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Old February 22nd 05, 02:11 PM
Gordon Abbot
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I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I
have not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and
shortcuts and remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA
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Old February 22nd 05, 02:21 PM
Raymond J. Johnson Jr.
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"Gordon Abbot" wrote in message
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| I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
| Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I
| have not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and
| shortcuts and remove dead entries.
|
| If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?
|
| Thanks.
|
| GA
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A good alternative is to leave XP's registry alone unless there's a specific
need to edit it. There's nothing to be gained by it unless you're having a
specific problem.


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Old February 22nd 05, 03:24 PM
Not Me
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Good Morning,
Some of the Norton Utility programs, and I believe the the Win Doctor
program you are discussing is one of them, can be run directly from the
CD. The point: load up the CD and give it a try. Despite the other
comments, I used it for years without problems. After all, it will only
do what you allow.
Gene K

Gordon Abbot wrote:
I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I
have not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and
shortcuts and remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA

  #4  
Old February 22nd 05, 03:49 PM
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
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Forget about anything Norton..

This statement also includes late model Norton motorcycles.. the best part
of a Norton was the 'Featherbed' frame..

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MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"Gordon Abbot" wrote in message
...
I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I have
not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and shortcuts and
remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA
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  #5  
Old February 22nd 05, 05:26 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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The native defragger has always been in Windows. I used it with 95.

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"Gordon Abbot" wrote in message
...
I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I have
not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and shortcuts and
remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA
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My address is spoofed, so do not reply directly.



  #6  
Old February 22nd 05, 06:27 PM
R. C. White
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Hi, Gordon.

Not long after I got my first MS-DOS computer in the early 1980s, I
discovered the Norton Utilities and used them (DiskEdit was my favorite)
until the late 1990s. After Symantec bought them from Peter Norton, they
became more and more fluff and eye candy and less gut-level utilities. By
Win98, they were beginning to cause me more problems and frustration than
they were fixing. I've forgotten which was the last full SystemWorks that I
used; probably the 2000 version.

When Win2K arrived, in February 2000, NSW became unbearable for me. Win2K's
built-in utilities did nearly all that I needed done except defrag. WinXP
needs Norton even less. All I need now is protection from malware arriving
via the Internet. So I still use Norton Internet Security. The firewall
protects from outgoing exploits (malware "phoning home", maybe sending my
SSN or credit card number); the antispam is not really necessary because my
ISP filters out most of it, but it's good to have the additional filter; and
a good antivirus is essential - and NAV continues to do a good job for me.
As for defrag: It's not needed as much with NTFS; WinXP's built-in
defragger is adequate; and I now use PerfectDisk. WinXP does a much better
job than Win9x/ME of managing its Registry. I seldom even need such inbuilt
utilities as Disk Cleanup or Chkdsk.

Just my experience, which you can add to your databank. My recommendation:
Use NIS (or a comparable package from other sources) and forget the rest of
Symantec/Norton's maintenance programs. (I haven't needed utilities like
Partition Magic or Ghost in a long time, so I can't comment on current
versions of those.)

RC
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San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP

"Gordon Abbot" wrote in message
...
I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I have
not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and shortcuts and
remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA


  #7  
Old February 22nd 05, 08:51 PM
Byte
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I also uninstalled Norton Utilities recently, including my anti-virus and
switched to AVG (Grisoft), it is free and a lot better than Norton. You can
download a free copy of EasyCleaner 2.0 which can do as much as Norton
Utilities and is very effective.
Free download EasyCleaner 2.0.6.373 :: Registry :: Soft Ideas.com ::

http://download.soft-ideas.com/regis...etails483.html

"Gordon Abbot" wrote:

I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I
have not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and
shortcuts and remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA
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My address is spoofed, so do not reply directly.

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Old February 22nd 05, 09:19 PM
J&P
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"Byte" wrote in message ...
I also uninstalled Norton Utilities recently, including my anti-virus and
switched to AVG (Grisoft), it is free and a lot better than Norton. You
can
download a free copy of EasyCleaner 2.0 which can do as much as Norton
Utilities and is very effective.
Free download EasyCleaner 2.0.6.373 :: Registry :: Soft Ideas.com ::


Byte,

Have they made Norton Utilities any easier to uninstall? Can you now do it
through Windows 'Add and Remove Programs' or do have to use Norton's messy
uninstall program?

