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On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: You said all I needed was an ISO but now your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not worth it. I'm not exactly following you,..... Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500? or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put in downloads on the 780 and then create the file? Which do you want me to do? Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been doing so much I don't remember know how to locate it again. Robert If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so you put the Windows ISO file on the 780. This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780 so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have "File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would make the job easier). Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running, go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads folder. You select the Windows ISO. The OSFMount program will show in its status window, that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer, open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install. The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes, then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your programs and keeping your user data. And the install will then happen. THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen, continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job. Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down no matter what you're doing, without using a clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour before it shuts down.) ******* Enter the BIOS using... I have the ISO on the 780 in downloads. Where do I find a copy of the OSFMount program? Can you please provide a download link? I did not see the virtual DVD in your link so I hope this is all self explanatory when I'm doing it. Thanks, Robert |
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On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: You said all I needed was an ISO but now your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not worth it. I'm not exactly following you,..... Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500? or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put in downloads on the 780 and then create the file? Which do you want me to do? Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been doing so much I don't remember know how to locate it again. Robert If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so you put the Windows ISO file on the 780. This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780 so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have "File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would make the job easier). Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running, go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads folder. You select the Windows ISO. The OSFMount program will show in its status window, that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer, open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install. The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes, then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your programs and keeping your user data. And the install will then happen. THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen, continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job. Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down no matter what you're doing, without using a clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour before it shuts down.) ******* Enter the BIOS using... I have the ISO on the 780 in downloads. Where do I find a copy of the OSFMount program? Can you please provide a download link? I did not see the virtual DVD in your link so I hope this is all self explanatory when I'm doing it. Thanks, Robert |
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On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: You said all I needed was an ISO but now your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not worth it. I'm not exactly following you,..... Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500? or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put in downloads on the 780 and then create the file? Which do you want me to do? Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been doing so much I don't remember know how to locate it again. Robert If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so you put the Windows ISO file on the 780. This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780 so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have "File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would make the job easier). Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running, go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads folder. You select the Windows ISO. The OSFMount program will show in its status window, that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer, open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install. The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes, then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your programs and keeping your user data. And the install will then happen. I have the ISO on the 780 in downloads. Where do I find a copy of the OSFMount program? Can you please provide a download link? Thanks, Robert |
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On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: You said all I needed was an ISO but now your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not worth it. I'm not exactly following you,..... Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500? or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put in downloads on the 780 and then create the file? Which do you want me to do? Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been doing so much I don't remember know how to locate it again. Robert If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so you put the Windows ISO file on the 780. This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780 so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have "File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would make the job easier). Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running, go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads folder. You select the Windows ISO. The OSFMount program will show in its status window, that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer, open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install. The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes, then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your programs and keeping your user data. And the install will then happen. THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen, continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job. Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down no matter what you're doing, without using a clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour before it shuts down.) ******* Enter the BIOS u... I have the ISO on the 780 in downloads. Where do I find a copy of the OSFMount program? Can you please provide a download link? Also I keep trying to edit pages by clicking quote original when reply replying but then I can't see my reply. Thanks, Robert |
