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Need Data Recovery from HD
With all you have done to the 80 gig drive, data recovery is now a "moot
point". You have already destroyed much of what you want to recover by using the drive and performing a recovery on the drive. When you lose data -STOP. Assess your options. The time for data recovery software is "prior" to doing anything else with the drive. You can use EasyRecovery Professional (expensive) from www.ontrack.com. If you buy the program, and it doesn't work, they allow you to apply the cost of the program toward their In House recovery service (even MORE expensive)! -- Regards: Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) "Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message ... Physical damage forced me to change mother boards. It was time anyway. Prior to changing the m-boards but after the damage incident, the old m-board worked for a short time without the keyboard or mouse functioning; however, Windows XP came up and I saw the desktop. This indicates the hard drive, an 80 GB Western Digital, was working at least at that time and at least sufficiently to provide the Windows XP desktop. I installed a new m-board but soon found couldn't boot Windows XP off the 80 GB HD. I happened to have a 15 GB HD on the shelf which also had WinXP on it. I hooked that up, but still I couldn't boot XP. I repair-installed XP (not from the recovery counsel) on the 15 GB HD, and now I have a working XP machine with that HD, but, of course, all my data is on the 80 GB. I disconnected the 15 GB HD and tried the repair-install on the 80 GB HD, but when the install completed, and I tired to boot, I got the error screen saying I should check for viruses, unhook any new HDs, and run CHKDSK. I called MS, and the guy ran through another repair-install with me and then had me run CHKDSK /R (if I remember correctly) on the 80 GB HD (jumpered as slave) from DOS. CHKDSK supposedly repaired some sections making the drive smaller. It now comes up as 31 GB. But I can't open the drive. When I try, a small alert comes up saying the drive is not formatted and would I like to do so. So... Is there anyway I can read the (previously) 80 GB drive? If I need some data recovery software, which one should I try? And finally, was it a mistake to run CHKDSK? -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
Your "new" motherboard might not be so new. It could be limited to the size
of hard drive it will recognize. A 32GB limitation is not unusual for some older boards. What is the brand and model number of your motherboard? BTW you mentioned that you ran CHKDSK from "DOS". Is the drive formatted as FAT32? -- Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User] www.webtree.ca/windowsxp "Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message ... Physical damage forced me to change mother boards. It was time anyway. Prior to changing the m-boards but after the damage incident, the old m-board worked for a short time without the keyboard or mouse functioning; however, Windows XP came up and I saw the desktop. This indicates the hard drive, an 80 GB Western Digital, was working at least at that time and at least sufficiently to provide the Windows XP desktop. I installed a new m-board but soon found couldn't boot Windows XP off the 80 GB HD. I happened to have a 15 GB HD on the shelf which also had WinXP on it. I hooked that up, but still I couldn't boot XP. I repair-installed XP (not from the recovery counsel) on the 15 GB HD, and now I have a working XP machine with that HD, but, of course, all my data is on the 80 GB. I disconnected the 15 GB HD and tried the repair-install on the 80 GB HD, but when the install completed, and I tired to boot, I got the error screen saying I should check for viruses, unhook any new HDs, and run CHKDSK. I called MS, and the guy ran through another repair-install with me and then had me run CHKDSK /R (if I remember correctly) on the 80 GB HD (jumpered as slave) from DOS. CHKDSK supposedly repaired some sections making the drive smaller. It now comes up as 31 GB. But I can't open the drive. When I try, a small alert comes up saying the drive is not formatted and would I like to do so. So... Is there anyway I can read the (previously) 80 GB drive? If I need some data recovery software, which one should I try? And finally, was it a mistake to run CHKDSK? -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message
... - Harry Ohrn - Your "new" motherboard might not be so new. It could be limited to the size of hard drive it will recognize. A 32GB limitation is not unusual for some older boards. What is the brand and model number of your motherboard? - Nehmo - Shuttle AN35N Ultra V1.1 . http://www.shuttle.com/hq/product/ma..._m.asp?M_id=49 It accepts an 80 GB HD. - Harry Ohrn - BTW you mentioned that you ran CHKDSK from "DOS". Is the drive formatted as FAT32? - Nehmo - The CHKDSK switch I used was /f, which fixes errors on the HD. (I gave the an incorrect switch before.) http://www.computerhope.com/chkdskh.htm The drive had NTFS formatting. Currently, I see the dirve in Computer Management as 31.5 GB Healthy but unformatted. I have it jumpered as slave. -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* Are you certain it is jumpered correctly? Some large hard drives have a capacity limiter jumper setting so they can be used with older boards. I do not know if that is true for your drive but if the jumper is set incorrectly that could be one reason why the size is not being properly displayed. -- Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User] www.webtree.ca/windowsxp |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
