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I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm
usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Ken,
Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be able to do (and as you did not mention that ...) Personally I've disabled javascript, and installed a plugin (RequestPolicy)which stops any-and-all third-party content from loading. The end result is that I only see content from the page im visting*. Which certainly improves download/display times. :-) *The plugin (ofcourse) allows whitelisting on a site-site basis or globally. If you want a bit more control than JS fully on or off than you could also take a look at the NoScript plugin Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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KenK wrote:
I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? Have you tried using a new profile in Firefox? If more than just Firefox is slow, see what happens when you boot into Windows' safe mode. |
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KenK wrote:
I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? TIA Remember that Javascript, the majority of web monkeys are quite happy to design code that "loops and burns a core". It's a fetish of sorts. This cannot end well for any computer, really. Eventually a dialog pops up "a script is not responding, would you like to commit suicide or keep waiting ?". That's one of the reasons that no browser can ever be "happy". So we look for lightweight (Ha!) browsers, with a weird heritage, in the hopes something good will happen. I get me a click-bait article. https://mashtips.com/best-lightweigh...s-for-windows/ And the one suggestion that is relatively unique, is Midori (windows version). It uses Webkit, which is the same as Safari, and the windows version of Safari stopped some time ago. The Webkit engine on the other hand, is probably still under development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_browser https://www.midori-browser.org/#section2 Call us 24/7. We are there for your support for now only via phone in Spanish +57 300-301-xxxx Where to find us Bogotá Colombia CL 84 NO. 28 B 95 BL 4 AP 202 Clicking the download button... does nothing. Not an auspicious start :-/ When I use SRWare Iron, an additional text string and button appear. Which means "the web page uses such whizzy features, no ordinary browser need apply". Neat. I could have "guessed" this URL I suppose, but I wanted to play the part of the unsuspecting customer. Now, because the Portable Windows version (54MB) won't show the link on the screen, I "guessed" at it and replaced EXE with ZIP, and that seems to be downloading right now. https://www.midori-browser.org/download/ "Currently the version for Windows is 0.5 and since Midori is in version 7, the update will be available soon with many improvements and a more updated cycle." Uhuh. "Installer Windows" https://www.midori-browser.org/wp-co...0.5.11_32_.exe "Portable Windows" https://www.midori-browser.org/wp-co...0.5.11_32_.zip It's a good thing I like playing "Download Ferret". There was a comment somewhere that said it "crashed occasionally". Further comedy awaits when you open the ZIP for a look and see a 4MB copy of "gdb.exe" staring you in the face. That's the GNU debugger, suitable for crashes and such :-) "Better wear a raincoat - looks like rain." Nothing telegraphs your belief in your code, like including a debugger. I wonder if it's compiled with the symbols still in it ? midori.exe 130,292 bytes https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/...938e3b/details The file dates are from 2015, so the 2018/08 in the path name is bogus. The large number of DLLs, are being loaded by the webkit DLL. To get the work done. This is similar in a sense, to how Firefox has a 50MB DLL file in its collection. libwebkitgtk-3.0-0.dll 31,269,317 bytes https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/...e106d9/details ADVAPI32.dll GDI32.dll KERNEL32.dll OPENGL32.DLL === this is how it draws stuff on a Windows screen (no DirectX) SHLWAPI.dll USER32.dll VERSION.dll icui18n50.dll \___ Localization support ? icuuc50.dll / libatk-1.0-0.dll libcairo-2.dll ---- printing ? libenchant.dll libfontconfig-1.dll libfreetype-6.dll libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll libgdk-3-0.dll libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-0.dll libgio-2.0-0.dll libglib-2.0-0.dll libgobject-2.0-0.dll libgstapp-1.0-0.dll libgstaudio-1.0-0.dll libgstbase-1.0-0.dll libgstfft-1.0-0.dll libgstpbutils-1.0-0.dll libgstreamer-1.0-0.dll libgstvideo-1.0-0.dll libgtk-3-0.dll ---- how it brings its "theme" to Windows (decorations) libharfbuzz-0.dll libharfbuzz-icu-0.dll libintl-8.dll libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0.dll libjpeg-62.dll libpango-1.0-0.dll libpng16-16.dll libsoup-2.4-1.dll libsqlite3-0.dll libstdc++-6.dll libwebp-5.dll libwinpthread-1.dll ---- threading (so it doesn't jam up) libxml2-2.dll libxslt-1.dll msvcrt.dll ---- C runtime file zlib1.dll If it supports https, yet uses design from another era (no compositing), who knows, it might be a win. Here is a picture of it, and it tells us it support TLS 1.2. The latest standard is TLS 1.3 (with CHACHA20). Still, that's a lot better than Internet Explorer on WinXP. https://i.postimg.cc/bNDfx9bV/midori.gif Paul |