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On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: You said all I needed was an ISO but now your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not worth it. I'm not exactly following you,..... Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500? or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put in downloads on the 780 and then create the file? Which do you want me to do? Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been doing so much I don't remember know how to locate it again. Robert If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so you put the Windows ISO file on the 780. This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780 so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have "File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would make the job easier). Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running, go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads folder. You select the Windows ISO. The OSFMount program will show in its status window, that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer, open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install. The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes, then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your programs and keeping your user data. And the install will then happen. THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen, continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job. Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down no matter what you're doing, without using a clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour before it shuts down.) ******* Enter the BIOS using F2. Select the Drives entry. Find the window with SATA 1,2,3,4, and ESATA. You want (perhaps) SATA 1 and SATA 2 turned on (HDD and optical drive), while SATA 3 (Win10) remains unticked. That way, while the Repair Install is happening, the Win10 disk will be unaffected. You've probably already set things up that way anyway, and this is just a reminder. I think you told me you were already running RAID ON and SATA 1 and SATA 2 ticked. Pau No no no,... we went to a screen where it actually had two boxes that were label Win7 and Win 10 and we un-ticked Win7. I want to go back and un-tick Win10 but I don't remember where it was or how to get there? Here are the SATA's; remember it didn't like SATA1 and SATA2 being ticked and gave the F1 error? I did not make any changes. https://postimg.cc/hXNrMX3J https://postimg.cc/hJ99rpdw Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: You said all I needed was an ISO but now your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not worth it. I'm not exactly following you,..... Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500? or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put in downloads on the 780 and then create the file? Which do you want me to do? Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been doing so much I don't remember know how to locate it again. Robert If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so you put the Windows ISO file on the 780. This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780 so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have "File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would make the job easier). Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running, go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads folder. You select the Windows ISO. The OSFMount program will show in its status window, that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer, open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install. The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes, then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your programs and keeping your user data. And the install will then happen. THis assumes that the Windows 7 with the black screen, continues to run long enough for Setup.exe to do its job. Once the grace period runs out, the "table manners" of the OS will degrade - it can shut the machine down no matter what you're doing, without using a clean shutdown either. I've never tried to Repair Install a "Not Genuine" OS before, so I don't know whether the Setup.exe can override the half-hour timer. (The copy of Windows 7 I run in the Not Genuine state, is an Enterprise version, and it runs for half-an-hour before it shuts down.) ******* Enter the BIOS using F2. Select the Drives entry. Find the window with SATA 1,2,3,4, and ESATA. You want (perhaps) SATA 1 and SATA 2 turned on (HDD and optical drive), while SATA 3 (Win10) remains unticked. That way, while the Repair Install is happening, the Win10 disk will be unaffected. You've probably already set things up that way anyway, and this is just a reminder. I think you told me you were already running RAID ON and SATA 1 and SATA 2 ticked. Pau No no no,... we went to a screen where it actually had two boxes that were label Win7 and Win 10 and we un-ticked Win7. I want to go back and un-tick Win10 but I don't remember where it was or how to get there? Here are the SATA's; remember it didn't like SATA1 and SATA2 being ticked and gave the F1 error? I did not make any changes. https://postimg.cc/hXNrMX3J https://postimg.cc/hJ99rpdw Robert You currently have two items ticked. The bottom pane on the right, says SATA 1 is 2TB hard drive. Is that the Windows 7 disk ? OK, then you're ready to reinstall Windows 7. The SATA 2 drive is the TSSTCorp DVD drive. Which we don't need right now particularly, but it's handy to leave it there. The SATA 3 port is disabled at the moment, so the bottom pane cannot print out what drive is on there. It could well be the Windows 10 drive, and since it is unticked, we know the Windows 10 drive is not accessible. So all you have to do right now, is acknowledge that "2TB 1ER164" is the Windows 7 drive. I think you're ready to go. ******* Select an executable suitable for your x64 Win7 (Non-Genuine) OS. And pray the OS doesn't do something nasty before Setup.exe has had a chance to start :-) https://www.osforensics.com/tools/mo...sk-images.html This shows a picture of a mounted ISO and what some of the things will look like. https://i.postimg.cc/G2gwNm6V/OSFMOUNTer.gif ******* Any time you want to start a fresh thread, Google Groups will load faster for you. I notice the Google Groups in-screen search is dead, and the ability to access a particular "page" in a long thread, is as slow as molasses now. Truly a victory for the software people at Google. So much nice work on their part :-/ It's damn close to useless now. Paul |
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:49:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:15:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: You said all I needed was an ISO but now your saying your not sure. As I stated I'm not going to risk the 8500 in any of this. It's not worth it. I'm not exactly following you,..... Are you saying you want me to put the ISO file on a DVD-R disc? using Image Burn on the 8500? or are you saying put the file on the Patriot and put in downloads on the 780 and then create the file? Which do you want me to do? Also, how do I turn off the Win 10 drive,... I've been doing so much I don't remember know how to locate it again. Robert If the ISO file was sitting on your 8500, you transfer it to the 780 hard drive and its "Not Genuine" C: drive. Your Downloads folder over there, isn't going anywhere, so you put the Windows ISO file on the 780. This might require copying the ISO file onto the Patriot USB stick and carrying the USB stick over to the 780 so you can copy it onto the 780. You might not have "File Sharing" set up on your machines (which would make the job easier). Once the Windows 7 ISO file is over on the 780, you grab a copy of the OSFMount program, start it running, go to the File menu and navigate to your Downloads folder. You select the Windows ISO. The OSFMount program will show in its status window, that the file is now mounted. Now, go to File Explorer, open the new virtual DVD drive you see in there, and double click the Setup.exe to start a Repair Install. The Upgrade Advisor should grind for a few minutes, then tell you it will Repair Install, keeping your programs and keeping your user data. And the install will then happen. I tried to do it but the OSFMount doesn't respond to anything. I tried clicking file(upper left) to find the downloads, and just about everything but no response at all on anything I clicked. https://postimg.cc/Z9bPGvXf What am I doing wrong? Robert |