Didn't PC Tools have DiskFix utility? Anyway, Symantec bought 'em both
Norton and Central Point sigh |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
Didn't PC Tools have DiskFix utility? Anyway, Symantec bought 'em both
Norton and Central Point sigh |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
- Harry Ohrn -
Are you certain it is jumpered correctly? Some large hard drives have a capacity limiter jumper setting so they can be used with older boards. I do not know if that is true for your drive but if the jumper is set incorrectly that could be one reason why the size is not being properly displayed. - Nehmo - After I send this post, I'll physically remove it and put the jumpers off and then back on to make sure of the contacts. But if Western Digital's literature is correct, then I have the drive correctly jumpered as slave - 1&2 connected + 3&4 connected, both jumpers next to the power connector. The size of the drive showed up as reduced after I ran CHKDSK /F. While I was running that, BTW, CHKDSK correctly listed the name of the drive and it's size. Now I can't even get the name. Since the drive is now listed as healthy in Computer Management, I believe if I formatted the drive now, it would be usable at the reduced size. But that's relatively not important. I want to retrieve the data. -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
AND, your results will vary, depending upon how much you've used the drive since you lost
the data. You might only be able to recover portions of files, and not the whole file itself, or not be able to recover certain files at all. The rule of thumb is to use the system as little as possible, until you recover what you need. Otherwise, the drive sectors that contain the files might be overwritten. I once deleted about 200 JPG files. By the time I recovered them with EasyRecovery, I was only able to fully recover about 80 of the files. The other 120 files were either only partially recoverable, with 1/3 to 1/2 of the image viewable, or not recoverable at all. So, timely recovery is VERY important. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message om... - Nehmo - EasyRecovery Professional Edition from Ontrack http://www.ontrack.com/ did indeed extract files from my victim HD. I'm learing how to use the app. I may have been misleading with my previous description of the results it produced. I'm getting different and better results now, but they're still not easy to use. It's not like you can open Explorer and see the everything on the victim HD. I'll report back later on how successful I've been. ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.730 / Virus Database: 485 - Release Date: 7/28/2004 |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
- Nehmo -
EasyRecovery Professional Edition from Ontrack http://www.ontrack.com/ did indeed extract files from my victim HD. I'm learing how to use the app. I may have been misleading with my previous description of the results it produced. I'm getting different and better results now, but they're still not easy to use. It's not like you can open Explorer and see the everything on the victim HD. I'll report back later on how successful I've been. ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
- Nehmo -
EasyRecovery Professional Edition from Ontrack http://www.ontrack.com/ did indeed extract files from my victim HD. I'm learing how to use the app. I may have been misleading with my previous description of the results it produced. I'm getting different and better results now, but they're still not easy to use. It's not like you can open Explorer and see the everything on the victim HD. I'll report back later on how successful I've been. ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
With all you have done to the 80 gig drive, data recovery is now a "moot
point". You have already destroyed much of what you want to recover by using the drive and performing a recovery on the drive. When you lose data -STOP. Assess your options. The time for data recovery software is "prior" to doing anything else with the drive. You can use EasyRecovery Professional (expensive) from www.ontrack.com. If you buy the program, and it doesn't work, they allow you to apply the cost of the program toward their In House recovery service (even MORE expensive)! -- Regards: Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) "Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message ... Physical damage forced me to change mother boards. It was time anyway. Prior to changing the m-boards but after the damage incident, the old m-board worked for a short time without the