is she she still working?

/--- This email has been checked for viruses by Windows Defender
software.
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  #48  
Old March 3rd 18, 03:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote

| Top tip - the type of fat that's "bad for you" changes every year....
|

Classic ostrich thinking: "If I worried about it
I'd never eat anything."

Actually, it doesn't change every year. Yes, there *are*
fads in the health and nutrition fields. Lately cholestrol
and blood pressure are all the rage. Is high cholesterol
bad? The evidence is surprisingly inconclusive. But drug
companies market directly to doctors (at least in the
US) and doctors have been reduced to diagnosing via
software. So everyone's yapping about how everyone
should be on statins. Which is a class of drugs that
actually makes the liver malfunction in order to bring
down measurable cholestrol levels in the bloodstream.

On the other hand, I remember mainstream reports
about hydrogenated fats in the 1970s. Almost 50 years
ago. They're pumped with hydrogen atoms to make them
solid at room temperature, which also makes them hard
to digest. The sheer idiocy of that should be enough
to avoid them. Hydrogenated fats gave us margarine
and fake desserts and cheap peanut butter and greasy
cookies... all without using expensive butter.

Oddly, it's only in the past few years that public
health types have acknowledged that problem. I'm guessing
that the food manufacturing industry was putting pressure
on Congress and the Surgeon General for the first 40 years,
because they didn't have a good substitute for one of their
prized fake food ingredients.

In the later decades of the 20th century they were all
yapping about saturated fats instead. Butter will kill you.
But they didn't mention that rancid, polyunsaturated fats,
with multiple double-carbon bonds only too happy to pick up
oxidizing molecules, were very dangerous in a different way.

These days the fad to fit all the data into 25 words or
less is canola/olive. I won't get into the reasons to avoid
canola. (Not the least of which is that current canola
oil is likely to be Roundup-Ready GMO, doused with
glyphosate.) People can research for themselves.

The logic in recommending canola was that, like olive,
it's mono-unsaturated, which means only 1 double-carbon
bond so the rancidity risk isn't "quite so bad" in terms of
free radicals. So hopefully you'll have a blend of mild
cancer and tasteful heart disease, rather than a bad
case of one or the other. Canola is also a corporate,
factory farm kind of product. So the industry probably
have lobbyists buying dinner for Congressmen -- non-
canola dinner, of course. (They certainly have propaganda
sites online to tell you how great Canola is, despite
International Agency for Research on Cancer warnings
that it's a "probable carcinogen".)

Any such oil should at least be refrigerated, and possibly
have anti-oxidants added if you keep it around. Mono-
unsaturated is still unstable and prone to oxidation. But the
authorities assume the public can't deal with all that
info. Or maybe more to the point, they can't deal with it.
After all, these people are usually politicians and bureaucrats,
not doctors. Their job is to keep things running smoothly.

So, there you go. A quick primer on edible oils. You
don't have to live as a fool or as a pawn of competing
propaganda. With the Internet it's now easier than
ever to educate yourself. Of course, it might spoil
your enjoyment of the next dark brown fish 'n chips
you buy....


  #49  
Old March 5th 18, 01:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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mechanic wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Agreed, absolutely no need to put programs anywhere else.


There's absolutely no need for cars to be any color other than
black either.


Irrelevant analogy.


The analogy is of choice.
  #50  
Old March 5th 18, 02:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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mechanic wrote:

But who on earth is going to do that? It's like running a rm -rf
* command in that, sure, you have the power to do it, but you
wouldn't likely do it.

Would you?


http://hohle.net/scrap_post.php?post=23


That was great repartee ... as I had never seen that web page before, but
it was an interesting read that I suggest others read also. It was good.

Thanks.
  #51  
Old March 5th 18, 02:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Paul wrote:

You're likely to be able
to run just the OS part in about 60GB or so (comfortably).


Thanks for this number as it's always a crap shoot when partitioning to
decide how much to give to each partition.

If 60 is good, on a TB drive, I'd aim for 100 then.
  #52  
Old March 5th 18, 02:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

You have a severe problem.
Why do you want to define everything so precisely in your life?
FFS get something more interesting to do.
You have OCD. This is a DISORDER. That's what the D stands for.
You are ****ED BEYOND RECOGNITION.
Get out of my life and everyone else's on this group.
Nobody gives a **** about you.
Please jump of a cliff and die a slow and painful death.


Pot. Kettle. Black.
  #53  
Old March 5th 18, 03:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mayayana wrote:

What often gets missed in these discussions is
that the design of Windows is not primarily for
security but rather for corporate customers.


This is a great point that the design of Windows is mostly for Corporate IT
needs, and not for a logical placement of files.

Even IE is designed to allow IT to completely
control employee behavior, by overriding settings with
Registry settings the employee can't access. That's
what allowed AOL to wrap IE and provide their own
browser that they controlled.


I wasn't aware of this, which makes sense, and which is yet another reason
to never use what Microsoft provides by way of web browsers.

If you own your computer and use it alone it's nuts
to store all your personal and config files several layers
down in a catacomb of real, fake and hidden folders
where you'll never find them.


It always made me think the coders were nut that the cascaded menus were
kept in a deeply embedded "roaming" directory, which had an insane number
of extraneous levels of hierarchy just to get to the beginning.