Regards
Joe Steele


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Old February 22nd 05, 10:03 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Through Add/Remove, but it is simpler to insert the Symantec cd and choose
to uninstall the components.

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"J&P" wrote in message
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"Byte" wrote in message ...
I also uninstalled Norton Utilities recently, including my anti-virus and
switched to AVG (Grisoft), it is free and a lot better than Norton. You
can
download a free copy of EasyCleaner 2.0 which can do as much as Norton
Utilities and is very effective.
Free download EasyCleaner 2.0.6.373 :: Registry :: Soft Ideas.com ::


Byte,

Have they made Norton Utilities any easier to uninstall? Can you now do
it through Windows 'Add and Remove Programs' or do have to use Norton's
messy uninstall program?

Regards
Joe Steele



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Old February 23rd 05, 08:53 AM
J&P
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"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message ...

Through Add/Remove, but it is simpler to insert the Symantec cd and choose
to uninstall the components.


Thanks for the reply, Colin.

Joe Steele



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Old February 23rd 05, 09:12 AM
Colin Barnhorst
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You're welcome.

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"J&P" wrote in message
...

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message ...

Through Add/Remove, but it is simpler to insert the Symantec cd and
choose
to uninstall the components.


Thanks for the reply, Colin.

Joe Steele





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Old February 23rd 05, 09:41 AM
johnf
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Agree, especially the Manx 500cc OHC, ideal for road-racing - you must be
almost as old as me :-)


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johnf

Forget about anything Norton..

This statement also includes late model Norton motorcycles.. the best
part of a Norton was the 'Featherbed' frame..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"Gordon Abbot" wrote in message
...
I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I
have not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and
shortcuts and remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA
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My address is spoofed, so do not reply directly.



  #13  
Old February 23rd 05, 01:11 PM
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
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Most likely, John

Tritons rule.. a good pre-unit Bonnie.. Avons back and front.. smokin..

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http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"johnf" wrote in message
...
Agree, especially the Manx 500cc OHC, ideal for road-racing - you must be
almost as old as me :-)


--

johnf

Forget about anything Norton..

This statement also includes late model Norton motorcycles.. the best
part of a Norton was the 'Featherbed' frame..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"Gordon Abbot" wrote in message
...
I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I
have not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and
shortcuts and remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA
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My address is spoofed, so do not reply directly.





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Old February 23rd 05, 01:59 PM
johnf
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Featherbed frame - that would be around 1954?


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johnf

Most likely, John

Tritons rule.. a good pre-unit Bonnie.. Avons back and front.. smokin..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"johnf" wrote in message
...
Agree, especially the Manx 500cc OHC, ideal for road-racing - you must
be almost as old as me :-)


--

johnf

Forget about anything Norton..

This statement also includes late model Norton motorcycles.. the best
part of a Norton was the 'Featherbed' frame..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"Gordon Abbot" wrote in message
...
I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I
have not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and
shortcuts and remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA
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My address is spoofed, so do not reply directly.



  #15  
Old February 23rd 05, 06:03 PM
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
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For sure.. I just looked up about the year, and found this.. it maybe my
age, but I would rather have one of these than a modern day plastic
missile.. a DBD34 Gold Star would be cool too.. proper cafe racers..

Those were the days.. here are some links for you.. nice Triton, eh..

http://home.egge.net/~savory/triton.htm

http://www.ace-cafe-london.com/f2_2.htm

http://www.motorbike-search-engine.c...bikes/bsa.html



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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"johnf" wrote in message
...
Featherbed frame - that would be around 1954?


--

johnf

Most likely, John

Tritons rule.. a good pre-unit Bonnie.. Avons back and front.. smokin..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"johnf" wrote in message
...
Agree, especially the Manx 500cc OHC, ideal for road-racing - you must
be almost as old as me :-)


--

johnf

Forget about anything Norton..

This statement also includes late model Norton motorcycles.. the best
part of a Norton was the 'Featherbed' frame..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"Gordon Abbot" wrote in message
...
I just shifted from win98 se to xp and decided to finally ditch Norton
Utilities. I see that xp has a native defragger and disk scanner but I
have not seen anything like win doctor, to check the registry and
shortcuts and remove dead entries.

If not in windows xp, what are good alternatives to Norton Utilities?

Thanks.

GA
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My address is spoofed, so do not reply directly.





 




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