keyboard or mouse functioning; however, Windows XP came up and I saw the desktop. This indicates the hard drive, an 80 GB Western Digital, was working at least at that time and at least sufficiently to provide the Windows XP desktop. I installed a new m-board but soon found couldn't boot Windows XP off the 80 GB HD. I happened to have a 15 GB HD on the shelf which also had WinXP on it. I hooked that up, but still I couldn't boot XP. I repair-installed XP (not from the recovery counsel) on the 15 GB HD, and now I have a working XP machine with that HD, but, of course, all my data is on the 80 GB. I disconnected the 15 GB HD and tried the repair-install on the 80 GB HD, but when the install completed, and I tired to boot, I got the error screen saying I should check for viruses, unhook any new HDs, and run CHKDSK. I called MS, and the guy ran through another repair-install with me and then had me run CHKDSK /R (if I remember correctly) on the 80 GB HD (jumpered as slave) from DOS. CHKDSK supposedly repaired some sections making the drive smaller. It now comes up as 31 GB. But I can't open the drive. When I try, a small alert comes up saying the drive is not formatted and would I like to do so. So... Is there anyway I can read the (previously) 80 GB drive? If I need some data recovery software, which one should I try? And finally, was it a mistake to run CHKDSK? -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
With all you have done to the 80 gig drive, data recovery is now a "moot
point". You have already destroyed much of what you want to recover by using the drive and performing a recovery on the drive. When you lose data -STOP. Assess your options. The time for data recovery software is "prior" to doing anything else with the drive. You can use EasyRecovery Professional (expensive) from www.ontrack.com. If you buy the program, and it doesn't work, they allow you to apply the cost of the program toward their In House recovery service (even MORE expensive)! -- Regards: Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) "Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message ... Physical damage forced me to change mother boards. It was time anyway. Prior to changing the m-boards but after the damage incident, the old m-board worked for a short time without the keyboard or mouse functioning; however, Windows XP came up and I saw the desktop. This indicates the hard drive, an 80 GB Western Digital, was working at least at that time and at least sufficiently to provide the Windows XP desktop. I installed a new m-board but soon found couldn't boot Windows XP off the 80 GB HD. I happened to have a 15 GB HD on the shelf which also had WinXP on it. I hooked that up, but still I couldn't boot XP. I repair-installed XP (not from the recovery counsel) on the 15 GB HD, and now I have a working XP machine with that HD, but, of course, all my data is on the 80 GB. I disconnected the 15 GB HD and tried the repair-install on the 80 GB HD, but when the install completed, and I tired to boot, I got the error screen saying I should check for viruses, unhook any new HDs, and run CHKDSK. I called MS, and the guy ran through another repair-install with me and then had me run CHKDSK /R (if I remember correctly) on the 80 GB HD (jumpered as slave) from DOS. CHKDSK supposedly repaired some sections making the drive smaller. It now comes up as 31 GB. But I can't open the drive. When I try, a small alert comes up saying the drive is not formatted and would I like to do so. So... Is there anyway I can read the (previously) 80 GB drive? If I need some data recovery software, which one should I try? And finally, was it a mistake to run CHKDSK? -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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Your "new" motherboard might not be so new. It could be limited to the size
of hard drive it will recognize. A 32GB limitation is not unusual for some older boards. What is the brand and model number of your motherboard? BTW you mentioned that you ran CHKDSK from "DOS". Is the drive formatted as FAT32? -- Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User] www.webtree.ca/windowsxp "Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message ... Physical damage forced me to change mother boards. It was time anyway. Prior to changing the m-boards but after the damage incident, the old m-board worked for a short time without the keyboard or mouse functioning; however, Windows XP came up and I saw the desktop. This indicates the hard drive, an 80 GB Western Digital, was working at least at that time and at least sufficiently to provide the Windows XP desktop. I installed a new m-board but soon found couldn't boot Windows XP off the 80 GB HD. I happened to have a 15 GB HD on the shelf which also had WinXP on it. I hooked that up, but still I couldn't boot XP. I repair-installed XP (not from the recovery counsel) on the 15 GB HD, and now I have a working XP machine with that HD, but, of course, all my data is on the 80 GB. I disconnected the 15 GB HD and tried the repair-install on the 80 GB HD, but when the install completed, and I tired to boot, I got the error screen saying I should check for viruses, unhook any new HDs, and run CHKDSK. I called MS, and the guy ran through another repair-install with me and then had me run CHKDSK /R (if I remember correctly) on the 80 GB HD (jumpered as slave) from DOS. CHKDSK supposedly repaired some sections making the drive smaller. It now comes up as 31 GB. But I can't open the drive. When I try, a small alert comes up saying the drive is not formatted and would I like to do so. So... Is there anyway I can read the (previously) 80 GB drive? If I need some data recovery software, which one should I try? And finally, was it a mistake to run CHKDSK? -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
