There is a 350 pound rat at Muddy Lago

On 7/29/2019 10:48 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Ken Blake
wrote:

The internet is only about 25 years old,

Actually, about 50 years old.

what existed then was barely usable.

I remember my introduction to the "Internet". I was working in the
civilian part of Ft Deitrick in Maryland in the early 1980's. One day
I visited another scientist, and we had a question about something. He
reached over to his Radio Shack computer (the model with the keyboard
and monitor in the same cabinet) plugged in his acoustical modem, and
set his telephone on it and we checked out database in Washington about
70 miles away. I was impressed with the speed, as I remember about 30
kb per sec.

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Paul wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Ant wrote:

can't you cancel your posts?

That's been pretty ineffective for years (decades?)

The particular original post has a Cancel-Lock on it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20151030....26_Cancel-Key

Nur wenige Newsreader implementieren Cancel-Lock:

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tin

But by the time you figure it out, it's likely pretty ineffective.

In a GUI menu, you have no assurance what method it is using.

Paul

No English version for that article?
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In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

The internet is only about 25 years old,

Actually, about 50 years old.

what existed then was barely usable.

From your point-of-view, it is unusable today.

that's a stretch.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/word...ads/2015/10/ar
panet-map-1969.jpg

Not to mention that calling ARPANET "The internet" (note "The") is
falsifying/rewriting history.

More realistically, "The Internet" exists only after TCP/IP was
implemented, i.e after 1978, i.e at most 41 years, not 50.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite#Early_Implementation

a more detailed timeline, which lists tcp/ip at 1982:
https://www.livescience.com/20727-internet-history.html

In article , Keith Nuttle
wrote:

The internet is only about 25 years old,

Actually, about 50 years old.

what existed then was barely usable.

I remember my introduction to the "Internet". I was working in the
civilian part of Ft Deitrick in Maryland in the early 1980's. One day
I visited another scientist, and we had a question about something. He
reached over to his Radio Shack computer (the model with the keyboard
and monitor in the same cabinet) plugged in his acoustical modem, and
set his telephone on it and we checked out database in Washington about
70 miles away. I was impressed with the speed, as I remember about 30
kb per sec.

calling another system 70 miles away is not the 'internet'.

Too bad many English speakers, like a troll on USENET, do not know
enough to use "will" instead of the horribly inefficient "is going
to". Unfortunately, even Supreme Court Council do that. In their
quick speech, they end up saying "gonna", making the problem
obvious. There are some cases when that elongated phrase is useful,
but more often a word like "will" is better.

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There is a 350 pound rat at Muddy Lago.

It's going to require a big rat trap.

On 7/31/19 8:58 AM, John Doe wrote:
Too bad many English speakers, like a troll on USENET, do not know
enough to use "will" instead of the horribly inefficient "is going
to". Unfortunately, even Supreme Court Council do that. In their
quick speech, they end up saying "gonna",

or, even worse, "gunna"

making the problem
obvious. There are some cases when that elongated phrase is useful,
but more often a word like "will" is better.

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from the exercise of its own reason." -- Mary Wollstonecraft

nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

The internet is only about 25 years old,

Actually, about 50 years old.

what existed then was barely usable.

From your point-of-view, it is unusable today.

that's a stretch.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/word...ads/2015/10/ar
panet-map-1969.jpg

Not to mention that calling ARPANET "The internet" (note "The") is
falsifying/rewriting history.

More realistically, "The Internet" exists only after TCP/IP was
implemented, i.e after 1978, i.e at most 41 years, not 50.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite#Early_Implementation

a more detailed timeline, which lists tcp/ip at 1982:
https://www.livescience.com/20727-internet-history.html

Yes, 1982 is probably more realistic. My (Wikipedia) reference
mentioned 1978 under 'Early implementation', but indeed 1982 under
'Adoption'.

So let's settle on "A bloody long time ago!" :-)

In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

The internet is only about 25 years old,

Actually, about 50 years old.

what existed then was barely usable.

From your point-of-view, it is unusable today.

that's a stretch.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/word...ads/2015/10/ar
panet-map-1969.jpg

Not to mention that calling ARPANET "The internet" (note "The") is
falsifying/rewriting history.

More realistically, "The Internet" exists only after TCP/IP was
implemented, i.e after 1978, i.e at most 41 years, not 50.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern..._Implementatio
n

a more detailed timeline, which lists tcp/ip at 1982:
https://www.livescience.com/20727-internet-history.html

Yes, 1982 is probably more realistic. My (Wikipedia) reference
mentioned 1978 under 'Early implementation', but indeed 1982 under
'Adoption'.

yep, but tcp/ip alone isn't enough. the various protocols appeared in
the following years, such as 1985 for dns:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
...the Domain Name System has been an essential component of the
functionality of the Internet since 1985.

So let's settle on "A bloody long time ago!" :-)

yep.

nospam wrote:

calling another system 70 miles away is not the 'internet'.

It could be if he connected to an ISP with the acoustical connector,
but it probably wasn't.

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In article , Tim Slattery
wrote:

calling another system 70 miles away is not the 'internet'.

It could be if he connected to an ISP with the acoustical connector,
but it probably wasn't.

there weren't isps in the early 1980s.

https://www.computerhope.com/history/1989.htm
The first ISP known as "The World" began servicing customers.



In article , Keith Nuttle
wrote:
I remember my introduction to the "Internet". I was working in the
civilian part of Ft Deitrick in Maryland in the early 1980's. One day