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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
FYI and appropriate action...
Microsoft is going to force Windows 10 users to use Edge, by making it the default browser for opening links. The tech firm is about to start a test a new feature that would require any links opened in the Windows Mail app will automatically open in Edge, regardless of which internet browser you use currently. The test was revealed in the release notes for an upcoming update to Windows 10, which has already been sent to users on its Insider program. We will begin testing a change where links clicked on within the Windows Mail app will open in Microsoft Edge, which provides the best, most secure and consistent experience on Windows 10 and across your devices,” the notes read. The change will see mean Microsoft ignoring the wishes of users, in favour of pushing their own, unpopular web browser on people running Windows 10. Windows Mail is the default email app that comes with Windows 10 and supports various email providers including Gmail. Microsoft says the reason behind is because “Microsoft Edge enables you to be more productive, organised and creative without sacrificing your battery life or security, the tech firm says. Having struggled to attract users from the likes of Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox, this isn’t the first time Microsoft has tried to force users onto to its web browser. Currently, if you use another web browser, Windows 10 displays a pop up which with claim Edge is is faster and more efficient than Google Chrome. Also, if you try to change Edge as the default browser in the Settings app, Windows 10 asks you if you really want to switch, with users required to force through a change to an alternative browser such as Chrome or Firefox. While only currently in testing, the feature is likely to be extremely unpopular should it be rolled to regular Windows 10 users. Despite Windows 10 now being installed on 36 percent of desktop computers worldwide, Edge is installed on only about 4 percent of computers, trailing Internet Explorer (6.9%), Firefox (11.5%) and market leader Google Chrome (67.5%). |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
On 03/20/2018 10:14 PM, WayFarer wrote:
FYI and appropriate action... Microsoft is going to force Windows 10 users to use Edge, by making it the default browser for opening links. The tech firm is about to start a test a new feature that would require any links opened in the Windows Mail app will automatically open in Edge, regardless of which internet browser you use currently. The test was revealed in the release notes for an upcoming update to Windows 10, which has already been sent to users on its Insider program. We will begin testing a change where links clicked on within the Windows Mail app will open in Microsoft Edge, which provides the best, most secure and consistent experience on Windows 10 and across your devices,” the notes read. The change will see mean Microsoft ignoring the wishes of users, in favour of pushing their own, unpopular web browser on people running Windows 10. Windows Mail is the default email app that comes with Windows 10 and supports various email providers including Gmail. Microsoft says the reason behind is because “Microsoft Edge enables you to be more productive, organised and creative without sacrificing your battery life or security, the tech firm says. Having struggled to attract users from the likes of Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox, this isn’t the first time Microsoft has tried to force users onto to its web browser. Currently, if you use another web browser, Windows 10 displays a pop up which with claim Edge is is faster and more efficient than Google Chrome. Also, if you try to change Edge as the default browser in the Settings app, Windows 10 asks you if you really want to switch, with users required to force through a change to an alternative browser such as Chrome or Firefox. While only currently in testing, the feature is likely to be extremely unpopular should it be rolled to regular Windows 10 users. Despite Windows 10 now being installed on 36 percent of desktop computers worldwide, Edge is installed on only about 4 percent of computers, trailing Internet Explorer (6.9%), Firefox (11.5%) and market leader Google Chrome (67.5%). So, Why use Windows Mail? I don't! Rene |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
WayFarer wrote:
The subject line is a lie. Microsoft is going to force Windows 10 users to use Edge, by making it the default browser for opening links. That is a lie. The tech firm is about to start a test a new feature that would require any links opened in the Windows Mail app will automatically open in Edge, regardless of which internet browser you use currently. Assuming the poster isn't lying for a third time, the obvious workaround is "Don't use Windows Mail". |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
On 21/03/18 10:21, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I don't! An appropriate action inmho. |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
On 21/03/18 11:09, John Doe wrote:
WayFarer wrote: The subject line is a lie. Microsoft is going to force Windows 10 users to use Edge, by making it the default browser for opening links. That is a lie. The tech firm is about to start a test a new feature that would require any links opened in the Windows Mail app will automatically open in Edge, regardless of which internet browser you use currently. Assuming the poster isn't lying for a third time, the obvious workaround is "Don't use Windows Mail". Entering pertinent details into a web search engine should produce additional and verifiable information. |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 04:09:57 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote in WayFarer wrote: The subject line is a lie. Microsoft is going to force Windows 10 users to use Edge, by making it the default browser for opening links. That is a lie. The tech firm is about to start a test a new feature that would require any links opened in the Windows Mail app will automatically open in Edge, regardless of which internet browser you use currently. Assuming the poster isn't lying for a third time, the obvious workaround is "Don't use Windows Mail". My preference is to turn off updates. -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
