homework/computer?

Cable IS media.

Yes, but not in the context of a newspaper as media.

Cable is a media as air is media.

But air and cable are not media as CNN is media. See the difference, Smith?
Your trying to prove a logical fallacy, bud.

-John O

Leythos wrote:
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Leythos wrote:
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Leythos wrote:
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JohnO wrote:
You are a total moron. The Internet is media no matter how
stupid you choose to remain. What does this mean?

Almost sounds like you're saying that you read it on the
Internet so it must be true. ;-) IMO it means the person who
wrote it feels "the Internet" is a blob, a cloud, a thing that
comes into the house like cable TV. "The Internet" is what's at
the other end of that big phone cable coming out of the wall.

Kinda true for explanations to non-tech people, but not true at
all if you know what's actually out there.



I was trying to find something simple to show the simpleton I was
responding to but he is beyond hope. He has been embarrassing
himself and by now would never admit he has been wrong.

You are the only person being embarrassed, you keep claiming that
the network is MEDIA and can't seem to grasp that the NETWORK is a
media transport layer, it holds NO MEDIA itself. The Servers HOLD
THE MEDIA, but the servers are not actually MEDIA either.

You are totally wrong as I pointed out in the above post. Media is
a medium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media

Media may refer to:
In communication:

a.. Media (communication), tools used to store and deliver
information or data

As pointed out above media can be a tool used to store and deliver
information. Thus a TV and the Internet are some of those tools.

Now do you get it or will you say that wikipedia is somehow wrong
and only you are right?

The "Internet" does not store or deliver information or data. The
servers that host the content store and deliver it, the internet is
a network.

According to your definition, the HDMI Cable is media, or my Speaker
cables are media, or my USB cable is media, but any person with any
knowledge of anything technical will confirm that the "Internet" is
a network and does not contain media, the servers ATTACHED to the
"Internet" contain and provide the media.

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/media

Here you go moron.
http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/media

Main Entry: media
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: communication by publication or broadcast
Synonyms: announcement, announcing, cable, communications,
correspondence, disclosure, expression, intelligence, news,
publishing, radio, television

Cable IS media.

And you seem to be too young to understand what "Cable" is - bet you
never learned about cable communications - as in messages sent via
cable.

As usual you are wrong again. I am most likely older than you and was
sending messages over seas via International CW in more than 50 years ago.



Have you ever heard of the term "off the wire"?

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...9609&dict=CALD

Go here and find where you can cank up what you say.
http://www.onelook.com/?w=media&ls=a

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/media?view=uk


Give it up. You have been proven wrong consistently. Now be a
man and admit you have been wrong and get on with your pathetic life.

Again, each item you list above proves that the INTERNET is not media,
it is a path to MEDIA.

Read this part again:

Definition: communication by publication or broadcast
Synonyms: announcement, announcing, cable, communications,
correspondence, disclosure, expression, intelligence, news,
publishing, radio, television

Publication - media put to print/paper

Broadcast - media put to electronic signal seen/listened to on
tv/radio sets

Cable - as in media sent via telecommunications cable

etc....

You should study MEDIA a little before you make a bigger fool of
yourself.

You have failed to even address the definition I presented. How typical of
you. You are the only fool posting to this thread. You have been proven
wrong time and time again while trying to sqirm your way out. You are
obvioulsy unable to learn anything new and up to date.

JohnO wrote:
Cable IS media.

Yes, but not in the context of a newspaper as media.

Cable is a media as air is media.

But air and cable are not media as CNN is media. See the difference,
Smith? Your trying to prove a logical fallacy, bud.

-John O

I have proven and you have admitted that cable is media. I never claimed
that the definition I presented has anything to do with 'CNN media". You
seem to want things your own way also. Thank you for helping make my point
while it seems that you are the one with the fallacy. Thus the Internet IS
media.

Leythos wrote:
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The person that works for a media outlet company is not the media,
they are part of the machine that generates media, but they are not
media. The same is true for the "Internet", it is how you reach the
media, but it does not take on any part of the media.

How do you explain Air - the media is broadcast through the air and
shown on your television - does that make Air media while I view
television? Nope.

I would explain "air" as something that mostly exists in your head.
You have been proven wrong and from this point on your continued
ignorance will be so noted, fool.

So, now that you've seen you're wrong all you have left is personal
attacks?

You are indeed an ignorant fool when you are presented with proof and fail
in all attempts to logically back up your assertions. To bad if you get your
feelings hurt along the way. How much time does anyone have to spend with a
lame individual like yourself?

You have said I should study something but fail to provide your won cites
to what you think you have learned. Why is that? All you have is your
opinions. Nothing more while I have consistently proven you to be very
narrow minded. Maybe you should consider working on that. IOW get a clue.

