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  #316  
Old August 5th 19, 06:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert


You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul




I tried it again

https://postimg.cc/dh1TbCB6

Robert
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  #317  
Old August 5th 19, 06:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 11:34:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I'm having trouble even understanding let alone
racing ahead. I found the file you indicated
and I downloaded it but you said nothing about two
files. I only saw what you showed me nothing else.


It asked where I wanted it to go so I choose
downloads as good as any other place.

I've already downloaded the Macrium free version

I will try again

Robert


When you're finished, there should be two files.

A large ZIP file, containing the WinPE10 WADK kit.

A smaller EXE file, containing the Macrium installer.

Install Macrium using the two files, into your Win10 OS.

Run Macrium and select the Rescue Media option.

In the Advanced settings of the Media Creation pane,
set the kit used, to the Win10PE WADK kit you downloaded.

It will take a while to make the ISO file.

There should be a later dialog to run the optical
drive and burn a CD. I didn't test that part.

Paul




Just so I don't mess things up at this point; you said
to install Macrium so I assume I double click V7 to install
is that correct?

Robert
  #318  
Old August 5th 19, 07:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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Posts: 785
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On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert


You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul




On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert


You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul


I ran and installed Macrium but I don't
understand what you mean by run Macrium
and select the Rescue Media option.

https://postimg.cc/zyXMMTf0

https://postimg.cc/LhVFb9T4

https://postimg.cc/TpyQWQp8

https://postimg.cc/svS7rLM2


How do I do that?

In passing, after I installed it the last
pic shows its asking permission again. It
doesn't do this on the 8500 and never did
it before on the 780 so why is it doing
this after installation?

Thanks,
Robert
  #319  
Old August 5th 19, 08:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert

You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul




On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert

You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul


I ran and installed Macrium but I don't
understand what you mean by run Macrium
and select the Rescue Media option.

https://postimg.cc/zyXMMTf0

https://postimg.cc/LhVFb9T4

https://postimg.cc/TpyQWQp8

https://postimg.cc/svS7rLM2


How do I do that?

In passing, after I installed it the last
pic shows its asking permission again. It
doesn't do this on the 8500 and never did
it before on the 780 so why is it doing
this after installation?

Thanks,
Robert


It needs to be elevated, to make backups
or to do restores.

It needs administrator, because it needs the power
to put "any ones" files back where they belong.

*******

You have the two files in the folder.

You can execute the EXE and install the version 7 Macrium.

*******

Then, when the program is running, go to the menu
and select the rescue media item.

https://i.postimg.cc/yN96d68h/rescue-media.gif

When the rescue media dialog appears, in Advanced
you can set the version of WinPE to use (WinPE10).

Paul
  #320  
Old August 5th 19, 09:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 12:05:08 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert
You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul




On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert
You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul


I ran and installed Macrium but I don't
understand what you mean by run Macrium
and select the Rescue Media option.

https://postimg.cc/zyXMMTf0

https://postimg.cc/LhVFb9T4

https://postimg.cc/TpyQWQp8

https://postimg.cc/svS7rLM2


How do I do that?

In passing, after I installed it the last
pic shows its asking permission again. It
doesn't do this on the 8500 and never did
it before on the 780 so why is it doing
this after installation?

Thanks,
Robert


It needs to be elevated, to make backups
or to do restores.

It needs administrator, because it needs the power
to put "any ones" files back where they belong.

*******

You have the two files in the folder.

You can execute the EXE and install the version 7 Macrium.

*******

Then, when the program is running, go to the menu
and select the rescue media item.

https://i.postimg.cc/yN96d68h/rescue-media.gif

When the rescue media dialog appears, in Advanced
you can set the version of WinPE to use (WinPE10).

Paul




On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 12:05:08 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert
You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul




On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I tried again but it isn't generating the V7 file
only the DLHF. Everytime I click the link you gave
me this is what it gives. Do you want me to put that
in the Macrium folder?


https://postimg.cc/ykVFD1gt

https://postimg.cc/ZvJyvHRp

https://postimg.cc/PLZL69v1

https://postimg.cc/87fs59Hx

Robert
You have one copy of DLHF on your hard drive now.

Go to the folder where that is stored, and
double-click it to run the DLHF.

In the DLHF menu, use the pulldown that selects
which file to download. Select "Installer only"
and untick the "install immediately" thing.

What should happen, is the ZIP file you have
now in a "Macrium" folder, should be joined by
the "installer only" you're going to download now.

The stub downloader does the downloading.

