Win XP install problems

At the suggestion of some who have responded, I'm starting a new
thread on this set of problems. I will try to summarize the situation
as well as I can.

I built a new desktop computer, using an ASUS P7P55D Deluxe
motherboard with an Intel Core i7 2.8 GHz LGA1156 CPU. I installed 4
GB (2 X 2GB modules - matched pair) of Corsair SMA3 DXH Dual Path DDR3
RAM, installed in the DIMM A1 and DIMM B1 sockets. This computer has
one Western Digital Caviar Green 500 GB/Go 7200/1600/SATA-3G hard
drive that was factory formatted but has no files on it other than
those Windows XP install CD may have written to the hard drive.

This computer has a new Ultra USB LSP 650 Watt Power Supply, so power
provisions should not be an issue.

I initially set this computer up with a Radeon HD 4650 PCI Express 2.0
bus Graphics Card in one of the PCI Express 2.0x16 slots, but I later
removed this and installed an older GeForce 5200 NVIDIA graphics card
that uses a conventional PCI slot. I did this to see if the PCI
Express slot requirements were what was bogging Windows XP (without
any SPs) down. It made no difference.

With either graphics card installed, I can put the Windows XP CD in
the drive then power up. The computer goes through the initialize
phase in good order with the ASUS screens showing and the Press Del to
enter setup message across the bottom.

I can press the Del key and it will enter the BIOS setup. Everything
looks fine here. The memory, hard drive, CD ROM, etc., are all shown
as expected. I have set the boot sequence for CD ROM first then Hard
Drive second.

Keep in mind that this is a new hard drive that was factory formatted
but not partitioned nor has it been assigned a drive letter, yet. No
files have been copied onto this hard drive until the Windows XP setup
process started copying some.

After reviewing the BIOS setup I can press the Escape or the F10 key
and move on. This starts the Windows setup from the Windows XP CD that
I had earlier placed in the CD ROM drive. At the beginning of the
Windows setup I get a message to the effect, "Checking hardware
consistency." then it moves on as if everything is okay.

This setup procedure seems to go along very well through the loading
of many programs or files, then everything halts and an error message
is presented on the screen. The only way out of this is to re-boot,
but this just repeats, over and over again.

The error message reads:

A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent
damage to your computer.

Check to be sure you have adequate disk space. (The BIOS shows the
full 500 GB hard drive space is "present and accounted for," as my old
Army field first sergeant used to say.)

If a driver is identified in the stop message, disable the driver or
check with the manufacturer for updates.

Try changing the video adapters.

Check with your hardware vendors for any BIOS updates.

Disable caching or shadowing memory.

If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components restart
your computer and press F8 to select advanced startup options then
select safe mode.

Technical information:

*** STOP: 0x0000007E, (0xC0000005, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08, 0xE9E83F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748EOBF base at F7487000, date stamp 3b7d855c


I have tried starting in safe mode, but since I do not yet have an OS
installed this doesn't work.

Some information I've gotten on-line suggests that Windows XP, as
installed from my CD, without any SPs installed, cannot handle the PCI
Express motherboard attributes, and this is causing the install
failure.

So, if I cannot install my retail box copy of Windows XP on this
computer it seems that I will not be able to use the upgrade version
of Windows 7, but instead must buy the full version. But, I'm
concerned that even a full version of Windows 7 may not install any
more successfully7 than my old Windows XP.

Is the problem(s) being caused by a bad build of my computer or maybe
from some flawed parts, or is it a universal problem experienced by
all who try to install Windows XP without the SPs onto a newer
computer that has PCI Express?

I'm at the brain burn-out stage. Any help or suggestions will be
greatly appreciated.

Oh, one more point...the CD ROM will not read any other setup CDs
except the Windows XP CD. I can place any of the other setup CDs in
the drive then go through the same boot process and never get any
further action from the CD drive. Why will it work with the Windows XP
CD but not recognize any other setup CDs???

Gordon

Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to install the
XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Seeing as you have the old computer I suggest you download SP1 and SP3 and
using your
version of XP slipstream first SP1 into it.This creates a new bootable
version of XP SP1.
Then slipstream SP3 into that..this again will create a new bootable version
of SP3.
If you do a Google on slipstream you will find its fairly painless.I used
"Autostreamer.
Unfortunately I don't remember the MS website for the SP downloads but I am
sure a search or maybe someone
here will post the site.
I suggest you format the HD that you tried the installation on before trying
again so as to get rid of the old install files
I installed XP SP1 onto a new system with PCI-E video card without problems
last year using a slipstreamed version.

good luck
peter

--
If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate
or disruptive,please ignore it.
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"Antares 531" wrote in message
news
At the suggestion of some who have responded, I'm starting a new
thread on this set of problems. I will try to summarize the situation
as well as I can.

