Office 2007 strange prob.

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:27:26 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:12:01 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:53:18 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

It would have been nice if you told us how you tried to run the
program...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

All I did at first was just removed a couple of users accounts that were
never used. They were only put on as a class project. I then tried to
open a
Word doc and it would not. Tried an Excel same thing. I could make a new
Excel book or Word doc, but as soon as I saved it that was it would not
open. I could save it to a flash drive and open them on this PC but
nothing
on the desktop. After trying several things I mentioned here I gave up
and
formatted it.

PLEASE tell me how you tried to open the Word document.

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Double click.

OK. That tends to verify what I said several replies ago.

All that really happened (I think) was that you lost the file
associations when you uninstalled the trial of the newer Office.

There are two implications of that.

1. You could have opened your files in the regular File - Open dialog.
It's pretty easy to do.

2. You could have recreated your associations. It's pretty easy to do.

I am betting strongly on the above analysis.

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"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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All that really happened (I think) was that you lost the file
associations when you uninstalled the trial of the newer Office.

There are two implications of that.

1. You could have opened your files in the regular File - Open dialog.
It's pretty easy to do.

2. You could have recreated your associations. It's pretty easy to do.

I am betting strongly on the above analysis.

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Hopefully I won't manage to do it again whatever I did. G
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:01:45 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

Take the numbers 38 and 40 as sort of +- 2, since it's hard to count
them accurately. I'm OK counting up to 2, however, so the count of the
February ones is good :-)

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand
binary and those who don't. ;-)

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Char Jackson

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:32:01 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:27:26 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:12:01 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:53:18 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

It would have been nice if you told us how you tried to run the
program...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

All I did at first was just removed a couple of users accounts that were
never used. They were only put on as a class project. I then tried to
open a
Word doc and it would not. Tried an Excel same thing. I could make a new
Excel book or Word doc, but as soon as I saved it that was it would not
open. I could save it to a flash drive and open them on this PC but
nothing
on the desktop. After trying several things I mentioned here I gave up
and
formatted it.

PLEASE tell me how you tried to open the Word document.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Double click.

OK. That tends to verify what I said several replies ago.

All that really happened (I think) was that you lost the file
associations when you uninstalled the trial of the newer Office.

There are two implications of that.

1. You could have opened your files in the regular File - Open dialog.
It's pretty easy to do.

2. You could have recreated your associations. It's pretty easy to do.

I am betting strongly on the above analysis.

I think you've arrived at the right conclusion, but in hindsight, look
how hard it was to get there. ;-)

(The PLEASE in caps caused me to LOL.)

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Char Jackson

On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:21:26 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:01:45 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

Take the numbers 38 and 40 as sort of +- 2, since it's hard to count
them accurately. I'm OK counting up to 2, however, so the count of the
February ones is good :-)

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand
binary and those who don't. ;-)

It's late - 1000:110110 PM - so I don't get your joke :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:41:04 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
. ..
All that really happened (I think) was that you lost the file
associations when you uninstalled the trial of the newer Office.

There are two implications of that.

1. You could have opened your files in the regular File - Open dialog.
It's pretty easy to do.

2. You could have recreated your associations. It's pretty easy to do.

I am betting strongly on the above analysis.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


Hopefully I won't manage to do it again whatever I did. G

But if you do, do *not* forget what I said above - it'll be the way out,
and "It's pretty easy to do".

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:23:43 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

Double click.

OK. That tends to verify what I said several replies ago.

All that really happened (I think) was that you lost the file
associations when you uninstalled the trial of the newer Office.

There are two implications of that.

1. You could have opened your files in the regular File - Open dialog.
It's pretty easy to do.

2. You could have recreated your associations. It's pretty easy to do.

I am betting strongly on the above analysis.

I think you've arrived at the right conclusion, but in hindsight, look
how hard it was to get there. ;-)

(The PLEASE in caps caused me to LOL.)

There are times when I tend to lose patience. I'm glad Alex finally
answered my question, and I have urged him to remember the answer.