No more web browsers, please...
You do not need, nor should you be using
a web browser at this time.

By running DLHF, you will get it to fetch the needed file.

Paul


I ran and installed Macrium but I don't
understand what you mean by run Macrium
and select the Rescue Media option.

https://postimg.cc/zyXMMTf0

https://postimg.cc/LhVFb9T4

https://postimg.cc/TpyQWQp8

https://postimg.cc/svS7rLM2


How do I do that?

In passing, after I installed it the last
pic shows its asking permission again. It
doesn't do this on the 8500 and never did
it before on the 780 so why is it doing
this after installation?

Thanks,
Robert


It needs to be elevated, to make backups
or to do restores.

It needs administrator, because it needs the power
to put "any ones" files back where they belong.

*******

You have the two files in the folder.

You can execute the EXE and install the version 7 Macrium.

*******

Then, when the program is running, go to the menu
and select the rescue media item.

https://i.postimg.cc/yN96d68h/rescue-media.gif

When the rescue media dialog appears, in Advanced
you can set the version of WinPE to use (WinPE10).

Paul




I never had to go into my Admin Account to do backups
or restore before?

So your saying I need to create a Admin Account on Win10
and then do everything from there? Will the Admin Account
see Macrium or do I have to do everything all over for that
account as well?

It took a bit of hunting but I finally found the Control
Panel under Systems but I haven't added a Admin Account as
yet till I heard back from you as to how to proceed with this.

Robert
  #321  
Old August 5th 19, 09:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_7_]
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In message ,
Robert in CA writes:

[BIG snip]

I never had to go into my Admin Account to do backups
or restore before?


If you start making a Macrium image *by booting from a Macrium CD*,
questions of account do not arise.

So your saying I need to create a Admin Account on Win10
and then do everything from there? Will the Admin Account
see Macrium or do I have to do everything all over for that
account as well?


If you start making a Macrium image *by starting Macrium from within
Windows*, I can't advise. (I've _always_ made - as well as restored,
obviously - my Macrium images by booting from the Macrium CD. Normal
Windows _not running_.)

It took a bit of hunting but I finally found the Control
Panel under Systems but I haven't added a Admin Account as
yet till I heard back from you as to how to proceed with this.

Robert

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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  #322  
Old August 5th 19, 10:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Posts: 11,873
Default Win7 support:

Robert in CA wrote:

I never had to go into my Admin Account to do backups
or restore before?

So your saying I need to create a Admin Account on Win10
and then do everything from there? Will the Admin Account
see Macrium or do I have to do everything all over for that
account as well?

It took a bit of hunting but I finally found the Control
Panel under Systems but I haven't added a Admin Account as
yet till I heard back from you as to how to proceed with this.

Robert


When you set up Windows 10, the first account belongs
to the Admin group. The UAC prompt is a request to
use the power of the Admin group (elevate). If you
deny the UAC prompt, or a program doesn't attempt to
elevate, the program runs as a regular user.

Windows installs don't want to "lose" the administrator
power, so the first account belongs to administrator group.
If you go to the Control Panels in Windows 10 and use
the Accounts panel, you can define a second account
if you want, one which is not a member of the
administrator group.

Right-click the Start button, from the menu select Run,
in there type "control" enter to run Control Panels,
and in there should be a users and account panel of some sort.
There you can check your "current powers" or define an
additional account.

Paul
  #323  
Old August 6th 19, 09:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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Posts: 785
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On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 2:26:13 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I never had to go into my Admin Account to do backups
or restore before?

So your saying I need to create a Admin Account on Win10
and then do everything from there? Will the Admin Account
see Macrium or do I have to do everything all over for that
account as well?

It took a bit of hunting but I finally found the Control
Panel under Systems but I haven't added a Admin Account as
yet till I heard back from you as to how to proceed with this.

Robert


When you set up Windows 10, the first account belongs
to the Admin group. The UAC prompt is a request to
use the power of the Admin group (elevate). If you
deny the UAC prompt, or a program doesn't attempt to
elevate, the program runs as a regular user.

Windows installs don't want to "lose" the administrator
power, so the first account belongs to administrator group.
If you go to the Control Panels in Windows 10 and use
the Accounts panel, you can define a second account
if you want, one which is not a member of the
administrator group.

Right-click the Start button, from the menu select Run,
in there type "control" enter to run Control Panels,
and in there should be a users and account panel of some sort.
There you can check your "current powers" or define an
additional account.

Paul




I'm not looking to 'set-up' Windows 10 at this point.
I'm just trying to get through your instructions to create
a Rescue CD to restore the bad Win 7 HD and get me back
to where this all started.


