Turning off updates in Windows 10

I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and HD
space.

TIA

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I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and HD
space.

TIA

Only thing works 100% is disconnect the cable from the internet
otherwise you will do what they want and not what you want ... PERIOD!

HB wrote:
I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and HD
space.

TIA



There are various knobs in the Pro version, that can delay updates
or upgrades. But I don't know if those settings actually stop them
forever.

Now this method, is a bit different...

*******

Windows isn't going to like this. The operation is implemented as
a "rename", so that you won't damage the hardlink between this file
and WinSXS. If there is a Windows File Protection in Windows 10,
it would stop this from working.

rename wuaueng.dll wuaueng.dll.bak

To avoid permission issued, I did the rename in Linux Mint (LiveCD boot).
Once C: is mounted in Linux (takes one click), I use "df" command
to display the Disk Free table and the "name" of C: becomes apparent.
The "mv" or Move command is the equivalent of "rename".

https://s13.postimg.org/jxvwua6c7/pesky_wuaueng.gif

Then boot Windows 10 and watch the fun. Here, those little dots
for the spinning Windows Update thing, those dots keep moving
all day long. Because attempts to call "wuauserv" service
(wuaueng.dll service), are no longer being answered. If you just
turned off wuauserv in the Services panel, USOSVC would likely
turn it on again. USOSVC uses techniques like Tash Scheduler entries,
to "sorta" repair stuff like a switched off wuauserv. But if
you break the kneecaps of wuauserv, then USOSVC doesn't have a
full troubleshooter waiting to glue it all together again.
There are troubleshooter scripts, but I've never seen one
that was equipped with a miniature "sfc /scannow" built-in.

https://s13.postimg.org/5rg5z2y1z/wh...in_forever.gif

Task Manager shows Windows Defender doing the usual scanning,
but no sign of TiWorker or SVCHOST wuauserv.

I did that for a few days to a Win10 install in a VM, which
is not quite the same as verifying the OS running on an OEM
computer. Still, you can have fun with that, and see if
Microsoft has crafted a self-repairing OS yet. They actually
have the technical means to automatically fix stuff like
that, but do they have the balls to do it ? Time will tell.

That's going to break a few things.

Manually installing a .msu from catalog.update.microsoft.com is
no longer going to work. WSUSOffline would no longer work.
MBSA 2.3 wouldn't work (but there's no evidence it works on
Windows 10 anyway). You won't get Windows Defender definitions
that way. They can be downloaded as a separate EXE file (about
100MB), but when you run that, I think that will jam up too.
It's possible installing regular software will still work.

And it's easy to undo.

rename wuaueng.dll.bak wuaueng.dll # the Windows way
mv wuaueng.dll.bak wuaueng.dll # the Linux way

Paul

On 2018-03-01 22:34, Paul wrote:
HB wrote:
I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take
over. This last one tonight took over an hour to download and install.
Wasted time I could have gotten work done.Â* Please, no reasons why
they're important. I shut them off on the other PCs I had with no
problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I
could better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off
in W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my
time and HD space.

TIA



To prevent automatic download & installation of Windows Updates
PERMANENTLY, including new builds such as the FCU do the following:

1) Download Windows Update MiniTool
2) Go into user interface, on the left hand side you will see 'Automatic
Updates', change from 'automatically' to 'Notification mode'

After doing the above, whenever there are updates, you will get a popup
notification that there are updates to install. Run the MiniTool & check
for updates. When the one that you don't want to install appears in the
list, put a check mark beside it & click on the option to hide it. Then,
if you go back and re-run Windows Update, that update will not appear
again (IF, by chance, it does show up again after you have hidden it,
just hide it again - sometimes this happens maybe due to a minor bug in
the program).

Good luck!!

"pjp" wrote in message
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In article , says...

I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and
HD
space.

TIA

Only thing works 100% is disconnect the cable from the internet
otherwise you will do what they want and not what you want ... PERIOD!

No cable. Wireless.

"Athanasian_Creed" wrote in message
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On 2018-03-01 22:34, Paul wrote:
HB wrote:
I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take
over. This last one tonight took over an hour to download and install.
Wasted time I could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why
they're important. I shut them off on the other PCs I had with no
problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and
HD space.

TIA



To prevent automatic download & installation of Windows Updates
PERMANENTLY, including new builds such as the FCU do the following:

1) Download Windows Update MiniTool
2) Go into user interface, on the left hand side you will see 'Automatic
Updates', change from 'automatically' to 'Notification mode'

After doing the above, whenever there are updates, you will get a popup
notification that there are updates to install. Run the MiniTool & check
for updates. When the one that you don't want to install appears in the
list, put a check mark beside it & click on the option to hide it. Then,
if you go back and re-run Windows Update, that update will not appear
again (IF, by chance, it does show up again after you have hidden it, just
hide it again - sometimes this happens maybe due to a minor bug in the
program).

Good luck!!

