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Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to
hit "Reply All" when answering this post. A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask! LOL I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to use for searching to find out how to do this. Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her? -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 11/05/2016 12:54 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask! LOL I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to use for searching to find out how to do this. Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her? I use bluetooth to keep the contacts on my phone and computer in sync all of the time. To break the connection, all she has to do is turn off bluetooth on one of the devices. Some time it is more convenient to transfer pictures by bluetooth from my phone to the computer, rather than fuss with sending them . One of the things that was developed on the Old Palm handhelds was the ability to transfer vcard though the wireless connection. While today it is done through bluetooth, the function is still available on todays phones, or at least some of the phones. I turn the bluetooth off on both the computer and the phone. I only turn it on when I want to transfer something. I do not want the Bluetooth transmission on when I am out in the world. |
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On 2016-11-05 12:54, Ken Springer wrote:
Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask! LOL I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to use for searching to find out how to do this. Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her? The "connector" is iTunes, methinks. Log off of the iTunes (Apple) account in the iTunes on that machine. I believe that will do it, but any backups of the iPhone (if any) on that computer will remain there (encrypted or not). To delete those (if required) https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/delete-...ackups-itunes/ not sure how up to date that is. IIRC to "connect" an iPhone to iTunes the physical cable had to be present. So she would have had to do that as a first step. She may also have used 3rd party s/w to do it - which is another kettle of fish. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn. |
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Ken Springer wrote:
Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. Usenet is not an e-mail venue. Reply All does not apply. Reply will copy the Newsgroups header from the post to which you reply into your own post. A respondent would have to edit that header in their reply before submitting it. Maybe Thunderbird works different than many other NNTP clients that I've used. A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Have her remove the other Bluetooth host from her PC's Bluetooth devices list. I don't use OS/X (presumably what is on the Mac). In Windows, I enter "bluetooth" in the Start menu search bar and select "Bluetooth Devices". Another is to run "C:\Windows\System32\control.exe bthprops.cpl" (sans quotes). I don't have any connected to my computer right now but I suspect you right-click on a device and either disconnect/disable it or delete that connectoid. https://www.google.com/search?q=mac%...tooth%20device Google's info-hit looks like you do similar on Mac OS/X. |
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In article , Keith Nuttle
wrote: A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old... I use bluetooth to keep the contacts on my phone and computer in sync all of the time. To break the connection, all she has to do is turn off bluetooth on one of the devices. Some time it is more convenient to transfer pictures by bluetooth from my phone to the computer, rather than fuss with sending them . that does not apply to iphones, the subject of the question. One of the things that was developed on the Old Palm handhelds was the ability to transfer vcard though the wireless connection. While today it is done through bluetooth, the function is still available on todays phones, or at least some of the phones. no it isn't. smartphones do not use bluetooth to sync stuff because it's very slow and has limited range. these days, just about everything is done over wifi and sometimes usb. bluetooth is suitable for headphones, btle accessories, setting up peer to peer wifi and also to aid location services. not syncing. I turn the bluetooth off on both the computer and the phone. I only turn it on when I want to transfer something. I do not want the Bluetooth transmission on when I am out in the world. that's incredibly stupid. |
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On 2016-11-05, Ken Springer wrote:
Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. That would be a terribly inefficient way to transfer contacts to a phone. Bluetooth transfers are so 80s. What you typically do with iOS devices is synchronize them to Windows address book or Outlook Express through the iTunes application installed on the computer. That would be done through either the USB cable (the default method) or WiFi (an opt-in optional feature of iTunes). Most people I know do iTunes WiFi sync, which is really convenient because the sync happens automatically without any user interaction whenever the iOS device is plugged into a power charge cable on the same WiFi network. You don't even have to think about it. It just happens in the background. Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask! LOL Because she wanted her contacts to be on the phone? ; ) I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so. I recall discussions recently where people talked about using more manual methods than iTunes synchronization, like sending the contacts through email, or using iOS apps that receive data over WiFi. If she didn't use iTunes, I don't think she needs to worry about breaking any link. