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  #16  
Old November 17th 19, 12:46 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
David
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Default OT - What3words: The app that can save your life

On 17/11/2019 11:36, Andy Burns wrote:
Steve H wrote:

I think it's a great app.


Just make sure you don't confuse for example parents.appeal.form with
parent.appeal.forms, one's in London, the other near Sacramento.


A great example! Point taken. :-D

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Old November 17th 19, 12:52 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Default OT - What3words: The app that can save your life

David wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Just make sure you don't confuse for example parents.appeal.form with
parent.appeal.forms, one's in London, the other near Sacramento.


A great example!


Obviously far enough apart that the mistake should be obvious to the
emergency services, can anyone come up with an example that is close
enough not to be obvious, but far enough apart that someone could be at
risk of help not arriving?
  #18  
Old November 17th 19, 01:17 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Sara Merriman
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Default OT - What3words: The app that can save your life

In article , Andy Burns
wrote:

David wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Just make sure you don't confuse for example parents.appeal.form with
parent.appeal.forms, one's in London, the other near Sacramento.


A great example!


Obviously far enough apart that the mistake should be obvious to the
emergency services, can anyone come up with an example that is close
enough not to be obvious, but far enough apart that someone could be at
risk of help not arriving?


How would they know which word was wrong? Or wrong in which way? Should
the 's' have been appended to 'appeal' instead? Is there another
ambiguity? Should 'appeal' have been 'peal' or maybe 'parents' should
be 'presents'.
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Old November 17th 19, 01:29 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Sara Merriman wrote:

How would they know which word was wrong?


https://what3words.com/dyslexia.risks.mistake
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Old November 17th 19, 01:38 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default OT - What3words: The app that can save your life

On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 11:46:23 +0000, David wrote:

On 17/11/2019 11:36, Andy Burns wrote:
Steve H wrote:

I think it's a great app.


Just make sure you don't confuse for example parents.appeal.form with
parent.appeal.forms, one's in London, the other near Sacramento.


A great example! Point taken.


You started the phishing/spam thread. IN YOUR OWN WORDS,
explain how the scam works. AFTER you've read about it.

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Old November 17th 19, 02:11 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default OT - What3words: The app that can save your life

Sara Merriman wrote:

In article , Andy Burns
wrote:

David wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Just make sure you don't confuse for example parents.appeal.form with
parent.appeal.forms, one's in London, the other near Sacramento.

A great example!


Obviously far enough apart that the mistake should be obvious to the
emergency services, can anyone come up with an example that is close
enough not to be obvious, but far enough apart that someone could be at
risk of help not arriving?


How would they know which word was wrong? Or wrong in which way? Should
the 's' have been appended to 'appeal' instead? Is there another
ambiguity? Should 'appeal' have been 'peal' or maybe 'parents' should
be 'presents'.


But less chance of an error than there is if trying to read out a string
of several digits to someone over the phone.
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  #22  
Old November 17th 19, 02:12 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default OT - What3words: The app that can save your life

In article , Andy Burns
wrote:

Just make sure you don't confuse for example parents.appeal.form with
parent.appeal.forms, one's in London, the other near Sacramento.


that's very surprising, since the creator of what3words stated that
they carefully chose the words so that situations like that could not
happen.
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Old November 17th 19, 02:39 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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nospam wrote:

the creator of what3words stated that
they carefully chose the words so that situations like that could not
happen.


Speak slowly and clearly when the axe-murderer corners you.

https://what3words.com/think.credits.apply
https://what3words.com/think.credit.supply

  #24  
Old November 17th 19, 04:48 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article h3d0tjFjb5oU1
@mid.individual.net,
says...

nospam wrote:

the creator of what3words stated that
they carefully chose the words so that situations like that could not
happen.


Speak slowly and clearly when the axe-murderer corners you.

https://what3words.com/think.credits.apply
https://what3words.com/think.credit.supply


Perhaps there's a protocol that you
would say "dot" betwween each word.

that.wood.help in your example.

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  #25  
Old November 17th 19, 05:51 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 15/11/2019 17:14, Apd wrote:
"David" wrote:
Police have urged everyone to download a smartphone app they say has
already saved several lives. What is it and how does it work?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-49319760


And in later BBC news there's some criticism...

What3words: 'Life-saving app' divides opinion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49754820


Once the three words have been passed to the rescue agencies there is no
need for ANY electronic equipment to be functional on or near the
person(s) requiring assistance.

It will be a boon to boaters all over the world - and to many other folk
too. In particular to those who do not have a mains power supply close
at hand.