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I tried to do it but the OSFMount doesn't respond to anything. I tried clicking file(upper left) to find the downloads, and just about everything but no response at all on anything I clicked. https://postimg.cc/Z9bPGvXf What am I doing wrong? Robert Have a look at this picture. https://i.postimg.cc/d3P8mfy9/download-then-run.gif Paul |
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 7:54:21 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: I tried to do it but the OSFMount doesn't respond to anything. I tried clicking file(upper left) to find the downloads, and just about everything but no response at all on anything I clicked. https://postimg.cc/Z9bPGvXf What am I doing wrong? Robert Have a look at this picture. https://i.postimg.cc/d3P8mfy9/download-then-run.gif Paul I followed your instructions but man so many questions it asked that I just had to guess my way though since you didn't provide instructions. I just hope I did this right. It says it needs to logoff several times during this process. I elected to install a new copy of Win7 instead of a upgrading to a newer version thinking it might load Win 8 or Win 10. https://postimg.cc/Cz3hhyhf https://postimg.cc/rzbcj6tY https://postimg.cc/1gJ1NbQB https://postimg.cc/XrbR1nNx https://postimg.cc/K3t9tgTb https://postimg.cc/dLB6vFm5 https://postimg.cc/gX2XV962 https://postimg.cc/xkTT7vjs https://postimg.cc/Mns8nhxD https://postimg.cc/4HJg7ZKW https://postimg.cc/gxfby3XX https://postimg.cc/HjWRy6Zv https://postimg.cc/YLjdyyTp https://postimg.cc/XZVczzyT Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 7:54:21 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: I tried to do it but the OSFMount doesn't respond to anything. I tried clicking file(upper left) to find the downloads, and just about everything but no response at all on anything I clicked. https://postimg.cc/Z9bPGvXf What am I doing wrong? Robert Have a look at this picture. https://i.postimg.cc/d3P8mfy9/download-then-run.gif Paul I followed your instructions but man so many questions it asked that I just had to guess my way though since you didn't provide instructions. I just hope I did this right. It says it needs to logoff several times during this process. I elected to install a new copy of Win7 instead of a upgrading to a newer version thinking it might load Win 8 or Win 10. https://postimg.cc/Cz3hhyhf E drive mounted https://postimg.cc/rzbcj6tY E listing https://postimg.cc/1gJ1NbQB W7 installer runs https://postimg.cc/XrbR1nNx https://postimg.cc/K3t9tgTb Get updates button https://postimg.cc/dLB6vFm5 Accept license terms https://postimg.cc/gX2XV962 "Upgrade" install https://postimg.cc/xkTT7vjs Install into C: as primary https://postimg.cc/Mns8nhxD Says moving Windows to Windows.old https://postimg.cc/4HJg7ZKW Copying files phase... https://postimg.cc/gxfby3XX https://postimg.cc/HjWRy6Zv First restart. https://postimg.cc/YLjdyyTp https://postimg.cc/XZVczzyT Strangely, status screen is still present? The DVD image cannot mount at this point so that isn't possible. Robert An "Upgrade" install is functionally a "Repair" install in this case. While you are clicking the "Upgrade" button, it is a Repair. It would work like this. Vista SP2 Push Upgrade button Get Win7 SP1 (equals "an Upgrade") Win7 SP1 Push Upgrade button Get Win7 SP1 (equals "a Repair") When the OS comes back up, your desktop icons should be intact, implying it is finished the Repair. Since you entered the Refurb key at the start, then it should also be activated if you look at the System Control Panel or if you try this from command prompt slmgr /dlv The screen should no longer be black in color. It should be the blue swirly thing implying it is activated again. It looks like it worked, but take a look around and verify. HTH, Paul |
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:58:13 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
Success! https://postimg.cc/BLL5yqDt Robert |
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Success! https://postimg.cc/G4tHm45g https://postimg.cc/F1bGQH8J https://postimg.cc/hzW8Hk0r https://postimg.cc/qgGc5Z6s https://postimg.cc/p98zY0tn https://postimg.cc/c6dwwMkr https://postimg.cc/Q9mB0wYV Am presently checking for updates and then will download Avast etc. As always, I have unusual problems to solve and this one unique. So that it can be recovered with an ISO. Many thanks for your patience and help and explaining things. I really appreciate it. Is there any thing else we should do at this point? Robert I see Windows is being its usual helpful self with the updates thing. A repair install takes it back to raw SP1. There is a rollup that cuts off some of the updates. "Servicing Stack" - Windows 7 for x64 - 9.1MB (Download the .msu and run it) https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...px?q=KB3020369 "Rollup" - Windows 7 for x64 - 476.9MB (Download the .msu and run it) https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...px?q=KB3125574 After the reboot, there might be a hundred more updates to do. And that one isn't really all that fast at installing. It saves some time, but not a lot. If you want a web site detailing the info above, try this one. The catalog.update.microsoft.com site is "all fixed up" now so should work with your browser. I used the "catalog" site to get both of these. https://www.howtogeek.com/255435/how...nience-rollup/ ******* If you've pushed the button to install all 150 updates in one shot before reading this message, relax... it's going to take hours to do, so be patient. Even if you brought Windows 7 SP1 up to date with the Wsusoffline kit, it would still take a *lot* of time. Interfering with the install order, by doing the top section of this post, saves about an hour. If you have already pushed the button, you've probably done an hours worth by now anyway. Paul |
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:58:13 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: Success! https://postimg.cc/BLL5yqDt Robert Now see, that's huge. I hope that installs OK. Paul |
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 3:57:27 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 12:58:13 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: Success! https://postimg.cc/BLL5yqDt Robert Now see, that's huge. I hope that installs OK. Paul I installed all important updates with (1) remaining and then will install the (6)optional updates and in between setting up Explorer and Firefox for some reason it doesn't accept my password for Yahoo? I also tried to download free Avast but when I did it took me to another screen where there were (4) download buttons and didn't know which one to pick. Why do they make downloads so confusing? You know my history of picking the wrong one and I'm not going to risk anything at this stage so could you please provide me with a link for Avast free? I still have malwarebytes, Spywareblaster SuperantiSpyware to install and I hope they will be easier. Robert |
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