What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?

See also this thread from today...
o Why do you still use Windows XP and why?, by Ant
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/xiXjG9KnRAk
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Even the START MENU from Windows XP ports over to Windows 10 with a simple
copy of the file hierarchy and it works out of the box in my setup.

You can stream audio over bluetooth.

On 6/27/2020 7:01 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
See also this thread from today...
o Why do you still use Windows XP and why?, by Ant
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/xiXjG9KnRAk

Anything to do with DirectX 12.

Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth.



I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was
available earlier.

Bill wrote:
Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth.



I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was
available earlier.

There are useless and useful versions of the Snippingtool.

The early versions with no delay timer are useless. There's
many shots where I needed to expose a menu, I could not do it.

For those cases, I used the GIMP screen capture tool, which
has a delayed capture.

Using Bluetooth speakers or headphones, that's a function of
a Bluetooth "profile". Earlier OSes had third party Bluetooth
stacks. And they might well have worked with Bluetooth headphones
for all I know. What Windows 10 attempts to do, is provide its
own stack, with mixed results. Some earlier Windows 10, were
pretty clumsy looking - they tried for the "chocolate syrup"
appearance to things, but the process still looked like they
were struggling. You can blame that on Bluetooth, as much
as the difficulty of writing a stack.

I still don't think you can do a Bluetooth piconet properly on Windows 10.
Not that it would have any utility, but would represent a tick
box for completing a set of profiles. Just as previous OSes
used to support Firewire networking (the Firewire having its
own MAC address assigned in the BIOS or the like). Windows 10
removed support for Firewire networking. It might have been
competitive if there had been a Firewire 1600, but with Firewire 800
you would get around 80MB/sec and Firewire 400 (a lot more common)
would only give 40MB/sec (or 20-30MB/second on disk enclosures).
At one time, there was even a thing that looked like a router
box for Firewire 400 (a kind of hub), but that was "decades ago" :-)

Paul

On 16/04/2020 23:41, onionDatStinks wrote:
Didn't you know? MS updates are so they can inject more spyware into your
machine and disable it if it's not an official paid for version. It's not
about functionality, it's about enforcing more profits.

Too be fair, they have also fixed quite a lot of nasty, including zero
day, vulnerabilities.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth.

Nope that's not a difference between Windows 10 and Windows XP/7.

You *could* stream audio over Bluetooth on Windows XP and ever since,
i.e. also on Windows 7. It only needed the proper driver, profiles,
etc., but those were (and are) supplied with/for the Bluetooth adapter
(probably a USB 'dongle' on XP).

In the XP days, you could even use Bluetooth to connect to a
'dumb'phone (for example Nokia 6310i) for use as a (2G (GSM/GPRS)) modem
to connect to the Internet. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

Bill wrote:
Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth.

I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was
available earlier.

IIRC, it was already in XP, but at least in Vista.

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wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:01:04 +1000, Lucifer
wrote:

You can stream audio over bluetooth.

My w/7 machines have no problem with that.

Please don't strip newsgroups, especially in cases like this where the
discussion is about different Windows versions. Thanks.

On 03.07.20 12:36, Frank Slootweg wrote:
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wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:01:04 +1000, Lucifer
wrote:

You can stream audio over bluetooth.

My w/7 machines have no problem with that.

Please don't strip newsgroups, especially in cases like this where the
discussion is about different Windows versions. Thanks.

PLEASE strip newsgroups.
Only ASO's try to flood the internet.

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Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 03.07.20 12:36, Frank Slootweg wrote:
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wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:01:04 +1000, Lucifer
wrote:

You can stream audio over bluetooth.

My w/7 machines have no problem with that.

Please don't strip newsgroups, especially in cases like this where the
discussion is about different Windows versions. Thanks.

PLEASE strip newsgroups.
Only ASO's try to flood the internet.

Don't be silly! You can disagree about the (non-)sense of the
OP/subject, but it *is* applicable to all the listed newsgroups.

FWIW, I don't like massive crossposting either, but once the OP has
set the groups, snipping groups is nearly always counter-productive,
because people in the snipped group(s) will miss part of the discussion
or/and waste their time posting something which has already been
discussed in the other group(s).

Bottom line: There is *no* advantage snipping groups in an already
started thread, unless a group is off-topic from the start.

"Frank Slootweg" wrote

| I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was
| available earlier.
|
| IIRC, it was already in XP, but at least in Vista.

This is the first I've ever heard of it. Pressing PrtScr
puts a desktop screenshot on the clipboard.
Pressing Ctrl + Prt Scr puts an active window screenshot
on the clipboard. That can then be pasted into any
graphic editor and cropped.

To think of "snipping tool"
as a new function is like thinking of built-in ZIP as a
new function: It's there, but only the least experienced
people, who never actually use ZIP files, would be
without a real ZIP program. The least of those is still
better than the confusing windows ZIP functionality
that shows a ZIP as a folder.

On 7/3/2020 7:26 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote

| I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was
| available earlier.
|
| IIRC, it was already in XP, but at least in Vista.

This is the first I've ever heard of it. Pressing PrtScr
puts a desktop screenshot on the clipboard.
Pressing Ctrl + Prt Scr puts an active window screenshot
on the clipboard. That can then be pasted into any
graphic editor and cropped.

To think of "snipping tool"
as a new function is like thinking of built-in ZIP as a
new function: It's there, but only the least experienced
people, who never actually use ZIP files, would be
without a real ZIP program. The least of those is still
better than the confusing windows ZIP functionality
that shows a ZIP as a folder.



I can understand why you think of it as confusing, but personally I
think showing it as a folder is a good idea. It lets you open it as you
would open a folder and use the files within it (mostly) as you would
the files in a folder.

--
Ken

Mayayana wrote:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote

| I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was
| available earlier.
|
| IIRC, it was already in XP, but at least in Vista.

This is the first I've ever heard of it. Pressing PrtScr
puts a desktop screenshot on the clipboard.
Pressing Ctrl + Prt Scr puts an active window screenshot
on the clipboard. That can then be pasted into any
graphic editor and cropped.

To think of "snipping tool"
as a new function is like thinking of built-in ZIP as a
new function: It's there, but only the least experienced
people, who never actually use ZIP files, would be
without a real ZIP program. The least of those is still
better than the confusing windows ZIP functionality
that shows a ZIP as a folder.

I'm so glad that Bill (please don't snip attributions, unless you're
nospam's twin-brother) gave you the opportunity for the above two
'rants'. I *could* - somewhat - debunk your 'reasoning', but where's the
fun in *that*!?

Keep up the good work! Your comments, especially the humourous/ironic/
sarcastic ones, are highly appreciated. (The ones in the face-mask
(etc.) thread really made my day.)

BTW, are we still on topic in all the groups? We can't have "ASO's
flooding the internet", can we!?

"Ken Blake" wrote

| I can understand why you think of it as confusing, but personally I
| think showing it as a folder is a good idea. It lets you open it as you
| would open a folder and use the files within it (mostly) as you would
| the files in a folder.
|
Yes. It's good for beginners, up to a point. But
it's deceptive. When I try to help others I always
have to explain adamantly that they need to take
the files/folder out of the ZIP. "Drag the folder out
of there and put it on the Desktop. Then delete the
original. It's not a real folder. I can't really explain it...
Just drag it out. There you go. Now you can open
that file and resave it..."

For my own purposes I've never used that functionality.
I always install a ZIP program as part of basic setup,
along with IrfanView, Sysinternals tools, etc. If I'm
taking files out of a ZIP there's a good chance I'll be
moving them around, saving an edited version, etc.
So to my mind, unpacking the files is the first step.