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Old November 17th 19, 06:40 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:51:23 +0000, David wrote:

On 15/11/2019 17:14, Apd wrote:
"David" wrote:
Police have urged everyone to download a smartphone app they say has
already saved several lives. What is it and how does it work?


CUT_SCAM

Once the three words have been passed to the rescue agencies there is no
need for ANY electronic equipment to be functional on or near the
person(s) requiring assistance.


And if the equipment is not functioning before the accident?

Picture this: A drunk on a toy boat drops his cellphone into
the sewerage, While trying to retrieve it, he goes overboard too. So
how are the words "drunk.stalker.drowning" going to help him?

PS You still haven't explained how it works. Please do, IN
YOUR OWN WORDS. Some people here think you didn't even bother to read
the technical specs. Ridiculous, right?

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Old November 17th 19, 07:16 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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David wrote:
Once the three words have been passed to the rescue agencies there is no
need for ANY electronic equipment to be functional on or near the
person(s) requiring assistance.


- it seems to me that one needs to have such as a phone both to
'determine' one's location AND to convey one's location to the help agency
- it further seems to me that if one has such an electronic device for
receiving coordinates and for transmitting the info, that 'device'
/language/ is perfectly satisfactory; there is not NEED for 'human'
language, ie words are unnecessary
- the process of internet to device to agency can be perfectly well
handled w/o any human words, with the possible exception of HELP!.

It will be a boon to boaters all over the world - and to many other folk
too. In particular to those who do not have a mains power supply close
at hand.


For some time people in the wilderness w/ a phone have been able to call
for help and locate themselves to the agency. The 'language' is the
coordinates, not some word derivation from that. It seems to me to be
an unnecessary conversion from numerical coordinates to human words and
back to numerical coordinates again. A pointless (and proprietary)
round-robin.

I have no problem w/ someone 'inventing' something and then shilling it
to various businesses by causing them to believe that having words to
represent their business location is more attractive to the public than
some other method such as numbers; but I don't think the 'necessity' of
it for life-saving is an accurate concept.

I also find it of interest that some jurisdictions have so much trouble
w/ their grids or postal codes or 'house numbers' that they have no
other means of id/ing a person's house address than 3 such words. In
that case, in the public good, such a system of words should be
non-proprietary, ie free and open source, such as for Mongolia.


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Old November 17th 19, 07:53 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2019-11-17 12:16 p.m., Mike Easter wrote:
David wrote:
Once the three words have been passed to the rescue agencies there is
no need for ANY electronic equipment to be functional on or near the
person(s) requiring assistance.


Â*- it seems to me that one needs to have such as a phone both to
'determine' one's location AND to convey one's location to the help agency
Â*- it further seems to me that if one has such an electronic device for
receiving coordinates and for transmitting the info, that 'device'
/language/ is perfectly satisfactory; there is not NEED for 'human'
language, ie words are unnecessary
Â*- the process of internet to device to agency can be perfectly well
handled w/o any human words, with the possible exception of HELP!.

It will be a boon to boaters all over the world - and to many other
folk too. In particular to those who do not have a mains power supply
close at hand.


For some time people in the wilderness w/ a phone have been able to call
for help and locate themselves to the agency.Â* The 'language' is the
coordinates, not some word derivation from that.Â* It seems to me to be
an unnecessary conversion from numerical coordinates to human words and
back to numerical coordinates again.Â* A pointless (and proprietary)
round-robin.

I have no problem w/ someone 'inventing' something and then shilling it
to various businesses by causing them to believe that having words to
represent their business location is more attractive to the public than
some other method such as numbers; but I don't think the 'necessity' of
it for life-saving is an accurate concept.

I also find it of interest that some jurisdictions have so much trouble
w/ their grids or postal codes or 'house numbers' that they have no
other means of id/ing a person's house address than 3 such words.Â* In
that case, in the public good, such a system of words should be
non-proprietary, ie free and open source, such as for Mongolia.



Longitude and latitude have always worked fine for me and will continue
doing so as long as I'm here.

Rene

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Old November 17th 19, 07:57 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

Longitude and latitude have always worked fine for me and will continue
doing so as long as I'm here.


except if you transpose two digits, skip a digit or fat-finger it and
tap the wrong digit...
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Old November 17th 19, 08:19 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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nospam wrote:

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Longitude and latitude have always worked fine for me and will continue
doing so as long as I'm here.


except if you transpose two digits, skip a digit or fat-finger it and
tap the wrong digit...


so add a check(sum|digit) rather than turning it all into words with a
proprietary scheme.
 




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