Robert
  #324  
Old August 6th 19, 09:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 785
Default Win7 support:

On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 11:34:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I'm having trouble even understanding let alone
racing ahead. I found the file you indicated
and I downloaded it but you said nothing about two
files. I only saw what you showed me nothing else.


It asked where I wanted it to go so I choose
downloads as good as any other place.

I've already downloaded the Macrium free version

I will try again

Robert


When you're finished, there should be two files.

A large ZIP file, containing the WinPE10 WADK kit.

A smaller EXE file, containing the Macrium installer.

Install Macrium using the two files, into your Win10 OS.

Run Macrium and select the Rescue Media option.

In the Advanced settings of the Media Creation pane,
set the kit used, to the Win10PE WADK kit you downloaded.

It will take a while to make the ISO file.

There should be a later dialog to run the optical
drive and burn a CD. I didn't test that part.

Paul




On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 11:34:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I'm having trouble even understanding let alone
racing ahead. I found the file you indicated
and I downloaded it but you said nothing about two
files. I only saw what you showed me nothing else.


It asked where I wanted it to go so I choose
downloads as good as any other place.

I've already downloaded the Macrium free version

I will try again

Robert


When you're finished, there should be two files.

A large ZIP file, containing the WinPE10 WADK kit.

A smaller EXE file, containing the Macrium installer.

Install Macrium using the two files, into your Win10 OS.

Run Macrium and select the Rescue Media option.

In the Advanced settings of the Media Creation pane,
set the kit used, to the Win10PE WADK kit you downloaded.

It will take a while to make the ISO file.

There should be a later dialog to run the optical
drive and burn a CD. I didn't test that part.

Paul




Success!

https://postimg.cc/sBDsbcyR

Now I need you to walk me through restoring the bad
Win7 HD.

I thought I had it correct last time and labeled the
HD with (Mrimgs)as source but you said it was wrong?


Robert
  #325  
Old August 6th 19, 10:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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Posts: 785
Default Win7 support:

On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 1:53:10 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 11:34:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I'm having trouble even understanding let alone
racing ahead. I found the file you indicated
and I downloaded it but you said nothing about two
files. I only saw what you showed me nothing else.


It asked where I wanted it to go so I choose
downloads as good as any other place.

I've already downloaded the Macrium free version

I will try again

Robert


When you're finished, there should be two files.

A large ZIP file, containing the WinPE10 WADK kit.

A smaller EXE file, containing the Macrium installer.

Install Macrium using the two files, into your Win10 OS.

Run Macrium and select the Rescue Media option.

In the Advanced settings of the Media Creation pane,
set the kit used, to the Win10PE WADK kit you downloaded.

It will take a while to make the ISO file.

There should be a later dialog to run the optical
drive and burn a CD. I didn't test that part.

Paul




On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 11:34:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I'm having trouble even understanding let alone
racing ahead. I found the file you indicated
and I downloaded it but you said nothing about two
files. I only saw what you showed me nothing else.


It asked where I wanted it to go so I choose
downloads as good as any other place.

I've already downloaded the Macrium free version

I will try again

Robert


When you're finished, there should be two files.

A large ZIP file, containing the WinPE10 WADK kit.

A smaller EXE file, containing the Macrium installer.

Install Macrium using the two files, into your Win10 OS.

Run Macrium and select the Rescue Media option.

In the Advanced settings of the Media Creation pane,
set the kit used, to the Win10PE WADK kit you downloaded.

It will take a while to make the ISO file.

There should be a later dialog to run the optical
drive and burn a CD. I didn't test that part.

Paul




Success!

https://postimg.cc/sBDsbcyR

Now I need you to walk me through restoring the bad
Win7 HD.

I thought I had it correct last time and labeled the
HD with (Mrimgs)as source but you said it was wrong?


Robert




On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 1:53:10 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 11:34:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I'm having trouble even understanding let alone
racing ahead. I found the file you indicated
and I downloaded it but you said nothing about two
files. I only saw what you showed me nothing else.


It asked where I wanted it to go so I choose
downloads as good as any other place.

I've already downloaded the Macrium free version

I will try again

Robert


When you're finished, there should be two files.

A large ZIP file, containing the WinPE10 WADK kit.

A smaller EXE file, containing the Macrium installer.

Install Macrium using the two files, into your Win10 OS.

Run Macrium and select the Rescue Media option.

In the Advanced settings of the Media Creation pane,
set the kit used, to the Win10PE WADK kit you downloaded.

It will take a while to make the ISO file.

