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Changing ownership of a desktop
I want to give my son a desktop I have been using.
It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? -- mick |
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On 03/07/2020 20:09:44, mick wrote:
I want to give my son a desktop I have been using. It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? should have said that my account is a local account and his account will be a local account. There has never been and will never be any Microsoft Accounts on the computer. -- mick |
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On 7/3/2020 3:09 PM, mick wrote:
I want to give my son a desktop I have been using. It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? You are apparently not a DIYer. One of Murphy's law is the simpler the task the more that can go wrong. If you want to eliminate your account completely, and transfer it to your son, I suspect the first thing that would be needed would be to create your sons account. I suspect the next thing that needs to be done is to change the ownership of the individual folders. This has been my main problem in trying to share folders. Even thought you have administrator permissions, you have to own the account to share it. I may not have been doing it correctly but it seems it was a two step process, all done from the File Properties, Security Advance Tab. To do what you want, I assume you would have to transfer the ownership of folders to your son's account before deleting your. While you think of the computer having a couple of accounts I have found there are several, some are basically unknown owners, and it gets confusing |
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mick wrote:
On 03/07/2020 20:09:44, mick wrote: I want to give my son a desktop I have been using. It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? should have said that my account is a local account and his account will be a local account. There has never been and will never be any Microsoft Accounts on the computer. That should be OK. -- USA'll B soon 2 B 244 yrs. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.ma.cx. Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail. | |o o| | \ _ / ( ) |
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On 03/07/2020 20:46:23, knuttle wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:09 PM, mick wrote: I want to give my son a desktop I have been using. It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? You are apparently not a DIYer. One of Murphy's law is the simpler the task the more that can go wrong. If you want to eliminate your account completely, and transfer it to your son, I suspect the first thing that would be needed would be to create your sons account. Yes, I would do that. I suspect the next thing that needs to be done is to change the ownership of the individual folders. This has been my main problem in trying to share folders. Even thought you have administrator permissions, you have to own the account to share it. I may not have been doing it correctly but it seems it was a two step process, all done from the File Properties, Security Advance Tab. To do what you want, I assume you would have to transfer the ownership of folders to your son's account before deleting your. Looking in the security tab of C:\ and other folders there are Users (Computer Name\Users) and Administrators (Computer Name\Administrators) so changing the Administrators name may have no effect and the computer name will not change either. If it works then fine, if it doesn't then it will be a case of playing around or just give up and take the long option of re-installing everything. The App-Data is the one that may cause the most headaches. He has a working win10 setup now using most of the same software so it will be a case of transferring profiles for Firefox, Outlook 2010 .pst files and adding new email accounts to Outlook. His desktop and mine are only five feet apart and on the same network so after taking a disk image of both it'll just be a leisurely job of transferring appropriate bits and pieces. ;-) There will only be the one drive with windows and all the programs. All personal files are on a serperate drive so that will just be swapped out. -- mick |
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Ant wrote:
mick wrote: On 03/07/2020 20:09:44, mick wrote: I want to give my son a desktop I have been using. It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? should have said that my account is a local account and his account will be a local account. There has never been and will never be any Microsoft Accounts on the computer. That should be OK. Yep just make sure the new account is an administrator account *before* you delete yours! Also for Home users I suggest creating a second administrator account as a backup rescue account just as a CYA. -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 17:06:08 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Yep just make sure the new account is an administrator account *before* you delete yours! Also for Home users I suggest creating a second administrator account as a backup rescue account just as a CYA. If desired, you can make a secret administrator account. |
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mick wrote:
I want to give my son a desktop I have been using. It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? Now, if I tried to do this, something bad would happen... :-) Make a backup first. I've run a setup here, with two user accounts, and that was OK. I typically install programs "for all users", so the Win32 ones should be visible to both users. I don't know what the policies and restrictions are on Windows Store Apps though. Paul |
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Arlen Holder wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 17:06:08 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Yep just make sure the new account is an administrator account *before* you delete yours! Also for Home users I suggest creating a second administrator account as a backup rescue account just as a CYA. If desired, you can make a secret administrator account. "secret administrator account"? In Home edition where your options are administrator, standard, and guest? -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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On 03/07/2020 22:14:32, Paul wrote:
mick wrote: I want to give my son a desktop I have been using. It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? Now, if I tried to do this, something bad would happen... :-) Make a backup first. I already have a couple of recent images so I will do another one immediately before I start pulling apart this working system. It won't be the end of the world if I have to start afresh by installing everything from scratch. I'm just trying to save a bit of time so I can do other things that are not so taxing. :-) I've run a setup here, with two user accounts, and that was OK. I typically install programs "for all users", so the Win32 ones should be visible to both users. I don't know what the policies and restrictions are on Windows Store Apps though. Never used the store. -- mick |
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 17:14:55 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
