Error when setting printing preferences

When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print button, go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error message and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the features tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

this is typically memory corruption within the application caused by the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications to terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible that there is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can track this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since this will fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
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"Horseluvr" wrote in message
news
When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print button, go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

thanks Alan. I tried what you said but it's still saying the internet has
encountered a problem and need to close. Any other suggestions?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

this is typically memory corruption within the application caused by the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications to terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible that there is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can track this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since this will fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
news
When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print button, go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

there should be a user dump file at the time of the crash or an entry in
drwatson.log in \windows directory

Look for the log file in \windows.

if it is there open the log file with notepad and search for FAULT

there will be some hex data with a faulting trace of the last few code
executions.

If there is not a log file but a dump file instead, you can load the file in
a debugger and dump the stack.

but I'll hold off on the instructions for this method if the log file is not
there.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

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"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
thanks Alan. I tried what you said but it's still saying the internet has
encountered a problem and need to close. Any other suggestions?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

this is typically memory corruption within the application caused by the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications to
terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible that there
is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can track this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since this will
fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
news
When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print button,
go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error
message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

Okay, I looked in the security log file and could not find anything that said
drwatson.log. Am I looking in the right place for it? You will have to
excuse me, I am kind of a computer dummy about this kind of thing.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

there should be a user dump file at the time of the crash or an entry in
drwatson.log in \windows directory

Look for the log file in \windows.

if it is there open the log file with notepad and search for FAULT

there will be some hex data with a faulting trace of the last few code
executions.

If there is not a log file but a dump file instead, you can load the file in
a debugger and dump the stack.

but I'll hold off on the instructions for this method if the log file is not
there.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
thanks Alan. I tried what you said but it's still saying the internet has
encountered a problem and need to close. Any other suggestions?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

this is typically memory corruption within the application caused by the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications to
terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible that there
is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can track this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since this will
fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
news When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print button,
go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error
message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

The instructions are complex for debugging the application. What print
driver are you using?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
Okay, I looked in the security log file and could not find anything that
said
drwatson.log. Am I looking in the right place for it? You will have to
excuse me, I am kind of a computer dummy about this kind of thing.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

there should be a user dump file at the time of the crash or an entry in
drwatson.log in \windows directory

Look for the log file in \windows.

if it is there open the log file with notepad and search for FAULT

there will be some hex data with a faulting trace of the last few code
executions.

If there is not a log file but a dump file instead, you can load the file
in
a debugger and dump the stack.

but I'll hold off on the instructions for this method if the log file is
not
there.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
thanks Alan. I tried what you said but it's still saying the internet
has
encountered a problem and need to close. Any other suggestions?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

this is typically memory corruption within the application caused by
the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications to
terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible that
there
is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can track
this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since this will
fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
news When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print
button,
go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error
message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the
features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

I am not sure. How do I tell? Also, when I deleted my printer from the
computer, did that remove the driver too? If not, can you tell me how to
remove the driver and I will try to delete the printer and driver and
reinstall them.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

The instructions are complex for debugging the application. What print
driver are you using?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
Okay, I looked in the security log file and could not find anything that
said
drwatson.log. Am I looking in the right place for it? You will have to
excuse me, I am kind of a computer dummy about this kind of thing.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

there should be a user dump file at the time of the crash or an entry in
drwatson.log in \windows directory

Look for the log file in \windows.

if it is there open the log file with notepad and search for FAULT

there will be some hex data with a faulting trace of the last few code
executions.

If there is not a log file but a dump file instead, you can load the file
in
a debugger and dump the stack.

but I'll hold off on the instructions for this method if the log file is
not
there.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
thanks Alan. I tried what you said but it's still saying the internet
has
encountered a problem and need to close. Any other suggestions?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

this is typically memory corruption within the application caused by
the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications to
terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible that
there
is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can track
this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since this will
fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
news When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print
button,
go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error
message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the
features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

no the driver is still installed after deleting the printer.


You never mentioned what the driver is but if you have an uninstall
application for the driver, be sure to run it. Lexmark does setup calls
outside the spooler process so the only way to remove the extra stuff is to
use the uninstall program. Canon and HP have similar issues depending on
the driver and applications.


To see the list of installed drivers, Open the printers folder, right click
and white space and select
Run as administrator
Server Properties

there is a drivers tab that will give you the information and you can delete
the driver there as well.


--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

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"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
I am not sure. How do I tell? Also, when I deleted my printer from the
computer, did that remove the driver too? If not, can you tell me how to
remove the driver and I will try to delete the printer and driver and
reinstall them.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

The instructions are complex for debugging the application. What print
driver are you using?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
Okay, I looked in the security log file and could not find anything
that
said
drwatson.log. Am I looking in the right place for it? You will have
to
excuse me, I am kind of a computer dummy about this kind of thing.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

there should be a user dump file at the time of the crash or an entry
in
drwatson.log in \windows directory

Look for the log file in \windows.

if it is there open the log file with notepad and search for FAULT

there will be some hex data with a faulting trace of the last few code
executions.