There should be a later dialog to run the optical
drive and burn a CD. I didn't test that part.

Paul




On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 11:34:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I'm having trouble even understanding let alone
racing ahead. I found the file you indicated
and I downloaded it but you said nothing about two
files. I only saw what you showed me nothing else.


It asked where I wanted it to go so I choose
downloads as good as any other place.

I've already downloaded the Macrium free version

I will try again

Robert


When you're finished, there should be two files.

A large ZIP file, containing the WinPE10 WADK kit.

A smaller EXE file, containing the Macrium installer.

Install Macrium using the two files, into your Win10 OS.

Run Macrium and select the Rescue Media option.

In the Advanced settings of the Media Creation pane,
set the kit used, to the Win10PE WADK kit you downloaded.

It will take a while to make the ISO file.

There should be a later dialog to run the optical
drive and burn a CD. I didn't test that part.

Paul




Success!

https://postimg.cc/sBDsbcyR

Now I need you to walk me through restoring the bad
Win7 HD.

I thought I had it correct last time and labeled the
HD with (Mrimgs)as source but you said it was wrong?


Robert




This is the part of your instructions which has me
confused because your using a blank drive and I'm
not.

As I said, I labeled my HD with the Mrimgs and had
it as the source just as in your pics but you said
I still had it wrong.

https://postimg.cc/6Tpd6JWk

https://postimg.cc/kDRgvffV

https://postimg.cc/ZWwmSdwt

https://postimg.cc/y3hqrgDG

Robert
  #326  
Old August 6th 19, 12:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 2:26:13 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I never had to go into my Admin Account to do backups
or restore before?

So your saying I need to create a Admin Account on Win10
and then do everything from there? Will the Admin Account
see Macrium or do I have to do everything all over for that
account as well?

It took a bit of hunting but I finally found the Control
Panel under Systems but I haven't added a Admin Account as
yet till I heard back from you as to how to proceed with this.

Robert

When you set up Windows 10, the first account belongs
to the Admin group. The UAC prompt is a request to
use the power of the Admin group (elevate). If you
deny the UAC prompt, or a program doesn't attempt to
elevate, the program runs as a regular user.

Windows installs don't want to "lose" the administrator
power, so the first account belongs to administrator group.
If you go to the Control Panels in Windows 10 and use
the Accounts panel, you can define a second account
if you want, one which is not a member of the
administrator group.

Right-click the Start button, from the menu select Run,
in there type "control" enter to run Control Panels,
and in there should be a users and account panel of some sort.
There you can check your "current powers" or define an
additional account.

Paul




I'm not looking to 'set-up' Windows 10 at this point.
I'm just trying to get through your instructions to create
a Rescue CD to restore the bad Win 7 HD and get me back
to where this all started.


Robert


The UAC prompt appears, because Macrium needs the ability
to work at the physical layer. And your first account
on the machine belongs to the Admin group.

When you boot the Macrium CD, that amounts to administrator
powers as well. Although no UAC prompt appears on those screens,
since it's a WinPE (Preinstall Environment).

Paul
  #327  
Old August 6th 19, 04:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:32:05 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 2:26:13 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I never had to go into my Admin Account to do backups
or restore before?

So your saying I need to create a Admin Account on Win10
and then do everything from there? Will the Admin Account
see Macrium or do I have to do everything all over for that
account as well?

It took a bit of hunting but I finally found the Control
Panel under Systems but I haven't added a Admin Account as
yet till I heard back from you as to how to proceed with this.

Robert
When you set up Windows 10, the first account belongs
to the Admin group. The UAC prompt is a request to
use the power of the Admin group (elevate). If you
deny the UAC prompt, or a program doesn't attempt to
elevate, the program runs as a regular user.

Windows installs don't want to "lose" the administrator
power, so the first account belongs to administrator group.
If you go to the Control Panels in Windows 10 and use
the Accounts panel, you can define a second account
if you want, one which is not a member of the
administrator group.

Right-click the Start button, from the menu select Run,
in there type "control" enter to run Control Panels,
and in there should be a users and account panel of some sort.
There you can check your "current powers" or define an
additional account.

Paul




I'm not looking to 'set-up' Windows 10 at this point.
I'm just trying to get through your instructions to create
a Rescue CD to restore the bad Win 7 HD and get me back
to where this all started.


Robert


The UAC prompt appears, because Macrium needs the ability
to work at the physical layer. And your first account
on the machine belongs to the Admin group.

When you boot the Macrium CD, that amounts to administrator
powers as well. Although no UAC prompt appears on those screens,
since it's a WinPE (Preinstall Environment).