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"R.Wieser" wrote in
: Ken, Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be able to do (and as you did not mention that ...) Gmail, Google News, Google and weather. Personally I've disabled javascript, and installed a plugin (RequestPolicy)which stops any-and-all third-party content from loading. The end result is that I only see content from the page im visting*. Which certainly improves download/display times. :-) *The plugin (ofcourse) allows whitelisting on a site-site basis or globally. If you want a bit more control than JS fully on or off than you could also take a look at the NoScript plugin Regards, Rudy Wieser -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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VanguardLH wrote in :
KenK wrote: I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? Have you tried using a new profile in Firefox? How do I do that? If more than just Firefox is slow, see what happens when you boot into Windows' safe mode. How do I do that? -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Ken,
Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be able to do (and as you did not mention that ...) Gmail, Google News, Google and weather. Than no. Those are most likely fluffed-up with sh*tloads of javascript, which makes them slow no matter what you do. Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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KenK wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: KenK wrote: I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? Have you tried using a new profile in Firefox? How do I do that? https://www.google.com/search?q=fire...0new%20profile If more than just Firefox is slow, see what happens when you boot into Windows' safe mode. How do I do that? https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+xp+safe+mode |
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In message , R.Wieser
writes: Ken, Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be able to do (and as you did not mention that ...) Gmail, Google News, Google and weather. Than no. Those are most likely fluffed-up with sh*tloads of javascript, which makes them slow no matter what you do. Regards, Rudy Wieser I use Firefox 27.0; Google the search engine works fine for me, starting at https://www.google.co.uk/advanced_search?hl=en . I can't comment on gmail, as I don't use it - assuming Google News means Google Groups, then I think it wouldn't work, but then if you want speed I wouldn't use that way of accessing news via any browser, but a proper news client instead. As for weather, unless there's an obvious default in your part of the world, you'll have to say which site: https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/tn27 works OK-ish in F27 for where I am, but generic https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather doesn't at the top (in common with lots of sites [especially BBC ones], it seems to contain lots of tall narrow columns), though does if I scroll down past the top bit. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf When I'm good, I'm very good. But when I'm bad - I'm better! (Mae West) |
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On 2019-9-12 0:34, KenK wrote:
I think a lot of my speed problems may be my Firefox browser's fault. I'm usng 52.9.0 32-bit. Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? Maybe try this: https://msfn.org/board/topic/178306-...macintosh-too/ People say it really boosts their Firefox. -- Regards, Lu Wei IM: PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA |
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:05:40 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote: Ken, Is there something faster that also works well I can use on my old XP system? That fully depends on what you expect your browser to be able to do (and as you did not mention that ...) Gmail, Google News, Google and weather. Than no. Those are most likely fluffed-up with sh*tloads of javascript, which makes them slow no matter what you do. I'm using Firefox 41.0.1, which was less bloated, and speeded up a lot. Google keeps warning me that it can only show me HTML in Gmail, which is faster and easier to use. Facebook keeps threatening that it is going to stop supporting it, but also won't let me into my main account, for which I use Maxthon. -- Steve Hayes http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm http://khanya.wordpress.com |
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