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w10 and ftp speed
Hi All,
A customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers. Google lights up like a Christmas tree. But I am not finding anything helpful. You guys got any suggestions? Many thanks, -T |
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T wrote:
customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers. slow with one big file, or slow with lots of tiny files? |
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On 8/1/2019 1:16 AM, T wrote:
Hi All, A customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers.Â*Â* Google lights up like a Christmas tree.Â* But I am not finding anything helpful. You guys got any suggestions? Many thanks, -T I've not seen any difference in FTP speeds based on the OS in use. What app is your customer using for FTP? -- best regards, Neil |
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On 01/08/2019 13:06, Neil wrote:
I've not seen any difference in FTP speeds based on the OS in use. What app is your customer using for FTP? And you don't even know that you are responding to a rogue trader by the name of T with his other nyms as: Todd&Margo, and tb just to name a few. He is defrauding his customers by pretending that he is an expert in Windows system when, in fact, he hates everything Microsoft does. He himself doesn't use Windows either. -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Neil wrote:
On 8/1/2019 1:16 AM, T wrote: Hi All, A customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers. Google lights up like a Christmas tree. But I am not finding anything helpful. You guys got any suggestions? Many thanks, -T I've not seen any difference in FTP speeds based on the OS in use. What app is your customer using for FTP? I would agree with this. Vanilla FTP uses nothing for crypto, so the overhead is zero. (Your username and password are plaintext, and can be captured in Wireshark.) It's as close to a hardware pumping exercise as you can get. For example, on my Mac G4, in an attempt to "dd" transfer the entire drive as a form of backup, FTP worked at 112MB/sec in that case. Which is more or less GbE minus overhead. If FTP wasn't such a pain to set up, I'd use it more often. You can set up an "FTPD" on Windows 10, using Control Panels : Programs and Features : Windows Features and look for the IIS entries. IIS gives a web server and an FTP server (turn on either one or both of them). But be aware the FTP server needs some configuration, which is a nuisance. Unlike the Mac G4, which uses your account and your home directory as defaults for FTP, and setting up FTP on that machine is a "single radio button and done". The IIS version of that is hardly that easy... Once configured though, there's probably some easy way to disable it from session to session. Sticking a fork into whatever service that uses, might be enough. Paul |
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On 7/31/19 11:37 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote: customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers. slow with one big file, or slow with lots of tiny files? Both. What takes 25 minutes on w7 takes over 24 hours to a local ftp server |
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On 8/1/19 5:06 AM, Neil wrote:
On 8/1/2019 1:16 AM, T wrote: Hi All, A customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers.Â*Â* Google lights up like a Christmas tree.Â* But I am not finding anything helpful. You guys got any suggestions? Many thanks, -T I've not seen any difference in FTP speeds based on the OS in use. What app is your customer using for FTP? Cobian backup. From the Google hits I have seen, it is across the board. |
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T wrote:
What takes 25 minutes on w7 takes over 24 hours to a local ftp server what does taskmanager (or perfmon) show while this is going on, cpu spiky or flat? NIC throughput spiky or flat, disk throughput, queue length? |
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On 8/1/19 11:11 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote: What takes 25 minutes on w7 takes over 24 hours to a local ftp server what does taskmanager (or perfmon) show while this is going on, cpu spiky or flat? NIC throughput spiky or flat, disk throughput, queue length? I don't remember anything out of the ordinary. But this is just faded memory. I will have to get permission from the customer to continue researching on his machine before double checking |
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On 7/31/19 10:16 PM, T wrote:
Hi All, A customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers.Â*Â* Google lights up like a Christmas tree.Â* But I am not finding anything helpful. You guys got any suggestions? Many thanks, -T Hmmmm. Now I have a W7 client doing it. 4 hour but not over 24. But still .... -T |
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T wrote:
On 7/31/19 10:16 PM, T wrote: Hi All, A customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers. Google lights up like a Christmas tree. But I am not finding anything helpful. You guys got any suggestions? Many thanks, -T Hmmmm. Now I have a W7 client doing it. 4 hour but not over 24. But still .... -T So you know it's something like a networking issue, like a different in MTU definition somewhere. Depending on where the FTP session is going (like out the WAN). Why aren't you capturing a second or two of this FTP transfer with Wireshark, for a look ? What do the packets tell you ? Are the packets 512 bytes, 1546 bytes, some other number ? Paul |
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On 8/2/19 4:20 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote: On 7/31/19 10:16 PM, T wrote: Hi All, A customer of mine is getting stung by the problems in W10 with FTP speed transfers.Â*Â* Google lights up like a Christmas tree.Â* But I am not finding anything helpful. You guys got any suggestions? Many thanks, -T Hmmmm.Â* Now I have a W7 client doing it.Â* 4 hour but not over 24.Â* But still .... -T So you know it's something like a networking issue, like a different in MTU definition somewhere. Depending on where the FTP session is going (like out the WAN). Why aren't you capturing a second or two of this FTP transfer with Wireshark, for a look ? What do the packets tell you ? Are the packets 512 bytes, 1546 bytes, some other number ? Â*Â* Paul The FTP Server needed rebooting. Total backup time: 0 hours, 9 minutes, 36 seconds Now to figure out W10's issue. (I did reboot the server the last time I trouble shoot it too but it did not help.) Thank you for the tips! |
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On 8/1/19 9:38 AM, Paul wrote:
IfÂ*FTPÂ*wasn'tÂ*suchÂ*aÂ*painÂ*toÂ*setÂ*up,Â*I'd *useÂ*itÂ*moreÂ*often. Pretty easy in Linux. The last one I set up, I took down notes as to how to do it. Would you like a copy of them? |
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On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 08:11:46 -0700, T wrote:
On 8/1/19 9:38 AM, Paul wrote: If*FTP*wasn't*such*a*pain*to*set*up,*I'd*use*it*mo re*often. Pretty easy in Linux. The last one I set up, I took down notes as to how to do it. Would you like a copy of them? I assume Paul was kidding. It only takes a few minutes to set up the IIS FTP server in Windows. Third party FTP servers are about the same. |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 08:11:46 -0700, T wrote: On 8/1/19 9:38 AM, Paul wrote: If FTP wasn't such a pain to set up, I'd use it more often. Pretty easy in Linux. The last one I set up, I took down notes as to how to do it. Would you like a copy of them? I assume Paul was kidding. It only takes a few minutes to set up the IIS FTP server in Windows. Third party FTP servers are about the same. Um, I'm not "hungry for FTP" at the moment. Thanks. I needed an FTP server on a Windows box, when I wanted to backup the hard drive on the Mac G4. The SMB client on the Mac was broken (race condition when entering username/password prevents authentication with any Windows box). So I used an FTP pipe. ftp binary ftp put "|dd if=/dev/sda bs=73728" sda That transfers all the sectors of /dev/sda to an 80GB file called "sda" on the Windows box. The OS used on the G4 at that instant in time, might well have been the PowerPC version of Ubuntu (need the MacOSX to "buzz off" so the files will be at rest and the image will have integrity). And later, I was able to mount the "sda" file and work with it. I even did my own, crude, partition editor program (when Gparted attempted to **** up the partition table on me). So stuff like that is saved for birthdays and special occasions. And if you ask "why not just open the Mac box and move the disk into the Windows box?". Good question. The G4 quad nostril has a scissor case, and it also has a custom cooling system mounted on the back of it. I chose to use the "tricky method" so I would not have to open it up and disturb anything. That machine hasn't been opened for around 10 years or so. I hate scissor cases (Dell uses those too). Paul |
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