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. If so, maybe she can post here herself so she can answer questions directly rather than essentially playing the telephone game with all of us? Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to use for searching to find out how to do this. Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her? Depends on what she did to establish the link to begin with. If she connected the phone to the computer with the USB cable and ran iTunes to sync contacts to the phone, then she would seen an alert on the phone asking her if it should "trust this computer" when she first plugged it in. If she tapped "Trust" on that dialog, and she wants to undo that, on the phone she can tap Settings General Reset Reset Location & Privacy to revoke the trust. The next time the phone is connected to a computer, the dialog will display asking if the computer should be trusted again. More details about trust settings is he https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202778 If she's talking about some other type of "link" with the computer, then she'll need to explain what specifically makes her think the phone is still linked with the computer and how she wants that to change. It could be she simply *suspects* it is linked and there's no actual problem to solve. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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On 11/5/16 11:22 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-11-05 12:54, Ken Springer wrote: Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask! LOL I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to use for searching to find out how to do this. Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her? The "connector" is iTunes, methinks. This is possible. Using iTunes was one of the methods she was given by some Apple store tech or Apple help itself. I don't know which. Log off of the iTunes (Apple) account in the iTunes on that machine. I believe that will do it, but any backups of the iPhone (if any) on that computer will remain there (encrypted or not). We were just Skyping, and she doesn't know if she logged off or not. Hopefully, I can find out later. To delete those (if required) https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/delete-...ackups-itunes/ not sure how up to date that is. IIRC to "connect" an iPhone to iTunes the physical cable had to be present. So she would have had to do that as a first step. She may also have used 3rd party s/w to do it - which is another kettle of fish. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 11/5/16 11:48 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Ken Springer wrote: Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. Usenet is not an e-mail venue. Reply All does not apply. Reply will copy the Newsgroups header from the post to which you reply into your own post. A respondent would have to edit that header in their reply before submitting it. Maybe Thunderbird works different than many other NNTP clients that I've used. Thunderbird does do some things a bit nonstandard, and I've come to the conclusion other news agents also do things a bit nonstandard. Just using the Reply button in TB automatically adds all the newsgroups to the header. Reply all include the sender in the header. I have had folks wish to send me their reply in email. So, I just go with the Reply All and let the chips fall where they may. G A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Have her remove the other Bluetooth host from her PC's Bluetooth devices list. I don't use OS/X (presumably what is on the Mac). In Windows, I enter "bluetooth" in the Start menu search bar and select "Bluetooth Devices". Another is to run "C:\Windows\System32\control.exe bthprops.cpl" (sans quotes). I don't have any connected to my computer right now but I suspect you right-click on a device and either disconnect/disable it or delete that connectoid. It's an iPhone, which uses iOS, not OS X. https://www.google.com/search?q=mac%...tooth%20device Google's info-hit looks like you do similar on Mac OS/X. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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Ken Springer wrote:
On 11/5/16 11:48 AM, VanguardLH wrote: Ken Springer wrote: Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. Usenet is not an e-mail venue. Reply All does not apply. Reply will copy the Newsgroups header from the post to which you reply into your own post. A respondent would have to edit that header in their reply before submitting it. Maybe Thunderbird works different than many other NNTP clients that I've used. Thunderbird does do some things a bit nonstandard, and I've come to the conclusion other news agents also do things a bit nonstandard. Just using the Reply button in TB automatically adds all the newsgroups to the header. Reply all include the sender in the header. I have had folks wish to send me their reply in email. So, I just go with the Reply All and let the chips fall where they may. G A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Have her remove the other Bluetooth host from her PC's Bluetooth devices list. I don't use OS/X (presumably what is on the Mac). In Windows, I enter "bluetooth" in the Start menu search bar and select "Bluetooth Devices". Another is to run "C:\Windows\System32\control.exe bthprops.cpl" (sans quotes). I don't have any connected to my computer right now but I suspect you right-click on a device and either disconnect/disable it or delete that connectoid. It's an iPhone, which uses iOS, not OS X. You threw me with "I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved." You also cross-posted to a *mac* newsgroup, not to an iPhone newsgroup. https://www.google.com/search?q=mac%...tooth%20device Google's info-hit looks like you do similar on Mac OS/X. Just change "mac" to "ios". |