A recurring theme in these NGs is people who give inadequate
information, which makes it hard to figure out the problem. Alex's
attitude was at least cooperative, unlike lots of posters here who,
instead of cooperating, get annoyed at us, the geeks who insist on
jargon :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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There are times when I tend to lose patience. I'm glad Alex finally
answered my question, and I have urged him to remember the answer.

A recurring theme in these NGs is people who give inadequate
information, which makes it hard to figure out the problem. Alex's
attitude was at least cooperative, unlike lots of posters here who,
instead of cooperating, get annoyed at us, the geeks who insist on
jargon :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

You have to remember a few of us (like me) know little about these machines.
The answer you gave me went right over my head. I had no idea I was not
answering as I had no idea there was another way to open a file other than
double clicking it, so the "fix" is Greek to me.
I guess for now I will just leave the trial version alone since removing
it may have been the start of the trouble and it does not seem to be getting
in the way. if I manage to screw it up again I will also take some shots of
the error that pops up so I can try to give a better answer to what it was
saying.
As I said it was just kind of idle curiosity after the fix as to why it
suddenly went all screwy in the first place. I don't give inadequate info on
purpose, it's because I often have no idea what people are trying to ask me.
This group has been a hell of a lot of help though since W-7 came out. It
was reading here that made me brave enough to turn this machine from Vista
to W-7. Had to do it twice after I made the mistake of asking Dell for help
with a small feature the first time. I do like the OS better than I did
vista, so I was glad I could do it. While I have come a long way from where
I was a few years ago I doubt I will ever be confused with a computer
"Geek". G
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"Alex Clayton" wrote:

That was the last thing I tried after removing the software and
reinstalling it failed. When I went to system restore though the
only date available was that day. Apparently they have changed
something in W-7.

There's nothing changed, there are things that will delete restore
points but the most common is that you never set any. Check that
System Restore is turned on for the correct drive, the Help files will
get you started.


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"XS11E" wrote in message
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"Alex Clayton" wrote:

That was the last thing I tried after removing the software and
reinstalling it failed. When I went to system restore though the
only date available was that day. Apparently they have changed
something in W-7.

There's nothing changed, there are things that will delete restore
points but the most common is that you never set any. Check that
System Restore is turned on for the correct drive, the Help files will
get you started.


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OK I will go check the desktop in a bit. Since it just started over I assume
there will be nothing yet. I opened system restore on this machine and it
offers several dates going back to 11/14/10. All the dates say critical
update which I take it are dates I took a Windows update?
While I was poking around I noticed an option to create a system image. I
take it this is the Windows one? It offered to create on on the C drive or
on DVDs. It said it would take up to 240Gigs. So I take it this would be
everything on this computer right now?
That would be a lot of discs but this has a BR drive so if this does work I
guess I will buy a few blank BR discs. It would be nice to be able to
restore this one the same as it is now since it started out life as Vista so
I am assuming if I use the recovery that came with it I would be back to
Vista then have to move it back to W-7 and of course load everything back.
So does the create image offered here actually work in that I could pop in
the discs and it would put everything back to the way it is the day I made
the discs?
Is there a certain kind of BR discs I need to use as in do I have to use the
kind you can only write to one time? I went through this one time when I
first got this, bought a blank BR disc to make another recovery disc and it
was the wrong kind but I can't remember now what it was that I bought since
I tossed it.
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"Alex Clayton" wrote:

OK I will go check the desktop in a bit. Since it just started
over I assume there will be nothing yet. I opened system restore
on this machine and it offers several dates going back to
11/14/10. All the dates say critical update which I take it are
dates I took a Windows update?

Correct, many updates create a restore point before updating.

While I was poking around I noticed an option to create a system
image. I take it this is the Windows one?

Correct

It offered to create on on the C drive or on DVDs. It said it
would take up to 240Gigs. So I take it this would be everything on
this computer right now? That would be a lot of discs but this has
a BR drive so if this does work I guess I will buy a few blank BR
discs.