Paul










On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:32:05 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 2:26:13 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I never had to go into my Admin Account to do backups
or restore before?

So your saying I need to create a Admin Account on Win10
and then do everything from there? Will the Admin Account
see Macrium or do I have to do everything all over for that
account as well?

It took a bit of hunting but I finally found the Control
Panel under Systems but I haven't added a Admin Account as
yet till I heard back from you as to how to proceed with this.

Robert
When you set up Windows 10, the first account belongs
to the Admin group. The UAC prompt is a request to
use the power of the Admin group (elevate). If you
deny the UAC prompt, or a program doesn't attempt to
elevate, the program runs as a regular user.

Windows installs don't want to "lose" the administrator
power, so the first account belongs to administrator group.
If you go to the Control Panels in Windows 10 and use
the Accounts panel, you can define a second account
if you want, one which is not a member of the
administrator group.

Right-click the Start button, from the menu select Run,
in there type "control" enter to run Control Panels,
and in there should be a users and account panel of some sort.
There you can check your "current powers" or define an
additional account.

Paul




I'm not looking to 'set-up' Windows 10 at this point.
I'm just trying to get through your instructions to create
a Rescue CD to restore the bad Win 7 HD and get me back
to where this all started.


Robert


The UAC prompt appears, because Macrium needs the ability
to work at the physical layer. And your first account
on the machine belongs to the Admin group.

When you boot the Macrium CD, that amounts to administrator
powers as well. Although no UAC prompt appears on those screens,
since it's a WinPE (Preinstall Environment).

Paul


So should I try restoring the bad Win7 HD again?

I'm afraid of messing it up since last time I
thought I did it correctly since I didn't have
any msg saying that the drive was busy but
you said I was about to write over my backup HD
with all the Mrimgs even though I had as the source
the HD with the Mrimgs so I don't understand how I
messed up?

Robert
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Old August 6th 19, 04:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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So should I try restoring again?

I'm afraid of messing it up since last time I
thought I did it correctly since I didn't have
any msg saying that the drive was busy but
you said I was about to write over my backup HD
with all the Mrimgs even though I had as the source
the HD with the Mrimgs so I don't understand how I
messed up?
  #329  
Old August 6th 19, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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This is the part of your instructions which has me
confused because your using a blank drive and I'm
not.

As I said, I labeled my HD with the Mrimgs and had
it as the source just as in your pics but you said
I still had it wrong.

https://postimg.cc/6Tpd6JWk

https://postimg.cc/kDRgvffV

https://postimg.cc/ZWwmSdwt

https://postimg.cc/y3hqrgDG

Robert

  #330  
Old August 6th 19, 05:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Robert in CA wrote:
This is the part of your instructions which has me
confused because your using a blank drive and I'm
not.

As I said, I labeled my HD with the Mrimgs and had
it as the source just as in your pics but you said
I still had it wrong.

https://postimg.cc/6Tpd6JWk

https://postimg.cc/kDRgvffV

https://postimg.cc/ZWwmSdwt

https://postimg.cc/y3hqrgDG

Robert


I'm working on it.

First I had to work out some sort of rule
to make it safer.

+-----+--------------------+------------------+
Win7 Disk | MBR | System Reserved F: | Windows 7 C: |
+-----+--------------------+------------------+

+-----+---------------------------------------+
Backup Disk | MBR | Backups E: |
+-----+---------------------------------------+

Here, you can see my two disk setup, which is in the
process of doing a restore.

The disk identifier in this case is consistent, and
I haven't been fiddling with the disk in such a way
that the authenticity of the disk identifier is in
question. My backup file is on E: , I have two disk drives,
and the store is going to the Windows disk (the one
with a matching identifier). And this works, because
I haven't been making backup images of the backup
drive (which is possible, but unlikely). Backup
images should always be stored on a different hard
drive, than the "source" hard drive. Macrium will
likely warn you, if you do otherwise.

https://i.postimg.cc/GtXkMmj0/restore.gif

If you are using your new Macrium CD, plus using
an element of common sense, I don't see how an
insurmountable problem could crop up while restoring
over your Win7 original disk.

It should come back up "Genuine". Because you did the
backup when the OS was "Genuine".

The only "variable" left, is what happens when Windows 10
runs. I don't know of a reason why that matters. Windows 10
can fiddle with the $MFTMIRR, it can disturb $BITMAP,
but all of this is supposed to be "mostly transparent".
(Using a Version 7 Macrium is supposed to be patched
for this kind of issue. From a backup perspective.)

Paul


 




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