I built a new desktop computer, using an ASUS P7P55D Deluxe
motherboard with an Intel Core i7 2.8 GHz LGA1156 CPU. I installed 4
GB (2 X 2GB modules - matched pair) of Corsair SMA3 DXH Dual Path DDR3
RAM, installed in the DIMM A1 and DIMM B1 sockets. This computer has
one Western Digital Caviar Green 500 GB/Go 7200/1600/SATA-3G hard
drive that was factory formatted but has no files on it other than
those Windows XP install CD may have written to the hard drive.

This computer has a new Ultra USB LSP 650 Watt Power Supply, so power
provisions should not be an issue.

I initially set this computer up with a Radeon HD 4650 PCI Express 2.0
bus Graphics Card in one of the PCI Express 2.0x16 slots, but I later
removed this and installed an older GeForce 5200 NVIDIA graphics card
that uses a conventional PCI slot. I did this to see if the PCI
Express slot requirements were what was bogging Windows XP (without
any SPs) down. It made no difference.

With either graphics card installed, I can put the Windows XP CD in
the drive then power up. The computer goes through the initialize
phase in good order with the ASUS screens showing and the Press Del to
enter setup message across the bottom.

I can press the Del key and it will enter the BIOS setup. Everything
looks fine here. The memory, hard drive, CD ROM, etc., are all shown
as expected. I have set the boot sequence for CD ROM first then Hard
Drive second.

Keep in mind that this is a new hard drive that was factory formatted
but not partitioned nor has it been assigned a drive letter, yet. No
files have been copied onto this hard drive until the Windows XP setup
process started copying some.

After reviewing the BIOS setup I can press the Escape or the F10 key
and move on. This starts the Windows setup from the Windows XP CD that
I had earlier placed in the CD ROM drive. At the beginning of the
Windows setup I get a message to the effect, "Checking hardware
consistency." then it moves on as if everything is okay.

This setup procedure seems to go along very well through the loading
of many programs or files, then everything halts and an error message
is presented on the screen. The only way out of this is to re-boot,
but this just repeats, over and over again.

The error message reads:

A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent
damage to your computer.

Check to be sure you have adequate disk space. (The BIOS shows the
full 500 GB hard drive space is "present and accounted for," as my old
Army field first sergeant used to say.)

If a driver is identified in the stop message, disable the driver or
check with the manufacturer for updates.

Try changing the video adapters.

Check with your hardware vendors for any BIOS updates.

Disable caching or shadowing memory.

If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components restart
your computer and press F8 to select advanced startup options then
select safe mode.

Technical information:

*** STOP: 0x0000007E, (0xC0000005, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08, 0xE9E83F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748EOBF base at F7487000, date stamp 3b7d855c


I have tried starting in safe mode, but since I do not yet have an OS
installed this doesn't work.

Some information I've gotten on-line suggests that Windows XP, as
installed from my CD, without any SPs installed, cannot handle the PCI
Express motherboard attributes, and this is causing the install
failure.

So, if I cannot install my retail box copy of Windows XP on this
computer it seems that I will not be able to use the upgrade version
of Windows 7, but instead must buy the full version. But, I'm
concerned that even a full version of Windows 7 may not install any
more successfully7 than my old Windows XP.

Is the problem(s) being caused by a bad build of my computer or maybe
from some flawed parts, or is it a universal problem experienced by
all who try to install Windows XP without the SPs onto a newer
computer that has PCI Express?

I'm at the brain burn-out stage. Any help or suggestions will be
greatly appreciated.

Oh, one more point...the CD ROM will not read any other setup CDs
except the Windows XP CD. I can place any of the other setup CDs in
the drive then go through the same boot process and never get any
further action from the CD drive. Why will it work with the Windows XP
CD but not recognize any other setup CDs???

Gordon

Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to install the
XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Seeing as you have the old computer I suggest you download SP1 and SP3 and
using your
version of XP slipstream first SP1 into it.This creates a new bootable
version of XP SP1.
Then slipstream SP3 into that..this again will create a new bootable version
of SP3.
If you do a Google on slipstream you will find its fairly painless.I used
"Autostreamer.
Unfortunately I don't remember the MS website for the SP downloads but I am
sure a search or maybe someone
here will post the site.
I suggest you format the HD that you tried the installation on before trying
again so as to get rid of the old install files
I installed XP SP1 onto a new system with PCI-E video card without problems
last year using a slipstreamed version.

good luck
peter

--
If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate
or disruptive,please ignore it.
If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain
to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-)

"Antares 531" wrote in message
news
At the suggestion of some who have responded, I'm starting a new
thread on this set of problems. I will try to summarize the situation
as well as I can.