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says...
[snip]

Lets make it simple for you:

If all servers were to be turned off, no hard drives, that contain any
media at all, would the internet still work?

Yes, the InterNet would still work just fine, you could get from one
point to another, as the Internet was designed.

Media is on Servers that may or may not be connected to the Internet.
Media servers are located on the Internet, but the Internet is not the
media and does not need media to be the Internet.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(remove 999 for proper email address)

In article ,
says...



JohnO wrote:
Cable IS media.

Yes, but not in the context of a newspaper as media.

Cable is a media as air is media.

But air and cable are not media as CNN is media. See the difference,
Smith? Your trying to prove a logical fallacy, bud.

-John O

I have proven and you have admitted that cable is media.

No, you didn't understand what he wrote.

I never claimed
that the definition I presented has anything to do with 'CNN media". You
seem to want things your own way also. Thank you for helping make my point
while it seems that you are the one with the fallacy. Thus the Internet IS
media.

You are still wrong and lost again.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(remove 999 for proper email address)

In article ,
says...


Leythos wrote:
In article ,
says...
The person that works for a media outlet company is not the media,
they are part of the machine that generates media, but they are not
media. The same is true for the "Internet", it is how you reach the
media, but it does not take on any part of the media.

How do you explain Air - the media is broadcast through the air and
shown on your television - does that make Air media while I view
television? Nope.

I would explain "air" as something that mostly exists in your head.
You have been proven wrong and from this point on your continued
ignorance will be so noted, fool.

So, now that you've seen you're wrong all you have left is personal
attacks?

You are indeed an ignorant fool when you are presented with proof and fail
in all attempts to logically back up your assertions. To bad if you get your
feelings hurt along the way. How much time does anyone have to spend with a
lame individual like yourself?

You have said I should study something but fail to provide your won cites
to what you think you have learned. Why is that? All you have is your
opinions. Nothing more while I have consistently proven you to be very
narrow minded. Maybe you should consider working on that. IOW get a clue.

Again, if we turned off all servers that contained media, the Internet
would still exist and still function as designed - something you fail to
understand.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos wrote:
In article ,
says...


Leythos wrote:
In article ,
says...
The person that works for a media outlet company is not the media,
they are part of the machine that generates media, but they are
not media. The same is true for the "Internet", it is how you
reach the media, but it does not take on any part of the media.

How do you explain Air - the media is broadcast through the air
and shown on your television - does that make Air media while I
view television? Nope.

I would explain "air" as something that mostly exists in your
head. You have been proven wrong and from this point on your
continued ignorance will be so noted, fool.

So, now that you've seen you're wrong all you have left is personal
attacks?

You are indeed an ignorant fool when you are presented with proof
and fail in all attempts to logically back up your assertions. To
bad if you get your feelings hurt along the way. How much time does
anyone have to spend with a lame individual like yourself?

You have said I should study something but fail to provide your won
cites to what you think you have learned. Why is that? All you have
is your opinions. Nothing more while I have consistently proven you
to be very narrow minded. Maybe you should consider working on that.
IOW get a clue.

Again, if we turned off all servers that contained media, the Internet
would still exist and still function as designed - something you fail
to understand.

I do understand that you are a total bonehead and insist on keeping your
lame head firmly planted up your ass. The fact will always be that the
Internet is media no matter how you dream of somehow all the servers
getting turned off. Maybe you can explain just how THAT would ever happen.
So until that moment comes the Internet will continue to be media and you
will continue to remain a retarded fool.

Leythos wrote:
In article ,
says...
[snip]

Lets make it simple for you:

If all servers were to be turned off, no hard drives, that contain any
media at all, would the internet still work?


Now where did I say that media was the only funcion of the Internet, moron?


Yes, the InterNet would still work just fine, you could get from one
point to another, as the Internet was designed.

Yes and it is also being used as media. You sure are stuck on stupid aren't
you?

Media is on Servers that may or may not be connected to the Internet.
Media servers are located on the Internet, but the Internet is not the
media and does not need media to be the Internet.

I have proven that not only TV and Newspapers are media but the Internet as
well. You insist on claiming that you think you will re-educate the media
personnel by convincing them they are not media either. So if someone claims
they are "unjustly portrayed by the media" you will be the first one to
correct the entire world and carefully give your lame limited version of the
term. You are getting more stupid with every tired old post.

"Smith" wrote in message
...


JohnO wrote:
Cable IS media.

Yes, but not in the context of a newspaper as media.

Cable is a media as air is media.

But air and cable are not media as CNN is media. See the difference,
Smith? Your trying to prove a logical fallacy, bud.

-John O

I have proven and you have admitted that cable is media. I never claimed
that the definition I presented has anything to do with 'CNN media". You
seem to want things your own way also. Thank you for helping make my point
while it seems that you are the one with the fallacy. Thus the Internet IS
media.