CRNG wrote:
My preference is to turn off updates. How? I had Windows 10 Pro updates (accidentally, on purpose, I don't remember how I did it) turned off for more than two years, but finally, in January, an update bricked my Windows 10 Pro system. Now I have a lot less customization, such that Windows, once the "pause" period is done, updates itself. It just updated a couple of days ago, since my pause period expired, and it wouldn't let me set a new pause period. I /know/ updates can be stopped (because I did it) but I don't know what it was that I did that stopped them. Does anyone? If so, please let me know because I don't want my machine updating until I want my machine updating. |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:25:55 +0000 (UTC), Uultred ragnusen
wrote in CRNG wrote: My preference is to turn off updates. How? I had Windows 10 Pro updates (accidentally, on purpose, I don't remember how I did it) turned off for more than two years, but finally, in January, an update bricked my Windows 10 Pro system. Now I have a lot less customization, such that Windows, once the "pause" period is done, updates itself. It just updated a couple of days ago, since my pause period expired, and it wouldn't let me set a new pause period. I /know/ updates can be stopped (because I did it) but I don't know what it was that I did that stopped them. Does anyone? If so, please let me know because I don't want my machine updating until I want my machine updating. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 O&O ShutUp10 means you have full control over which comfort functions under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on of your data goes too far. Using a very simple interface, you decide how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted functions should be deactivated. O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software, like so many other programs do these days! -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
On 3/21/2018 9:25 AM, Uultred ragnusen wrote:
CRNG wrote: My preference is to turn off updates. How? I had Windows 10 Pro updates (accidentally, on purpose, I don't remember how I did it) turned off for more than two years, but finally, in January, an update bricked my Windows 10 Pro system. Now I have a lot less customization, such that Windows, once the "pause" period is done, updates itself. It just updated a couple of days ago, since my pause period expired, and it wouldn't let me set a new pause period. I /know/ updates can be stopped (because I did it) but I don't know what it was that I did that stopped them. Does anyone? If so, please let me know because I don't want my machine updating until I want my machine updating. It runs in my mind that if the original Windows 10 pro the updates could be shut off, or disabled for a period. It is possible that over the updates that function has been remove. -- 2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
Keith Nuttle wrote:
It runs in my mind that if the original Windows 10 pro the updates could be shut off, or disabled for a period. It is possible that over the updates that function has been remove. Thanks for that observation Keith, in that you are correct, I had the older version that I was able, somehow, to prevent updating. - Windows 10 Pro Version 1511 OS Build 10586.1106 (November 12, 2015) What I do now, is pause updates, which is only a stopgap measure. And I have the automatic reboot turned off as shown below, but I'm not sure if I can "back out" those updates once installed. HOW TO TURN OFF AUTOMATIC REBOOT: Open the control panel using the power windows shell (so you can be admin) Control Panel System and Security Administrative Tools Task Scheduler Task Scheduler Library Microsoft Windows UpdateOrchestrator Right click on Reboot task, and Disable it. |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
Uultred ragnusen wrote:
CRNG wrote: My preference is to turn off updates. How? I had Windows 10 Pro updates (accidentally, on purpose, I don't remember how I did it) turned off for more than two years, but finally, in January, an update bricked my Windows 10 Pro system. Now I have a lot less customization, such that Windows, once the "pause" period is done, updates itself. It just updated a couple of days ago, since my pause period expired, and it wouldn't let me set a new pause period. I /know/ updates can be stopped (because I did it) but I don't know what it was that I did that stopped them. Does anyone? If so, please let me know because I don't want my machine updating until I want my machine updating. It's easy. Rename just one stinkin file, and... no more updates :-) rename wuaueng.dll wuaueng.dll.bak # Example of how to rename, here. https://s13.postimg.org/jxvwua6c7/pesky_wuaueng.gif # Example of Windows Update "wheel spin" as a result of this. # The balls are animated... because there is no Service to # talk to any longer. It can't run. Even USOSVC can't bring it # back. This will stop working when Microsoft invents the # self-repairing OS. Which won't take them that long to invent. https://s13.postimg.org/5rg5z2y1z/wh...in_forever.gif Rest assured that the OS has emergency features and back-channels, so this is really no barrier at all. We won't know they are present, until Microsoft starts using them. HTH, Paul |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
CRNG wrote:
