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  #61  
Old February 28th 18, 09:20 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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Ken Blake wrote:

The biggest problem with backup is that I have been burned by backing up to
HDD, which are sort of like having a battery backup to a battery, where
both suffer the same failings under the same conditions.



Were you burned by having backed up to an *internal* HD? As far as I'm
concerned, that's better than no backup at all, but just barely.


I have never backed up to an /internal/ HDD, where I've been burned aplenty
by backing up to strange media (e.g., ZIP drives of the past) and to
removable media (e.g., USB sticks and USB drives) which tend to corrupt
themselves on Windows if you simply look at them askance.

Both
the original and the backup are vulnerable to simultaneous loss by
user error, nearby lightning strike, virus attack, even theft of the
computer.


Theft and lightning aren't a problem here in the hills above the Silicon
Valley, but a virus could easily be a problem with an internal HDD.

So I like to backup to DVD, which has the main problem of data being larger
than 4.7 GB in toto.


DVDs are external media, so they are better than an internal hard
drive, but they are very vulnerable to failure. As far as I'm
concerned, much better is one or more external hard drives;
alternating between two is great.


What I like about DVD is that it doesn't require power to work, where the
power connectors of some of my HDDs (the older ones) is a PITA to
reproduce. Sure, I could disassemble the case and see what's inside and
then use the SATA/PATA/IDE to USB, but that still doesn't negate the fact
that Windows eats up the file system when/if you unplug it in a way that
Windows doesn't like (ask me how I know this).

If SSD gets to the price of DVD, that would be the next option, I would
think. One problem with bulk DVDs is that Costco doesn't sell the stack of
100 anymore... Sigh.
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  #62  
Old February 28th 18, 09:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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PeterN wrote:

They are all industrious standard USB3.


I've had really back luck with corruption if I pull the cord out while
Windows thinks it should be connected, where the /entire/ HDD is corrupted.

The data was still there - but it had to be recovered - the last time using
Recuva - but it has happened multiple times.

So I _hate_ those removable media HDDs.

But, as you said, we each have our own needs...
  #63  
Old February 28th 18, 09:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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In article , ultred ragnusen
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I've had really back luck with corruption if I pull the cord out while
Windows thinks it should be connected, where the /entire/ HDD is corrupted.


user error.

The data was still there - but it had to be recovered - the last time using
Recuva - but it has happened multiple times.


user error.
  #64  
Old February 28th 18, 09:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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In article , ultred ragnusen
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What I like about DVD is that it doesn't require power to work,


yes it does.

where the
power connectors of some of my HDDs (the older ones) is a PITA to
reproduce.


sata, pata and scsi are all standard.

Sure, I could disassemble the case and see what's inside and
then use the SATA/PATA/IDE to USB, but that still doesn't negate the fact
that Windows eats up the file system when/if you unplug it in a way that
Windows doesn't like (ask me how I know this).


user error.
  #65  
Old February 28th 18, 10:46 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 13:20:22 -0800, ultred ragnusen
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

The biggest problem with backup is that I have been burned by backing up to
HDD, which are sort of like having a battery backup to a battery, where
both suffer the same failings under the same conditions.



Were you burned by having backed up to an *internal* HD? As far as I'm
concerned, that's better than no backup at all, but just barely.


I have never backed up to an /internal/ HDD, where I've been burned aplenty
by backing up to strange media (e.g., ZIP drives of the past) and to
removable media (e.g., USB sticks and USB drives) which tend to corrupt
themselves on Windows if you simply look at them askance.



If you say so. But I've done this on multiple computers in many
versions of Windows for many years, and I've never had a single
problem with my backups. If you have, I think it's very likely that
the reason is that you're doing something very much wrong.
  #66  
Old March 1st 18, 01:29 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:22:49 -0800, ultred ragnusen
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Putting the new HDD in the SATA1 slot of the motherboard, I can boot off of
the new drive which has the latest Windows 10 Pro ISO installed.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/...t_device_2.jpg

Now that it's confirmed by the Microsoft Retail Store that the operating
system the Windows 10 update bricked is a goner, there's really nothing
left to do but back up the data and then format the disk as a new disk.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/...ystem8f091.jpg

I don't need two terabytes, where I never even needed one terabyte, so, I
guess I'm going to learn how to RAID these things.


In my experience, RAID is quite fragile. I've learned through experience
to avoid it on my personal machines.

--

Char Jackson
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Old March 1st 18, 01:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 22:30:05 -0800, ultred ragnusen
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nospam wrote:

PS: The Microsoft Store feeds you though, while the Apple store does not.


i've never seen food offered in any microsoft store.


They offered me a the coke you see in this picture...
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/...il_store_2.jpg


Isn't calling Coke "food" setting a pretty low bar? Hopefully, there was
a little bit more to this feeding thing than just a soft drink.

--

Char Jackson
  #68  
Old March 1st 18, 04:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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In article , Char Jackson
wrote:

I don't need two terabytes, where I never even needed one terabyte, so, I
guess I'm going to learn how to RAID these things.


In my experience, RAID is quite fragile. I've learned through experience
to avoid it on my personal machines.


raid is definitely *not* fragile. it's extremely robust, although not
the best choice in every situation.
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Old March 1st 18, 04:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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Char Jackson wrote:

They offered me a the coke you see in this picture...
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/...il_store_2.jpg


Isn't calling Coke "food" setting a pretty low bar? Hopefully, there was
a little bit more to this feeding thing than just a soft drink.


You have a valid point. In both visits, someone walked up to me asking if I
wanted something, and then they rattled off a list of those somethings.

I took a coke each time, but I don't remember what all those somethings
were.

Most were drinks, but I thought I heard cookies in the list, but I'd have
to go back to be sure.

The point was that they never offered anything at Apple visits.
  #70  
Old March 1st 18, 05:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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nospam wrote:

I don't need two terabytes, where I never even needed one terabyte, so, I
guess I'm going to learn how to RAID these things.


In my experience, RAID is quite fragile. I've learned through experience
to avoid it on my personal machines.


raid is definitely *not* fragile. it's extremely robust, although not
the best choice in every situation.


Based on listening to the conversation about RAID from those of you who
have experience that I lack, I think I'll keep those snakes out of my
aquarium.

Thanks!

Since I now have far more disk space than I currently need, most likely,
I'll just dual boot with Ubuntu & Windows 10 using grub following one of
the many tutorials.

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/dua...dows-10-linux/
1. Install Windows 10 Pro
2. Install Ubuntu alongside Windows
3. Set Grub to choose either one by default
  #71  
Old March 20th 18, 09:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.windows7.general
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In article
Char Jackson wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:22:49 -0800, ultred ragnusen
wrote:

Putting the new HDD in the SATA1 slot of the motherboard, I can boot off of
the new drive which has the latest Windows 10 Pro ISO installed.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/...t_device_2.jpg

Now that it's confirmed by the Microsoft Retail Store that the operating
system the Windows 10 update bricked is a goner, there's really nothing
left to do but back up the data and then format the disk as a new disk.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/...ystem8f091.jpg

I don't need two terabytes, where I never even needed one terabyte, so, I
guess I'm going to learn how to RAID these things.


In my experience, RAID is quite fragile. I've learned through experience
to avoid it on my personal machines.

--

Char Jackson


Dig that, people, Raid criticising RAID.

Wow!

 




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