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Malwarebytes
I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or
a spyware scanner? Jeff |
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On 03/01/2018 12:56 PM, Jeff Thoele wrote:
I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or a spyware scanner? Jeff Hi Jeff, In a word: yes. Kaspersky and Bit Defender are the two top scoring ones. Bit Defender's free edition is the only free edition that does not come with junkwa http://www.bitdefender.com/toolbox/freeapps/desktop/ https://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/free.html Kaspersky does not have a free edition. I sell Kasperksy because it works well and the company is easy to deal with. It is also the only one that meets PCI (Payment Card Industry) requirements for an out of date software scan (they badly call it a "vulnerability scan"). Bit Defender's sales staff is a bunch of ass holes, so I don't sell their stuff. I install their free one a lot though. And as always, you pay for what you get. -T |
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On 03/01/2018 01:05 PM, T wrote:
On 03/01/2018 12:56 PM, Jeff Thoele wrote: I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or a spyware scanner? Jeff Hi Jeff, In a word: yes. Kaspersky and Bit Defender are the two top scoring ones. Bit Defender's free edition is the only free edition that does not come with junkwa Â*Â* http://www.bitdefender.com/toolbox/freeapps/desktop/ Â*Â* https://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/free.html Kaspersky does not have a free edition. I sell Kasperksy because it works well and the company is easy to deal with.Â* It is also the only one that meets PCI (Payment Card Industry) requirements for an out of date software scan (they badly call it a "vulnerability scan"). Bit Defender's sales staff is a bunch of ass holes, so I don't sell their stuff.Â* I install their free one a lot though. And as always, you pay for what you get. -T Keep the Malware Bytes too. Think of it as an additional fence for the bad guys to have to navigate. And the bad guys are inherently lazy. That is one of the reasons why they lead a life of crime. |
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:56:38 -0600, Jeff Thoele
wrote: I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or a spyware scanner? Jeff I use Malwarebytes. It detects everything that I don't want so I don't need anything else. Steve -- http://www.npsnn.com |
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:56:38 -0600, Jeff Thoele
wrote: I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or a spyware scanner? Yes, you should keep MalwareBytes AntiMalware and add a good anti-virus program. I strongly recommend against the two most popular: McAfee and Norton. |
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 10:55:07 -0600, jetjock
wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 12:21:08 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:56:38 -0600, Jeff Thoele wrote: I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or a spyware scanner? Jeff I use Malwarebytes. It detects everything that I don't want so I don't need anything else. Steve Do you not know the difference between malware and a virus? I do. Do you? The term “malware” is short for MALicious softWARE. It’s not different from viruses; viruses are one kind of malware. Other kinds are ransomware, worms, trojan horses, rootkits, keyloggers, dialers, spyware, adware, malicious BHOs, rogue security software and other malicious programs (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware) In general, there are two kinds of anti-mailware software--anti-virus programs and anti-spyware programs, but there other more specialized programs too. At a minimum, everyone should have one anti-virus program (you should never have more than one, because doing so can adversely affect your performance and cause problems as they clash with each other) and one anti-spyware program. |
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 10:55:07 -0600, jetjock
wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 12:21:08 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:56:38 -0600, Jeff Thoele wrote: I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or a spyware scanner? Jeff I use Malwarebytes. It detects everything that I don't want so I don't need anything else. Steve Do you not know the difference between malware and a virus? Malware includes viruses. Steve -- http://www.npsnn.com |
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On 03/03/2018 03:27 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
[snip] Do you not know the difference between malware and a virus? Malware includes viruses. False. "Virus" describes the means of replication, not the payload. It's he payload that makes it malware. BTW, I'm reminded of "Owl" from "Winnie-the-Pooh", who was proud of being able to spell his name. He says WOL then adds "I said I could spell my name. I didn't say I could spell it right.". That is, "knowing" doesn't imply being right. |
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2018 11:47:36 -0600, jetjock
wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 10:37:01 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 10:55:07 -0600, jetjock wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 12:21:08 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:56:38 -0600, Jeff Thoele wrote: I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or a spyware scanner? Jeff I use Malwarebytes. It detects everything that I don't want so I don't need anything else. Steve Do you not know the difference between malware and a virus? I do. Do you? The term “malware” is short for MALicious softWARE. It’s not different from viruses; viruses are one kind of malware. Other kinds are ransomware, worms, trojan horses, rootkits, keyloggers, dialers, spyware, adware, malicious BHOs, rogue security software and other malicious programs (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware) In general, there are two kinds of anti-mailware software--anti-virus programs and anti-spyware programs, but there other more specialized programs too. At a minimum, everyone should have one anti-virus program (you should never have more than one, because doing so can adversely affect your performance and cause problems as they clash with each other) and one anti-spyware program. Ken, Reply was intended for Mr. Wolstenholme, not you. He said that all he needed was MWB which is not designed to stop viruses. Sorry if you took offense; none intended. No problem. I didn't take offense. I was just trying to educate you or whoever needed to understand that a virus is a kind of malware, not something different from it. |
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2018 11:08:17 -0600, Sam E
wrote: On 03/03/2018 03:27 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: [snip] Do you not know the difference between malware and a virus? Malware includes viruses. False. "Virus" describes the means of replication, not the payload. It's he payload that makes it malware. You are absolutely right. If you want an accurate technical definition of the term "virus," it's self-replicating software. It doesn't have to be malicious. Nevertheless, for all practical purposes, that technical definition is next to useless these days. *All* the viruses you may run into are malicious; although other kinds *can* exist, they almost never do. So Stephen Wolstenholme's statement (and mine; I said much the same thing in another message in this thread) *is* correct: a virus (or if you want to be technically, but needlessly, accurate, "any virus you may run into") is a kind of malware. Consider the large array of anti-virus programs out there. Do you think their purpose is to remove any kind of self-replicating software, and people buy them for that reason? Of course not. Their purpose is to remove *malicious* self-replicating software (and sometimes other kinds of malicious software), and that's why people want them and buy them, whether or not they even know the technical definition (most people don't). |
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2018 13:30:46 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Sat, 3 Mar 2018 11:08:17 -0600, Sam E wrote: On 03/03/2018 03:27 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: [snip] Do you not know the difference between malware and a virus? Malware includes viruses. False. "Virus" describes the means of replication, not the payload. It's he payload that makes it malware. You are absolutely right. If you want an accurate technical definition of the term "virus," it's self-replicating software. It doesn't have to be malicious. The very act of self-replication - consuming an increasing amount of resources on the computer - is considered malicious in and of itself. There are viruses - mostly from the early days of computing - which did nothing more than replicate and occassionally pop up a joke message, and yet these have been defined as malware since the word was coined. Similarly, worms may not have a destructive payload but are still considered malware. Iindeed, the Morris Worm, the first of its type was written to map the internet rather than cause harm, although poor coding resulted in a less beneficial results. But even had the Morris Worm not crashed servers, it would still be classified as malware because it is the replication that is as much an issue as any payload. |
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jetjock wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 12:21:08 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 14:56:38 -0600, Jeff Thoele wrote: I have got Malwarebytes which I pay $39 a year do I need an antivirus or a spyware scanner? Jeff I use Malwarebytes. It detects everything that I don't want so I don't need anything else. Steve Do you not know the difference between malware and a virus? MBAM does nothing helpful. Sure it blocks some PUPs but v3 is unproven to stop malware or ransomware. Doubt that? Try and find a video that tests MBAM and see what happens. MBAM v3 is a hype- filled placebo. |
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