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On 11/5/16 2:00 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2016-11-05, Ken Springer wrote: Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. That would be a terribly inefficient way to transfer contacts to a phone. Bluetooth transfers are so 80s. What you typically do with iOS devices is synchronize them to Windows address book or Outlook Express through the iTunes application installed on the computer. That would be done through either the USB cable (the default method) or WiFi (an opt-in optional feature of iTunes). Most people I know do iTunes WiFi sync, which is really convenient because the sync happens automatically without any user interaction whenever the iOS device is plugged into a power charge cable on the same WiFi network. You don't even have to think about it. It just happens in the background. The iPhone is a company phone given to her SO to use for work. The initial problems were basically 2... He's a total computer bozo, and that's the best I can say for him from what I know, and the company disabled the old phone almost immediately from what I can tell, which disabled the old phone's ability to get contacts transferred easily. At least, one would hope it would be easy. Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask! LOL Because she wanted her contacts to be on the phone? ; ) Well, duh! LOL I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so. I recall discussions recently where people talked about using more manual methods than iTunes synchronization, like sending the contacts through email, or using iOS apps that receive data over WiFi. If she didn't use iTunes, I don't think she needs to worry about breaking any link. All of the synchronization methods she found did not work. I do not know if she followed them correctly, either. But somehow she did finally get them all transferred manually. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. If so, maybe she can post here herself so she can answer questions directly rather than essentially playing the telephone game with all of us? I think I would rather put my head in the mouth of a crocodile! LOL She does not want to have anything to do with Smartphones, which doesn't help. And I can't even get her to use a vendor's forums to ask for help. So, sadly she wastes a lot of time trying to get things done sometime, and at the same time elevating her frustration level. It's even hard to get her to press F! (Windows) for help sometimes. Don't blame her too much for that, most online help today is worthless to a totally new user. For me, it's not easy, as she often leaves out pertinent facts, or explains things in a way that is not always totally clear, uses vocabulary that is often of her own choosing. :-( Sure makes it hard to understand what she actually did, and what she actually wants to do. Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to use for searching to find out how to do this. Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her? Depends on what she did to establish the link to begin with. If she connected the phone to the computer with the USB cable and ran iTunes to sync contacts to the phone, then she would seen an alert on the phone asking her if it should "trust this computer" when she first plugged it in. I don't think she used any physical connection, doubt if they even have one. If she tapped "Trust" on that dialog, and she wants to undo that, on the phone she can tap Settings General Reset Reset Location & Privacy to revoke the trust. The next time the phone is connected to a computer, the dialog will display asking if the computer should be trusted again. More details about trust settings is he https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202778 If she's talking about some other type of "link" with the computer, then she'll need to explain what specifically makes her think the phone is still linked with the computer and how she wants that to change. It could be she simply *suspects* it is linked and there's no actual problem to solve. She thinks something about the iPhone triggers OneNote to run on the computer. She was really POed and insisted OneNote wasn't on the computer and the iPhone installed it. She didn't know it was a Metro App, and doesn't show up in Programs and Features. I think something her SO did on the computer is triggering OneNote, not some connection between the two devices. But I don't have the ability to try and see things for myself. She won't even install Skype or Teamviewer on his computer so I can see what's happening. The SO is off snowboarding for the weekend, maybe I can get her to temporarily install Skype or Teamviewer tonight, and the remove them after I try to figure out what's going on. Stay tuned. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 11/5/16 4:40 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Ken Springer wrote: On 11/5/16 11:48 AM, VanguardLH wrote: Ken Springer wrote: Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. Usenet is not an e-mail venue. Reply All does not apply. Reply will copy the Newsgroups header from the post to which you reply into your own post. A respondent would have to edit that header in their reply before submitting it. Maybe Thunderbird works different than many other NNTP clients that I've used. Thunderbird does do some things a bit nonstandard, and I've come to the conclusion other news agents also do things a bit nonstandard. Just using the Reply button in TB automatically adds all the newsgroups to the header. Reply all include the sender in the header. I have had folks wish to send me their reply in email. So, I just go with the Reply All and let the chips fall where they may. G A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Have her remove the other Bluetooth