Why shouldn't software be in "Programs", without a
space in the name to screw up command line?


Agreed. Or, even "apps" or "progs" so that it's easier to type.
There's no more value to the name "Program Files" than to "Programs".

Why
shouldn't work files be in C:|Files, or in a subfolder of
the program folder? (There's no need to sacrifice
security if data files are kept in a subfolder.) The only
reason not to do that is because you've been shoehorned
onto a corporate workstation.


I use keep only four hierarchies in common use:
1. C:\apps (could as well be called C:\programs)
2. C:\data (this contains all my files I want to save)
3. C:\tmp (this contains files that I'm currently working on)
4. C:\data\{menus} (these are usually the menus via a link)

The mess Microsoft have made -- first by not serving
SOHo customers specifically and second by trying to
take over the system -- is why so much software is
now "portable". All that really means is that it doesn't use
the Registry and doesn't get installed. It bypasses the
convoluted mess of software installed on workstations.


I've never quite understood whether portable is useful or not for programs
that are on a desktop that you use every day. The one disadvantage of
portable apps is that Windows 10 hates to make them the default app.

I'm sure there should be a way around that limitation of Windows though.

Actually, probably half of the software I use doesn't
even have an installer. I put it all in Program Files because
I find that easy, but I didn't need to.


An advantage of NOT putting things in program files is the same reason
teachers wipe the whiteboard after class. Anything that shows up afterward
wasn't put there by the teacher.

Another advantage is that a /lot/ of programs aren't in the right-click
menu by default, so it is better to know where you put the program than to
have to guess where it felt like putting itself.
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Old March 5th 18, 03:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Some people like it
to avoid the idiotic file path with a space ("Program Files"),
which can get complicated when trying to write
command lines.


Not since the current century it isn't.


Every time you speak, you speak from a mind that is closed and not at all
very experienced, it seems.

The fact you can even /think/ that, means that you don't write anything on
the command line, nor in batch files, and specifically not in registry
files.

Just wait until you have to search for a folder name that, even today, has
a tilde in the essentially arbitrarily truncated name.
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Old March 5th 18, 03:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mayayana wrote:

What's it to you? You seem to have a perverse
fixation on your own opinions. Everyone you disagree
with is not just different or even wrong. They must
be an idiot. You're arguing on and on about
something that's none of your concern.


I agree with you Mayayana that the JWS troll is either trolling us by his
nonsensical thoughts, or, perhaps, he's actually that nonsensical.

Anyone who can claim that having a space in a path is a good thing, or
worse, having to deal with tildes and arbitrarily chopped pathnames while
writing code, typing at the command line, or searching the registry, is a
good thing - has zero experience in the real world.

Hence, the JWS troll is either:
a. Ignorant of what we're talking about, or, more likely,
b. Just trolling those of us in the know.
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Old March 5th 18, 03:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Both are pointless things to want or need to do.


If I gave you a pair of pants that didn't fit, to you it means that pants
are pointless.

To me it simply means that this choice isn't the choice for you.

It's the same as if I gave you a pretty pink dress.
You'd say they're pointless simply because you don't wear them.

But to a lady, they have a point that you can't seem to fathom since your
mind is so limited in the possibilities it can comprehend.
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Old March 5th 18, 03:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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ultred ragnusen wrote:
Mayayana wrote:

What's it to you? You seem to have a perverse
fixation on your own opinions. Everyone you disagree
with is not just different or even wrong. They must
be an idiot. You're arguing on and on about
something that's none of your concern.


I agree with you Mayayana that the JWS troll is either trolling us by
his nonsensical thoughts, or, perhaps, he's actually that nonsensical.

Anyone who can claim that having a space in a path is a good thing, or
worse, having to deal with tildes and arbitrarily chopped pathnames
while writing code, typing at the command line, or searching the
registry, is a good thing - has zero experience in the real world.

Hence, the JWS troll is either:
a. Ignorant of what we're talking about, or, more likely,
b. Just trolling those of us in the know.


Peter Hucker aka JWS etc, etc, etc is a well known troll.


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Old March 5th 18, 03:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

The police have been informed you're a paedophile.


You're a creep.
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Old March 5th 18, 03:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Ken Blake wrote:

True. But in almost cases that I'm aware of, in my view, their reasons
are very poor.


One of the best reasons is to put large programs /outside/ the root
partition (e.g., Google Earth), but another great reason, which you seem to
not care much for, is to /know/ on sight what programs you installed and
which programs you did not install - and yet - another good reason is that
you often have to code a batch file (e.g., I just did it moments ago for
curl of icanhazip.com) where you don't want to have to deal with spaces -
and yet another reason - which you don't seem to care for - is that a
search in the registry will be unique if all your paths are 8-characters or
fewer for directory names, which all of mine are.

The fact you see no reason for what is pretty obvious, simply means you
don't do the things above, so you just don't have the experience that I
have.

That's OK. I wish I was as innocent as you appear to be.
All the power to you.

But I prefer to have the choice to organize my file system as I see fit.
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Old March 5th 18, 03:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Peter Hucker aka JWS etc, etc, etc is a well known troll.


Thanks. I'll plonk moving forward for this thread.
 




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