I built a new desktop computer, using an ASUS P7P55D Deluxe
motherboard with an Intel Core i7 2.8 GHz LGA1156 CPU. I installed 4
GB (2 X 2GB modules - matched pair) of Corsair SMA3 DXH Dual Path DDR3
RAM, installed in the DIMM A1 and DIMM B1 sockets. This computer has
one Western Digital Caviar Green 500 GB/Go 7200/1600/SATA-3G hard
drive that was factory formatted but has no files on it other than
those Windows XP install CD may have written to the hard drive.

This computer has a new Ultra USB LSP 650 Watt Power Supply, so power
provisions should not be an issue.

I initially set this computer up with a Radeon HD 4650 PCI Express 2.0
bus Graphics Card in one of the PCI Express 2.0x16 slots, but I later
removed this and installed an older GeForce 5200 NVIDIA graphics card
that uses a conventional PCI slot. I did this to see if the PCI
Express slot requirements were what was bogging Windows XP (without
any SPs) down. It made no difference.

With either graphics card installed, I can put the Windows XP CD in
the drive then power up. The computer goes through the initialize
phase in good order with the ASUS screens showing and the Press Del to
enter setup message across the bottom.

I can press the Del key and it will enter the BIOS setup. Everything
looks fine here. The memory, hard drive, CD ROM, etc., are all shown
as expected. I have set the boot sequence for CD ROM first then Hard
Drive second.

Keep in mind that this is a new hard drive that was factory formatted
but not partitioned nor has it been assigned a drive letter, yet. No
files have been copied onto this hard drive until the Windows XP setup
process started copying some.

After reviewing the BIOS setup I can press the Escape or the F10 key
and move on. This starts the Windows setup from the Windows XP CD that
I had earlier placed in the CD ROM drive. At the beginning of the
Windows setup I get a message to the effect, "Checking hardware
consistency." then it moves on as if everything is okay.

This setup procedure seems to go along very well through the loading
of many programs or files, then everything halts and an error message
is presented on the screen. The only way out of this is to re-boot,
but this just repeats, over and over again.

The error message reads:

A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent
damage to your computer.

Check to be sure you have adequate disk space. (The BIOS shows the
full 500 GB hard drive space is "present and accounted for," as my old
Army field first sergeant used to say.)

If a driver is identified in the stop message, disable the driver or
check with the manufacturer for updates.

Try changing the video adapters.

Check with your hardware vendors for any BIOS updates.

Disable caching or shadowing memory.

If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components restart
your computer and press F8 to select advanced startup options then
select safe mode.

Technical information:

*** STOP: 0x0000007E, (0xC0000005, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08, 0xE9E83F08)

*** pci.sys - Address F748EOBF base at F7487000, date stamp 3b7d855c


I have tried starting in safe mode, but since I do not yet have an OS
installed this doesn't work.

Some information I've gotten on-line suggests that Windows XP, as
installed from my CD, without any SPs installed, cannot handle the PCI
Express motherboard attributes, and this is causing the install
failure.

So, if I cannot install my retail box copy of Windows XP on this
computer it seems that I will not be able to use the upgrade version
of Windows 7, but instead must buy the full version. But, I'm
concerned that even a full version of Windows 7 may not install any
more successfully7 than my old Windows XP.

Is the problem(s) being caused by a bad build of my computer or maybe
from some flawed parts, or is it a universal problem experienced by
all who try to install Windows XP without the SPs onto a newer
computer that has PCI Express?

I'm at the brain burn-out stage. Any help or suggestions will be
greatly appreciated.

Oh, one more point...the CD ROM will not read any other setup CDs
except the Windows XP CD. I can place any of the other setup CDs in
the drive then go through the same boot process and never get any
further action from the CD drive. Why will it work with the Windows XP
CD but not recognize any other setup CDs???

Gordon

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:56:57 -0600, "peter" wrote:

Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to install the
XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Seeing as you have the old computer I suggest you download SP1 and SP3 and
using your
version of XP slipstream first SP1 into it.This creates a new bootable
version of XP SP1.
Then slipstream SP3 into that..this again will create a new bootable version
of SP3.
If you do a Google on slipstream you will find its fairly painless.I used
"Autostreamer.
Unfortunately I don't remember the MS website for the SP downloads but I am
sure a search or maybe someone
here will post the site.
I suggest you format the HD that you tried the installation on before trying
again so as to get rid of the old install files
I installed XP SP1 onto a new system with PCI-E video card without problems
last year using a slipstreamed version.

good luck
peter

Thanks, Peter. I got the computer going, at last. I couldn't do a
slipstream for my Windows XP because I don't have the right kind of CD
burner but a friend of mine did it for me and this solved all the
problems. The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.