Thanks. :^) I'll look into this tonight. I assume they don't download
and take up space and cause problems when "hidden" is clicked.

On 2018-03-01 21:10, HB wrote:

I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and HD
space.

https://winaero.com/blog/ethernet-co...ed-windows-10/

Simple isn't it? Work for me in Anniversary Edition anyway (via registry
editing)...

Regards,

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B00ze wrote:
On 2018-03-01 21:10, HB wrote:

I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time
and HD
space.

https://winaero.com/blog/ethernet-co...ed-windows-10/

Simple isn't it? Work for me in Anniversary Edition anyway (via registry
editing)...

Regards,


I thought they were going to remove the Ethernet metered thing ?
Is it still around ?

I;m getting so confused. For example, a while back, there was
a stink about Wifi Sense... and they were removing it. And a
few days ago, I ran into a Wifi Sense article with a Feb 2018
byline ? I didn't get it. I thought that thing was dead.

Same with the Ethernet metered reg setting. I thought some
version was going to remove it.

Paul

"Athanasian_Creed" wrote in message
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On 2018-03-01 22:34, Paul wrote:
HB wrote:
I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take
over. This last one tonight took over an hour to download and install.
Wasted time I could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why
they're important. I shut them off on the other PCs I had with no
problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and
HD space.

TIA



To prevent automatic download & installation of Windows Updates
PERMANENTLY, including new builds such as the FCU do the following:

1) Download Windows Update MiniTool
2) Go into user interface, on the left hand side you will see 'Automatic
Updates', change from 'automatically' to 'Notification mode'

After doing the above, whenever there are updates, you will get a popup
notification that there are updates to install. Run the MiniTool & check
for updates. When the one that you don't want to install appears in the
list, put a check mark beside it & click on the option to hide it. Then,
if you go back and re-run Windows Update, that update will not appear
again (IF, by chance, it does show up again after you have hidden it, just
hide it again - sometimes this happens maybe due to a minor bug in the
program).

Good luck!



OK, got and used the mini tool and set the wireless to Metered. I hope these
thing stop the damn updates.

On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 21:10:49 -0500, "HB" wrote in


I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and HD
space.

TIA


Try https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

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under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on
of your data goes too far. Using a very simple interface, you decide
how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted
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O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it
can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not
install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software,
like so many other programs do these days!
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On 02/03/2018 02:10, HB wrote:
I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and HD
space.


You didn't try harder or you weren't determined to find a simple
solution like most nutters here!!.

The simple solution is to launch your "services.msc" APP and then
disable Windows Update. Look at this pictu

https://i.imgur.com/dSaGEON.png https://i.imgur.com/dSaGEON.png


Simple solutions are always the best but idiots like to install all
sorts of gadgets and when they get viruses or malware, they blame
Microsoft. It's simple to blame Microsoft because that is the only
corporation known to the entire world. Nutters recommending third party
gadgets don't even know who has released those gadgets nor do they know
their background or their intention to release free software.

However, any malware you install is always a good thing; We are here to
sort out any problems you may encounter later in your computing
experience!!!!

/--- This email has been checked for viruses by Windows Defender
software.
//https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/comprehensive-security/






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On 02/03/2018 02:44, pjp wrote:
Only thing works 100% is disconnect the cable from the internet
otherwise you will do what they want and not what you want ... PERIOD!

When did you last have your brain scan? It looks really defective so I
suggest go and get it scanned because you utter such nonsense again.

/--- This email has been checked for viruses by Windows Defender
software.
//https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/comprehensive-security/




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On 2/3/2018 10:10, HB wrote:

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and HD
space.

Ask, in good manner, President Donald Trump to issue an executive order
to Micro$soft?

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I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and
HD
space.

TIA

Only thing works 100% is disconnect the cable from the internet
otherwise you will do what they want and not what you want ... PERIOD!

No cable. Wireless.

So turn off the wireless also, that was implied

On 2018-03-02 00:29, Paul wrote:

B00ze wrote:

https://winaero.com/blog/ethernet-co...ed-windows-10/
Simple isn't it? Work for me in Anniversary Edition anyway (via
registry editing)...
Regards,


I thought they were going to remove the Ethernet metered thing ?
Is it still around ?

I honestly have no idea. I tried Googling it but I only got 1000's of
pages saying to set it metered to avoid Fall Creator's installing. I
could not find a page that said whether this "feature" still worked
AFTER Fall Creator's was installed. It does work in Anniversary (1607).

I;m getting so confused. For example, a while back, there was
a stink about Wifi Sense... and they were removing it. And a
few days ago, I ran into a Wifi Sense article with a Feb 2018
byline ? I didn't get it. I thought that thing was dead.

I did not know there were going to remove it, lol, I have it marked as
one of the miriad things to disable...

Same with the Ethernet metered reg setting. I thought some
version was going to remove it.

It's possible, I found ONE, a single one, complaint on MS Forums about
someone trying it and the setting reverting back each time he closed the
Settings app...

Regards,

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