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 Interesting. Very interesting. Thanks! I have to run but here's a screenshot after initially starting up the app: http://i.cubeupload.com/enSAvu.jpg For the tribal knowledge record, here's a basic cut and paste from: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://dl5.oo-software.com/files/ooshutup10/OOSU10.exe Version 1.6.1395, File size 779KB Released on: December 21, 2017 --------------------------- Checksum information --------------------------- Name: OOSU10.exe Size: 815168 bytes (0 MB) SHA256: 16EE96D72C8EC102F04EC580BAC8377E6F0530F8923ACF56A7 7EB546EDB86CBE O&O ShutUp10 means you have full control over which comfort functions under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on of your data goes too far. Using a very simple interface, you decide how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted functions should be deactivated. O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed - it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software, like so many other programs do these days! More control over your operating system Adapt your security settings Protect your privacy Control location services Control Windows Updates Do not pass on your user data and diagnostics Further information Portable Version - no installation required Free of charge for private users, companies and educational institutions Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Supports Windows 10 Fall Creators Update |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 10:14:40 +0700, WayFarer
wrote: FYI and appropriate action... Microsoft is going to force Windows 10 users to use Edge, by making it the default browser for opening links. Making something a default does not *force* anyone to do anything. The default is what you get *if* you don't change it. The tech firm is about to start a test a new feature that would require any links opened in the Windows Mail app will automatically open in Edge, regardless of which internet browser you use currently. That's fine with me. I don't care at all. I think both Windows Mail and Edge are terrible choices and I don't use either of them. The test was revealed in the release notes for an upcoming update to Windows 10, which has already been sent to users on its Insider program. We will begin testing a change where links clicked on within the Windows Mail app will open in Microsoft Edge, which provides the best, most secure and consistent experience on Windows 10 and across your devices,” the notes read. The change will see mean Microsoft ignoring the wishes of users, in favour of pushing their own, unpopular web browser on people running Windows 10. Windows Mail is the default email app that comes with Windows 10 and supports various email providers including Gmail. Yes, but "default" doesn't mean you have to use it. I strongly recommend against it. Microsoft says the reason behind is because “Microsoft Edge enables you to be more productive, organised and creative without sacrificing your battery life or security, the tech firm says. Having struggled to attract users from the likes of Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox, this isn’t the first time Microsoft has tried to force users onto to its web browser. Currently, if you use another web browser, Windows 10 displays a pop up which with claim Edge is is faster and more efficient than Google Chrome. I use FireFox. I've never seen such a popup. Also, if you try to change Edge as the default browser in the Settings app, Windows 10 asks you if you really want to switch, with users required to force through a change to an alternative browser such as Chrome or Firefox. No problem, as far as I'm concerned. It's easy enough to reply "yes." While only currently in testing, the feature is likely to be extremely unpopular should it be rolled to regular Windows 10 users. Not to me. As I said, I don't mind, since I have no interest in using either Mail or Edge. Despite Windows 10 now being installed on 36 percent of desktop computers worldwide, Edge is installed on only about 4 percent of computers I don't believe that. If Window 10 is installed on 36% of computers, then Edge is installed on 36% of computers. I never use Edge, but it's installed here. trailing Internet Explorer (6.9%), Firefox (11.5%) and market leader Google Chrome (67.5%). Internet Explore is also installed on 36% of computers. Like Edge, it comes with Windows 10; "installed" and "used" are two very different things. I think Internet Explorer is almost as bad as Edge, and Chrome, despite its popularity, is only slightly better than either one. FireFox is my personal favorite. |
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Paul wrote:
Rename just one stinkin file, and... no more updates :-) rename wuaueng.dll wuaueng.dll.bak # Example of how to rename, here. https://s13.postimg.org/jxvwua6c7/pesky_wuaueng.gif # Example of Windows Update "wheel spin" as a result of this. # The balls are animated... because there is no Service to # talk to any longer. It can't run. Even USOSVC can't bring it # back. This will stop working when Microsoft invents the # self-repairing OS. Which won't take them that long to invent. https://s13.postimg.org/5rg5z2y1z/wh...in_forever.gif Rest assured that the OS has emergency features and back-channels, so this is really no barrier at all. We won't know they are present, until Microsoft starts using them. Yikes Paul! You enticed me to dive into water way over my head! Look at this screenshot: http://i.cubeupload.com/1ji0MX.jpg What the heck is going on? On decades on both Windows and Linux, I've /never/ seen those warnings! Linux: ultred@ragnusen: ls wuau* ls: cannot access 'wuauclt.exe': Input/output error ls: cannot access 'wuaueng.dll': Input/output error ls: cannot access 'wuautoappupdate.dll': Input/output error ultred@ragnusen: ls -l wuaueng.dll lrwxrwxrwx 2 x x 25 Feb 9 20:37 wuaueng.dll - unsupported reparse point ultred@ragnusen: Can someone explain what went on just now when I followed Paul's advice? |
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Microsoft to force Windows 10 users to use its Edge web browser
Ken Blake wrote:
WayFarer wrote: FYI and appropriate action... Microsoft is going to force Windows 10 users to use Edge, by making it the default browser for opening links. Making something a default does not *force* anyone to do anything. The default is what you get *if* you don't change it. It can be changed? The poster is that much of a noob??? |
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