An alternate: I have a second hard drive and use the second one for
backups. They're getting pretty reasonable with 1 TB drives under
$100US and removable USB drives for the same price. It's worth
investigating, it's faster than CDs or DVDs and might be more
reliable as CDs or DVDs can have strange things happen such as dog
thinking they're chew toys! G

So does the create image offered here actually work in that I
could pop in the discs and it would put everything back to the way
it is the day I made the discs?

I'm not sure about the Windows image but someone here will know.
That's how it works with Acronis.

Is there a certain kind of BR discs I need to use as in do I have
to use the kind you can only write to one time?

I wouldn't use Blue Ray discs, they're more expensive. The regular CDs
or DVDs are cheaper if your drive will write them, use the write once
kind, the rewritable can be unreliable.

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On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:48:07 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

While I was poking around I noticed an option to create a system image. I
take it this is the Windows one? It offered to create on on the C drive or
on DVDs. It said it would take up to 240Gigs. So I take it this would be
everything on this computer right now?

That would be a lot of discs but this has a BR drive so if this does work I
guess I will buy a few blank BR discs. It would be nice to be able to
restore this one the same as it is now since it started out life as Vista so
I am assuming if I use the recovery that came with it I would be back to
Vista then have to move it back to W-7 and of course load everything back.

So does the create image offered here actually work in that I could pop in
the discs and it would put everything back to the way it is the day I made
the discs?

Is there a certain kind of BR discs I need to use as in do I have to use the
kind you can only write to one time? I went through this one time when I
first got this, bought a blank BR disc to make another recovery disc and it
was the wrong kind but I can't remember now what it was that I bought since
I tossed it.

Save yourself a whole lot of grief and tedium by backing up to a
second hard drive rather than trying to put everything on optical
media.

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Char Jackson

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
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Is there a certain kind of BR discs I need to use as in do I have to use
the
kind you can only write to one time? I went through this one time when I
first got this, bought a blank BR disc to make another recovery disc and
it
was the wrong kind but I can't remember now what it was that I bought
since
I tossed it.

Save yourself a whole lot of grief and tedium by backing up to a
second hard drive rather than trying to put everything on optical
media.

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Char Jackson

OK I will pick up another 500 Gig. I guess the best way to play with this
would be to use the extra laptop I have. Will try making an image on the
drive for it, then see if I can restore it with it to see how it works. That
way if I make a mess it will be on one that we only use for watching movies
so if I have to re do it nothing will really be lost.
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:48:07 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

That would be a lot of discs but this has a BR drive so if this does work I
guess I will buy a few blank BR discs. It would be nice to be able to
restore this one the same as it is now since it started out life as Vista so
I am assuming if I use the recovery that came with it I would be back to
Vista then have to move it back to W-7 and of course load everything back.
So does the create image offered here actually work in that I could pop in
the discs and it would put everything back to the way it is the day I made
the discs?
Is there a certain kind of BR discs I need to use as in do I have to use the
kind you can only write to one time? I went through this one time when I
first got this, bought a blank BR disc to make another recovery disc and it
was the wrong kind but I can't remember now what it was that I bought since
I tossed it.

Be sure you have a WRITABLE Blu-ray drive. Most computers only have a
BD-ROM (i.e., read-only) drive.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 23:10:42 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

You have to remember a few of us (like me) know little about these machines.
The answer you gave me went right over my head. I had no idea I was not
answering as I had no idea there was another way to open a file other than
double clicking it, so the "fix" is Greek to me.

I do remember that, but I also pointed out that your attitude is better
than the attitude of some others :-)

The stuff I was talking about and that I want you to remember is really
very basic, and so your comment above leads me to suggest that you spend
a week or so with an appropriate text book and your computer to learn
some new stuff.

Yeah, it's a PITA, but the results could be rewarding...

Here are a couple of possibilities for books:

Windows 7 for Dummies
Windows 7 Plain & Simple (from Microsoft)

I have no idea if they would be useful for you, they're just a couple of
titles I have here...

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