OEM Windows10

Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

Hi Peter,

Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date
it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and
all around for the license number.

Get the latest from
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO
And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain.
An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this.

You can use either to install on multiple machines, but
tell it you do not have a license on the additional
machines. The downloaded version will let you choose
what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick
the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed
version will run with several of the feature disabled to
encourage you to install a license. But it will run.

Don't put the same license on multiple machines.


What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on
a single computer

The retail version is more expensive because you are
paying for a pretty box and the because license is
transferable between machines: remove from one
and install on another. Don't run on two with
the same license.

-T

In article ,
says...

Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

Think you'd find no need to purchase assuming pc already is running win7
or 8. Just keep same bit level and it'll likely self validate during
install. Get the install using MS's MediaCreation Tool.

That's all I've done for couple pcs here now. One where I did change bit
level I had to manually enter a Win7 64 key but that's only time. They
validated fine and I spent no money doing it. Mind you, if I'd had to
it'd have not been done LOL

On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote:

On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

Hi Peter,

Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date
it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and
all around for the license number.

Get the latest from
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO
And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain.
An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this.

You can use either to install on multiple machines, but
tell it you do not have a license on the additional
machines. The downloaded version will let you choose
what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick
the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed
version will run with several of the feature disabled to
encourage you to install a license. But it will run.

Don't put the same license on multiple machines.


What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on
a single computer

I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that
then each computer was locked in to that licence?



The retail version is more expensive because you are
paying for a pretty box and the because license is
transferable between machines: remove from one
and install on another. Don't run on two with
the same license.

-T

On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 04:01:30 -0400, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

Think you'd find no need to purchase assuming pc already is running win7
or 8. Just keep same bit level and it'll likely self validate during
install. Get the install using MS's MediaCreation Tool.

That's all I've done for couple pcs here now. One where I did change bit
level I had to manually enter a Win7 64 key but that's only time. They
validated fine and I spent no money doing it. Mind you, if I'd had to
it'd have not been done LOL

Thanks, I'm just trying to install the same Win10 OEM licence on to a
brand new computer, which will be a spare computer in case of some
future disaster.

On 11/18/19 6:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote:

The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on
a single computer

I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that
then each computer was locked in to that licence?

One computer, one license. You can reuse the media,
not the license. OEM, the licenses stays with
the computer, including in the landfill

On 11/18/19 7:00 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 04:01:30 -0400, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

Think you'd find no need to purchase assuming pc already is running win7
or 8. Just keep same bit level and it'll likely self validate during
install. Get the install using MS's MediaCreation Tool.

That's all I've done for couple pcs here now. One where I did change bit
level I had to manually enter a Win7 64 key but that's only time. They
validated fine and I spent no money doing it. Mind you, if I'd had to
it'd have not been done LOL

Thanks, I'm just trying to install the same Win10 OEM licence on to a
brand new computer, which will be a spare computer in case of some
future disaster.


One computer, one license.

If you are worried about disaster recovery, make
a clone of your hard drive every so often

Clonezilla is marvelous

In article ,
Peter Jason wrote:
....
Thanks, I'm just trying to install the same Win10 OEM licence on to a
brand new computer, which will be a spare computer in case of some
future disaster.

Installing Win10 *IS* the disaster.

--

Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts
have no place in organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

On 11/18/19 10:49 PM, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article ,
Peter Jason wrote:
...
Thanks, I'm just trying to install the same Win10 OEM licence on to a
brand new computer, which will be a spare computer in case of some
future disaster.

Installing Win10 *IS* the disaster.


But most of the time, due to the lack of common apps for
Linux, folks are forced to use Windows.

On 11/18/2019 7:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote:

On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

Hi Peter,

Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date
it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and
all around for the license number.

Get the latest from
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO
And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain.
An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this.

You can use either to install on multiple machines, but
tell it you do not have a license on the additional
machines. The downloaded version will let you choose
what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick
the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed
version will run with several of the feature disabled to
encourage you to install a license. But it will run.

Don't put the same license on multiple machines.


What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on
a single computer

I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that
then each computer was locked in to that licence?



No. The OEM version is like the retail version in that regard. What you
buy can be installed on only one computer at a time. What's different is
that the retail version can be moved to another computer as many times
as you want, but the OEM version is permanenyly tied to the first
computer it's installed on; it may never be moved to another.


--
Ken

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:56:48 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On 11/18/2019 7:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote:

On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

Hi Peter,

Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date
it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and
all around for the license number.

Get the latest from
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO
And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain.
An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this.

You can use either to install on multiple machines, but
tell it you do not have a license on the additional
machines. The downloaded version will let you choose
what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick
the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed
version will run with several of the feature disabled to
encourage you to install a license. But it will run.

Don't put the same license on multiple machines.


What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on
a single computer

I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that
then each computer was locked in to that licence?



No. The OEM version is like the retail version in that regard. What you
buy can be installed on only one computer at a time. What's different is
that the retail version can be moved to another computer as many times
as you want, but the OEM version is permanenyly tied to the first
computer it's installed on; it may never be moved to another.

In that case can I transfer (move) a retail Windows10 from an old
broken computer (via the original DVD) to my new one?

Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:56:48 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On 11/18/2019 7:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote:

On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?
Hi Peter,

Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date
it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and
all around for the license number.

Get the latest from
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO
And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain.
An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this.

You can use either to install on multiple machines, but
tell it you do not have a license on the additional
machines. The downloaded version will let you choose
what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick
the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed
version will run with several of the feature disabled to
encourage you to install a license. But it will run.

Don't put the same license on multiple machines.


What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?
The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on
a single computer

I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that
then each computer was locked in to that licence?


No. The OEM version is like the retail version in that regard. What you
buy can be installed on only one computer at a time. What's different is
that the retail version can be moved to another computer as many times
as you want, but the OEM version is permanenyly tied to the first
computer it's installed on; it may never be moved to another.

In that case can I transfer (move) a retail Windows10 from an old
broken computer (via the original DVD) to my new one?

It's increasingly difficult to determine the T & C for what you bought.

I can't find a "Full" boxed DVD version of Pro for example, and the
version that comes on a USB stick, refuses to use the word "Full",
leaving it up in the air as to what it is.

And the T & C on the web site, uses essentially the same text for
transfer rights on each (OEM versus Full=Retail). There's a reason
for that. For the "end-user", OEM software is already on the hard
drive when you get it. Dell puts it there. Or the System Builder
puts it there. The System Builder is not allowed to install
System Builder OEM software on his/her own computer! It can only
be placed on a customer computer. And it must be done that way,
so the interpretation of these rules will work properly :-)

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Uset...10_English.htm

Transfer.

a. Software preinstalled on device === what a System Builder puts on your drive for you
b. Stand-alone software.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Uset...10_English.htm

Transfer.

a. Software preinstalled on device.
b. Stand-alone software. ============== what you got from the Retail Box

So there is the traditional usage rules. You can buy a "download version" of Full Pro
as a Full Pro (which cheats you out of receiving the box with the
two DVDs in it, one DVD for x32, one DVD for x64).

The description for Windows 8 is here, but hasn't been updated for
Windows 10.

https://www.howtogeek.com/198358/wha...ns-of-windows/

On the Microsoft page, all I can find is a shop page with
a woman with big tits and no SKU numbers to be able to trace
anything. (Yes, the woman has no SKU number)

When I've bought software in the past for Microsoft, I could
look at a number like "FQC-xxxxx" and trace it to some terms
and conditions, with an evening of work. I don't think I can
do that any more. I got a pricelist off the MSFT site, but
they use cell phone abbreviations for the text, as if there's
some shortage of paper in virtual space or something.

These would be examples of Windows 10 with transfer rights.
I can't find a retail box with two DVDs in this list. This is
purely a guess on my part. I can't be sure about this.

HAJ-00056 WIN HOME FPP 10 P2 32-bit/64-bit Eng Intl Taiwan Only USB
HAV-00064 Win Pro FPP 10 P2 32-bit/64-bit Eng Intl Taiwan Only USB

This doesn't say system builder, and I can't tell what this is.

FQC-10083 Win Pro 10 32-bit/64-bit Eng Intl Taiwan Only USB RS === ???

So ah, yes, there are T & C, but it's almost impossible to
determine via web info, exactly what you bought and what
rules apply. Sweet.

"Would it say on my computer screen ?" Nope.

And if you shopped electronically, you would be entirely
dependent on one line of text on the "receipt page" for
the details of what you bought. And you know how
that's going to turn out. It'll be like that FQC-10083
entry, ambiguous.

The price is partially a hint, except if you bought your
product on Ebay. The Full (retail) might be $200, the
OEM about $150. In the past, the markup on the Full was
even higher (could be twice as much).

Paul

On 19/11/2019 06:49, Kenny McCormack wrote:
Installing Win10 *IS* the disaster.


Can you just **** off if you are not using Windows 10 and you don't have
interest in it.

Are you suggesting that Linux is so boring that nothing interesting is
going on their newsgroups so you are here for entertainment? I'm sorry
to say you are in the wrong place and your cock-sucking mum should have
taught you better when you were a toddler.



--
With over 1,000,000 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

On 11/19/2019 1:39 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:56:48 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On 11/18/2019 7:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote:

On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine?

Hi Peter,

Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date
it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and
all around for the license number.

Get the latest from
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO
And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain.
An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this.

You can use either to install on multiple machines, but
tell it you do not have a license on the additional
machines. The downloaded version will let you choose
what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick
the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed
version will run with several of the feature disabled to
encourage you to install a license. But it will run.

Don't put the same license on multiple machines.


What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail
version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more
expensive?

The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on
a single computer

I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that
then each computer was locked in to that licence?



No. The OEM version is like the retail version in that regard. What you
buy can be installed on only one computer at a time. What's different is
that the retail version can be moved to another computer as many times
as you want, but the OEM version is permanenyly tied to the first
computer it's installed on; it may never be moved to another.

In that case can I transfer (move) a retail Windows10 from an old
broken computer (via the original DVD) to my new one?



If it's retail, yes. No problem. As I said, you can do that whether it's
broken or not, and you can do it as many times as you want.


--
Ken