host from her PC's Bluetooth devices list. I don't use OS/X (presumably what is on the Mac). In Windows, I enter "bluetooth" in the Start menu search bar and select "Bluetooth Devices". Another is to run "C:\Windows\System32\control.exe bthprops.cpl" (sans quotes). I don't have any connected to my computer right now but I suspect you right-click on a device and either disconnect/disable it or delete that connectoid. It's an iPhone, which uses iOS, not OS X. You threw me with "I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved." You also cross-posted to a *mac* newsgroup, not to an iPhone newsgroup. I don't have any iOS devices, so I don't follow those newsgroups, although they were given to me in the other thread. But experience in the local Mac user group is Mac users tend to have both OS X computers and iOS devices. So went with the Mac group. I've learned the Mac group is like the Windows groups, there are a core bunch of helpful posters in both groups that know their stuff. So I did the Mac group out of habit. G https://www.google.com/search?q=mac%...tooth%20device Google's info-hit looks like you do similar on Mac OS/X. Just change "mac" to "ios". I'll see what happens later tonight before trying the link. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 10:54:02 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:
Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. I don't think "reply all" means what you think it means. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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On 11-05-2016 12:22, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I use bluetooth to keep the contacts on my phone and computer in sync all of the time. To break the connection, all she has to do is turn off bluetooth on one of the devices. Some time it is more convenient to transfer pictures by bluetooth from my phone to the computer, rather than fuss with sending them . And it will automatically reconnect when you turn it on again. |
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On 11/5/16 5:01 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
HI, JR snip She thinks something about the iPhone triggers OneNote to run on the computer. She was really POed and insisted OneNote wasn't on the computer and the iPhone installed it. She didn't know it was a Metro App, and doesn't show up in Programs and Features. I think something her SO did on the computer is triggering OneNote, not some connection between the two devices. But I don't have the ability to try and see things for myself. She won't even install Skype or Teamviewer on his computer so I can see what's happening. The SO is off snowboarding for the weekend, maybe I can get her to temporarily install Skype or Teamviewer tonight, and the remove them after I try to figure out what's going on. Stay tuned. I was able to get her to run Teamviewer in the "run once" mode, which means the program wasn't actually installed. Now I could actually look at the computer. And then a surprise... OneNote was not listed in the Start Screen, the full page you saw on all the systems in the store when W8 was introduced. But, on my W8 machine, it is listed. But my W8 install is an original 8.0 retail copy upgraded to 8.1. After some research, we unhid a folder on the boot drive, did a search, and found 5 OneNote entries. So it is installed, just not listed on the Start Screen. I found out you can hide Metro Apps, but how to unhide them, not so much info. And a lot of info appears to apply to 8.0 and not 8.1. Since she didn't think OneNote was even installed, it means she did nothing to hide it. My conclusion is Acer hid it for some reason. Apparently, OneNote would start for the SO when he turned the computer on. And the iPhone was with him. Last night OneNote did not start, but there's no iPhone in the house. She was adamant about deleting files from the computer to solve the problem, so I picked the one file from the search that I think has the least possibility of causing issues and let her delete it. After a cold boot OneNote did not start, but we need to wait until the iPhone comes home to see what happens. You can remove Metro apps, but it's a rather convoluted process. I found instructions on removing apps when they are listed on the Start Screen. I checked my system, and you can uninstall from the Start Screen. At this point, I've found no other instructions on how to remove Metro Apps. To reinstall, it appears you have to go to the Microsoft Store. So it's now a waiting game, waiting for the iPhone to come home and then see what happens. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.11.6 Firefox 49.0.1 Thunderbird 45.3.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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Ken Springer wrote: Yes, this is cross posted to Mac and Windows. LOL So don't forget to hit "Reply All" when answering this post. A friend of mine has linked her SO's iPhone 6S, I think, to his Windows 8.1 computer. She did this trying to get the contacts from his old pre-Android Verizon phone to the iPhone. She thinks she did this by using Bluetooth, which makes no sense to me. Don't ask me why she did this, and I don't want to ask! LOL I have a previous thread in the Mac group about getting the contacts moved. Now she would like to break that link between the two. I'm sure it can be done. I use a Tracphone (mobile devices don't work where I live) and have no other devices that will sync, and actually no reason to do so. Her searches on the web have been unsuccessful, and she is smarter than the average user. Since I don't use any devices that do this, I don't know what terms to use for searching to find out how to do this. Anyone know of a good web site that has easy to follow instructions for her? Unplug the USB cable Einstein. |
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