Your "new" motherboard might not be so new. It could be limited to the size
of hard drive it will recognize. A 32GB limitation is not unusual for some older boards. What is the brand and model number of your motherboard? BTW you mentioned that you ran CHKDSK from "DOS". Is the drive formatted as FAT32? -- Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User] www.webtree.ca/windowsxp "Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message ... Physical damage forced me to change mother boards. It was time anyway. Prior to changing the m-boards but after the damage incident, the old m-board worked for a short time without the keyboard or mouse functioning; however, Windows XP came up and I saw the desktop. This indicates the hard drive, an 80 GB Western Digital, was working at least at that time and at least sufficiently to provide the Windows XP desktop. I installed a new m-board but soon found couldn't boot Windows XP off the 80 GB HD. I happened to have a 15 GB HD on the shelf which also had WinXP on it. I hooked that up, but still I couldn't boot XP. I repair-installed XP (not from the recovery counsel) on the 15 GB HD, and now I have a working XP machine with that HD, but, of course, all my data is on the 80 GB. I disconnected the 15 GB HD and tried the repair-install on the 80 GB HD, but when the install completed, and I tired to boot, I got the error screen saying I should check for viruses, unhook any new HDs, and run CHKDSK. I called MS, and the guy ran through another repair-install with me and then had me run CHKDSK /R (if I remember correctly) on the 80 GB HD (jumpered as slave) from DOS. CHKDSK supposedly repaired some sections making the drive smaller. It now comes up as 31 GB. But I can't open the drive. When I try, a small alert comes up saying the drive is not formatted and would I like to do so. So... Is there anyway I can read the (previously) 80 GB drive? If I need some data recovery software, which one should I try? And finally, was it a mistake to run CHKDSK? -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message
... - Harry Ohrn - Your "new" motherboard might not be so new. It could be limited to the size of hard drive it will recognize. A 32GB limitation is not unusual for some older boards. What is the brand and model number of your motherboard? - Nehmo - Shuttle AN35N Ultra V1.1 . http://www.shuttle.com/hq/product/ma..._m.asp?M_id=49 It accepts an 80 GB HD. - Harry Ohrn - BTW you mentioned that you ran CHKDSK from "DOS". Is the drive formatted as FAT32? - Nehmo - The CHKDSK switch I used was /f, which fixes errors on the HD. (I gave the an incorrect switch before.) http://www.computerhope.com/chkdskh.htm The drive had NTFS formatting. Currently, I see the dirve in Computer Management as 31.5 GB Healthy but unformatted. I have it jumpered as slave. -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* Are you certain it is jumpered correctly? Some large hard drives have a capacity limiter jumper setting so they can be used with older boards. I do not know if that is true for your drive but if the jumper is set incorrectly that could be one reason why the size is not being properly displayed. -- Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User] www.webtree.ca/windowsxp |
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Need Data Recovery from HD
- Harry Ohrn -
Are you certain it is jumpered correctly? Some large hard drives have a capacity limiter jumper setting so they can be used with older boards. I do not know if that is true for your drive but if the jumper is set incorrectly that could be one reason why the size is not being properly displayed. - Nehmo - After I send this post, I'll physically remove it and put the jumpers off and then back on to make sure of the contacts. But if Western Digital's literature is correct, then I have the drive correctly jumpered as slave - 1&2 connected + 3&4 connected, both jumpers next to the power connector. The size of the drive showed up as reduced after I ran CHKDSK /F. While I was running that, BTW, CHKDSK correctly listed the name of the drive and it's size. Now I can't even get the name. Since the drive is now listed as healthy in Computer Management, I believe if I formatted the drive now, it would be usable at the reduced size. But that's relatively not important. I want to retrieve the data. -- ********************* * Nehmo Sergheyev * ********************* |
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