If A=B and B=C does A=C?

In article ,
says...


Leythos wrote:
In article ,
says...
[snip]

Lets make it simple for you:

If all servers were to be turned off, no hard drives, that contain any
media at all, would the internet still work?


Now where did I say that media was the only funcion of the Internet, moron?

Yet you claim the Internet IS media, but the "Internet" is a network, it
is not defined by nor does it have to include media to exist.

You avoided the question, again.

Lets ask you again, ok? If all media servers were disconnected from the
internet, would the internet still exist?


Yes, the InterNet would still work just fine, you could get from one
point to another, as the Internet was designed.

Yes and it is also being used as media. You sure are stuck on stupid aren't
you?

No, it is not - the internet, were there no media servers, would still
be the internet and yet provide no media.


--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(remove 999 for proper email address)

In article ,
says...
I have proven that not only TV and Newspapers are media but the Internet as
well.

You might want to read Wiki on the history of the internet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ng_the_network
s_and_creating_the_Internet

The Internet is not the media you claim, it's just a network, as defined
in your beloved wiki - again, you've been proven wrong.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos wrote:
In article ,
says...


Leythos wrote:
In article ,
says...
[snip]

Lets make it simple for you:

If all servers were to be turned off, no hard drives, that contain
any media at all, would the internet still work?


Now where did I say that media was the only funcion of the
Internet, moron?

Yet you claim the Internet IS media, but the "Internet" is a network,
it is not defined by nor does it have to include media to exist.

You avoided the question, again.

Lets ask you again, ok? If all media servers were disconnected from
the internet, would the internet still exist?


Yes, the InterNet would still work just fine, you could get from one
point to another, as the Internet was designed.

Yes and it is also being used as media. You sure are stuck on stupid
aren't you?

No, it is not - the internet, were there no media servers, would still
be the internet and yet provide no media.

I have already proven the Internet is media. You are simply to much of a
simple minded fool to see and admit you are wrong by claiming otherwise. I
posted a definition that says tools are media.


http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/Media
Media may refer to:
In communication:

a.. Media (communication), tools used to store and deliver information or
data
What don't you seem to get when this is right in your face? You have
offered no proof of anything you have as anything but your opinion.

A DVD or CD is media. It is a device used to deliver a message.

A newspaper is also media for the same reason. A speaker, a person
delivering a message, is also media. He is the medium. In the same context
so is a radio, a TV and the internet.

It is clear that your lack of understanding and inability and unwillingness
to properly define simple terms is keeping you dumbed down.

http://www.definethat.com/define/67.htm

Technical Definitions: What is Media? Media Definition.
MEDIA (singular medium) are the print (newspaper, magazines, etc.) and
electronic (radio and television) communication devices used for
advertising.



Maybe you should take your ideas here.

http://www.webanalyticsassociation.org/en/art/?179

How do you define new media?

Introduction
44:00 Q: How do you define new media? I define new media as blogs, RSS
Feeds, Google Books, podcasts, vidcasts, online video (Youtube, blimptv,etc)
social networks, search engines (certainly), affiliate programs, word of
mouth, viral marketing, second life, online games, virtual trade shows,
online communities, ebooks, kiosks, etc. The buzzword of new media is a
term called "engagement" which has no standard definition or standard way to
measure.

Leythos wrote:
In article ,
says...
I have proven that not only TV and Newspapers are media but the
Internet as well.

You might want to read Wiki on the history of the internet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ng_the_network
s_and_creating_the_Internet

The Internet is not the media you claim, it's just a network, as
defined in your beloved wiki - again, you've been proven wrong.

This network itself is media. You are the only one that has been proven
wrong. Your limited thinking and lame opinion proves nothing.

JohnO wrote:
"Smith" wrote in message
...


JohnO wrote:
Cable IS media.

Yes, but not in the context of a newspaper as media.

Cable is a media as air is media.

But air and cable are not media as CNN is media. See the difference,
Smith? Your trying to prove a logical fallacy, bud.

-John O

I have proven and you have admitted that cable is media. I never
claimed that the definition I presented has anything to do with 'CNN
media". You seem to want things your own way also. Thank you for
helping make my point while it seems that you are the one with the
fallacy. Thus the Internet IS media.


If A=B and B=C does A=C?

Babbling will get you no where. You will always be a fool. The Internet is
a Media as I have proven time and time again. You fail to directly address
any point I made. Why is that? Are you a coward?

A. A newspaper is media. It is a tool to deliver a message.

B. A DVD is media. It is a tool to deliver a message.

C. Radio is media. It is a tool to deliver a message.

D. A speaker is media. It is a tool to deliver a message.

E. A Book is media. It is a tool to deliver a message.

F. The Internet is a tool use to deliver a message therefor it is media.