If there is not a log file but a dump file instead, you can load the
file
in
a debugger and dump the stack.

but I'll hold off on the instructions for this method if the log file
is
not
there.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
thanks Alan. I tried what you said but it's still saying the
internet
has
encountered a problem and need to close. Any other suggestions?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

this is typically memory corruption within the application caused
by
the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications to
terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible that
there
is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can
track
this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since this
will
fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
news When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print
button,
go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error
message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the
features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

Okay, I actually got the driver and printer uninstalled. I finally got
everything reinstalled tonight and the internet is still closing when I try
to change the features tab on my printing preferences. So, what should I do
now? Hire a computer person to come to my house and fix it? :-)

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

no the driver is still installed after deleting the printer.


You never mentioned what the driver is but if you have an uninstall
application for the driver, be sure to run it. Lexmark does setup calls
outside the spooler process so the only way to remove the extra stuff is to
use the uninstall program. Canon and HP have similar issues depending on
the driver and applications.


To see the list of installed drivers, Open the printers folder, right click
and white space and select
Run as administrator
Server Properties

there is a drivers tab that will give you the information and you can delete
the driver there as well.


--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
I am not sure. How do I tell? Also, when I deleted my printer from the
computer, did that remove the driver too? If not, can you tell me how to
remove the driver and I will try to delete the printer and driver and
reinstall them.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

The instructions are complex for debugging the application. What print
driver are you using?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
Okay, I looked in the security log file and could not find anything
that
said
drwatson.log. Am I looking in the right place for it? You will have
to
excuse me, I am kind of a computer dummy about this kind of thing.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

there should be a user dump file at the time of the crash or an entry
in
drwatson.log in \windows directory

Look for the log file in \windows.

if it is there open the log file with notepad and search for FAULT

there will be some hex data with a faulting trace of the last few code
executions.

If there is not a log file but a dump file instead, you can load the
file
in
a debugger and dump the stack.

but I'll hold off on the instructions for this method if the log file
is
not
there.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
thanks Alan. I tried what you said but it's still saying the
internet
has
encountered a problem and need to close. Any other suggestions?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

this is typically memory corruption within the application caused
by
the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications to
terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible that
there
is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can
track
this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since this
will
fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
news When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the print
button,
go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an error
message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the
features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?

launch IE (I am assuming Internet Explorer). Only one instance please.

Open a Command Prompt and type
ntsd -pn iexplore.exe -g -G

ntsd is the debugger in windows.

this will open a new command window

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 5.2.3790.1830
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

*** wait with pending attach
Symbol search path is: g:\symbols
Executable search path is:
ModLoad: 00400000 0041a000 E:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
ModLoad: 7c800000 7c8c0000 E:\3576SRV\system32\ntdll.dll
ModLoad: 77e40000 77f42000 E:\3576SRV\system32\kernel32.dll
ModLoad: 77ba0000 77bfa000 E:\3576SRV\system32\msvcrt.dll


Now perform the print function
when the application faults, it will break to the debugger

ntdll!DbgBreakPoint:
7c822583 cc int 3
0:005

type k to dump the stack trace, paste the information back. You never
mentioned the print driver you are using.





0:005 k
ChildEBP RetAddr
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be
wrong.
01dbfff4 00000000 ntdll!DbgBreakPoint


--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
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http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

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"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
Okay, I actually got the driver and printer uninstalled. I finally got
everything reinstalled tonight and the internet is still closing when I
try
to change the features tab on my printing preferences. So, what should I
do
now? Hire a computer person to come to my house and fix it? :-)

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

no the driver is still installed after deleting the printer.


You never mentioned what the driver is but if you have an uninstall
application for the driver, be sure to run it. Lexmark does setup calls
outside the spooler process so the only way to remove the extra stuff is
to
use the uninstall program. Canon and HP have similar issues depending on
the driver and applications.


To see the list of installed drivers, Open the printers folder, right
click
and white space and select
Run as administrator
Server Properties

there is a drivers tab that will give you the information and you can
delete
the driver there as well.


--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
I am not sure. How do I tell? Also, when I deleted my printer from the
computer, did that remove the driver too? If not, can you tell me how
to
remove the driver and I will try to delete the printer and driver and
reinstall them.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

The instructions are complex for debugging the application. What
print
driver are you using?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
Okay, I looked in the security log file and could not find anything
that
said
drwatson.log. Am I looking in the right place for it? You will
have
to
excuse me, I am kind of a computer dummy about this kind of thing.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

there should be a user dump file at the time of the crash or an
entry
in
drwatson.log in \windows directory

Look for the log file in \windows.

if it is there open the log file with notepad and search for FAULT

there will be some hex data with a faulting trace of the last few
code
executions.

If there is not a log file but a dump file instead, you can load
the
file
in
a debugger and dump the stack.

but I'll hold off on the instructions for this method if the log
file
is
not
there.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in message
...
thanks Alan. I tried what you said but it's still saying the
internet
has
encountered a problem and need to close. Any other suggestions?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

this is typically memory corruption within the application
caused
by
the
print driver UI settings page.

Most likely the same print driver will cause other applications
to
terminate
with changing their preferences from the defaults.


Delete the printer and driver, then reinstall. It's possible
that
there
is
a problem with one of the driver files.

If you have any user dump files of the failing process you can
track
this
better but give the uninstall / reinstall a shot first since
this
will
fix
the issue about 95% of the time



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no
rights.

"Horseluvr" wrote in
message
news When I am using the internet and want to print, I hit the
print
button,
go
into preferences, then features and half the time I get an
error
message
and
it closes the internet. It only does this when I click on the
features
tab.
Any ideas why and how to solve the problem?