"secret administrator account"? In Home edition where your options are administrator, standard, and guest? I've only done it once, so I would have to google for current details... o https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hidden+admin+account Here's the first hit: o *How to enable the hidden Windows 10 administrator account* https://www.ghacks.net/2014/11/12/how-to-enable-the-hidden-windows-10-administrator-account/ Second hit: o *How To Enable Hidden Administrator Account In Windows 10* https://www.intowindows.com/enable-the-hidden-administrator-account-in-windows-10/ Third hit: o *How to Unlock the Secret Administrator Account in Windows* https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-unlock-the-secret-administrator-account-in-windows/ Tons more hits... o *3 Ways to Enable Hidden Administrator Account in Windows 10* https://windowsloop.com/enable-hidden-administrator-account-windows-10/ -- Usenet is a public helpdesk where adults purposefully help each other. |
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mick wrote:
On 03/07/2020 22:14:32, Paul wrote: I've run a setup here, with two user accounts, and that was OK. I typically install programs "for all users", so the Win32 ones should be visible to both users. I don't know what the policies and restrictions are on Windows Store Apps though. Never used the store. With some luck then, the damage will be minimal. Paul |
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On 7/3/2020 4:31 PM, mick wrote:
Looking in the security tab of C:\ and other folders there are Users (Computer Name\Users) and Administrators (Computer Name\Administrators) so changing the Administrators name may have no effect and the computer name will not change either.Â* If it works then fine, if it doesn't then it will be a case of playing around or just give up and take the long option of re-installing everything. The App-Data is the one that may cause the most headaches. He has a working win10 setup now using most of the same software so it will be a case of transferring profiles for Firefox, Outlook 2010 .pst files and adding new email accounts to Outlook. His desktop and mine are only five feet apart and on the same network so after taking a disk image of both it'll just be a leisurely job of transferring appropriate bits and pieces. ;-) There will only be the one drive with windows and all the programs. All personal files are on a serperate drive so that will just be swapped out. |
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On 7/3/20 2:09 PM, mick wrote:
I want to give my son a desktop I have been using. It has Windows 10 Home edition ver 2004. Rather than reformatting the hard drive and re-installing windows, then re-installing all the other software (which would be a good thing to do) I thought the quickest way was to create another user account in his name, change it to an administrator account and then delete my user account. Is it that easy or am I going to encounter problems? -- "The fact of having been born is a bad augury for immortality." [George Santayana, "The Life of Reason"] |
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knuttle wrote:
On 7/3/2020 4:31 PM, mick wrote: Looking in the security tab of C:\ and other folders there are Users (Computer Name\Users) and Administrators (Computer Name\Administrators) so changing the Administrators name may have no effect and the computer name will not change either. If it works then fine, if it doesn't then it will be a case of playing around or just give up and take the long option of re-installing everything. The App-Data is the one that may cause the most headaches. He has a working win10 setup now using most of the same software so it will be a case of transferring profiles for Firefox, Outlook 2010 .pst files and adding new email accounts to Outlook. His desktop and mine are only five feet apart and on the same network so after taking a disk image of both it'll just be a leisurely job of transferring appropriate bits and pieces. ;-) There will only be the one drive with windows and all the programs. All personal files are on a serperate drive so that will just be swapped out. -- mick The computer name is completely different from the owner of a folder. I have the MS Administrator account plus my account which has Administrator privileges. I found that when I tried to share a drive from my account, I would get errors when I tried to access that folder from an LAN computer. I would suspect if you don't make sure the ownership are correct, you will not have problems until you start sharing folders and things like that. The machine name and the workgroup name are in the system control panel Right-click Start : Run and type "control" into the Run box. That gives all the Control Panels. The System control panel has the computer names in it. You can set stuff like that to values other than "Desktop-5Tq87V2". and make it "Franks-Computer" if you want. That should affect graphical views of the ancient protocol used for the Network Neighborhood. Maybe you could have two computers that said "Franks-Computer" but if you made a reference to \\192.168.1.3\TVRoom , the IP method would work. As far as computer account values for home directories, the SID for "Frank" is different for every unique (non-cloned) OS disk. 111111111-222222222-333333333-1001 The three groups of digits are randomly generated for each OS install. The "plain" user accounts start at 1000. The Administrator is 500. On Windows 10 that is sometimes referred to as the "Real Administrator", just because its home directory reflects that it is Admin. Other accounts can be elevated and belong to an Administrator group, and do everything the Real Admin can do. The Real Admin account is not generally turned on. If you turn it on (for reasons unknown), the password should be set immediately to a secure value. Write the password on a piece of paper, put the paper inside the computer. When you do File Sharing between computers, and you log in as "Frank" on someone elses computer, in a non-domain situation, the machines don't really know what Frank is. Maybe Frank on a second machine is 222222222-444444444-666666666-1002 If the computer does a "Take Own" with the green bar showing, then you may find two owners on a file in shared folder. 111111111-222222222-333333333-1001 222222222-444444444-666666666-1002 On your own machine, the owner would show as Frank 222222222-444444444-666666666-1002 because that machine happens to know that the first number is a "known quantity" on the machine. The foreign SID remains displayed as a number. If the machines were domain-joined, as far as I know the situation is a lot tidier. The domain server knows everything, and so it should be possible to label things well. But home computers work just fine without the domain server, and still manage to transfer files OK. File sharing on Home or Pro, is limited in the number of machines that can connect at any one time. Most households don't have enough computers, for the Win10 serving a folder to deny the 11th computer (20th connection or so). It's possible a computer burns up two connections, when it connects. Most people don't run into that limit, unless they've really put a lot of machines on their LAN segment. Paul |
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