I still have to get this new computer on-line so I can get the Windows
XP license process finished, but that should not be any problem.

Then, I'll have a week or so to play around with it and make sure all
the hardware is working as it should before I buy an upgrade version
of Windows 7 and install it.

Thanks, very much, to all who have chipped in and offered information.
I really appreciate all the help I received.

Gordon

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:56:57 -0600, "peter" wrote:

Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to install the
XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Seeing as you have the old computer I suggest you download SP1 and SP3 and
using your
version of XP slipstream first SP1 into it.This creates a new bootable
version of XP SP1.
Then slipstream SP3 into that..this again will create a new bootable version
of SP3.
If you do a Google on slipstream you will find its fairly painless.I used
"Autostreamer.
Unfortunately I don't remember the MS website for the SP downloads but I am
sure a search or maybe someone
here will post the site.
I suggest you format the HD that you tried the installation on before trying
again so as to get rid of the old install files
I installed XP SP1 onto a new system with PCI-E video card without problems
last year using a slipstreamed version.

good luck
peter

Thanks, Peter. I got the computer going, at last. I couldn't do a
slipstream for my Windows XP because I don't have the right kind of CD
burner but a friend of mine did it for me and this solved all the
problems. The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.

I still have to get this new computer on-line so I can get the Windows
XP license process finished, but that should not be any problem.

Then, I'll have a week or so to play around with it and make sure all
the hardware is working as it should before I buy an upgrade version
of Windows 7 and install it.

Thanks, very much, to all who have chipped in and offered information.
I really appreciate all the help I received.

Gordon

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done, of
course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista mentioned
here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done, of
course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista mentioned
here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Antares 531 wrote:
The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.

Good news!

Which method worked for you, Gordon?

Antares 531 wrote:
The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.

Good news!

Which method worked for you, Gordon?

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:30:46 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.

Good news!

Which method worked for you, Gordon?

I don't know which method my friend used. I didn't watch over his
shoulder and he didn't provide any specifics. All I know is that it
worked, and this resolved all the problems with installing Windows XP
Pro on my new computer. I did have to show it my old Windows 2000 CD
during the install process but that was to be expected since my copy
of Windows XP Pro is an upgrade copy.

Now, if I can just get the new computer to talk to the LAN Router
Firewall and get on through to the Internet so I can go on-line and
get this installation's license cleared, all will be well.

Gordon

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:30:46 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.

Good news!

Which method worked for you, Gordon?

I don't know which method my friend used. I didn't watch over his
shoulder and he didn't provide any specifics. All I know is that it
worked, and this resolved all the problems with installing Windows XP
Pro on my new computer. I did have to show it my old Windows 2000 CD
during the install process but that was to be expected since my copy
of Windows XP Pro is an upgrade copy.

Now, if I can just get the new computer to talk to the LAN Router
Firewall and get on through to the Internet so I can go on-line and
get this installation's license cleared, all will be well.

Gordon

On Oct 14, 2:34*am, Antares 531 wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:56:57 -0600, "peter" wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to install the
XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Seeing as you have the old computer I suggest you download SP1 and SP3 and
using your
version of XP slipstream first SP1 into it.This creates a new bootable
version of XP SP1.
Then slipstream SP3 into that..this again will create a new bootable version
of SP3.
If you do a Google on slipstream you will find its fairly painless.I used
"Autostreamer.
Unfortunately I don't remember the MS website for the SP downloads but I am
sure a search or maybe someone
here will post the site.
I suggest you format the HD that you tried the installation on before trying
again so as to get rid of the old install files
I installed XP SP1 onto a new system with PCI-E video card without problems
last year using a slipstreamed version.

good luck
peter

Thanks, Peter. I got the computer going, at last. I couldn't do a
slipstream for my Windows XP because I don't have the right kind of CD
burner but a friend of mine did it for me and this solved all the
problems. The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.

I still have to get this new computer on-line so I can get the Windows
XP license process finished, but that should not be any problem.

Then, I'll have a week or so to play around with it and make sure all
the hardware is working as it should before I buy an upgrade version
of Windows 7 and install it.

Thanks, very much, to all who have chipped in and offered information.
I really appreciate all the help I received.

Gordon

This seems to indicate that your XP install CD had troubles accessing
the "large" 500GB hard drive correctly. It also means that you may
have had the original XP version which was limited to 128GB hard drive
size. Microsoft had fixed this issue with SP1 which is automatically
included in SP3,

On Oct 14, 2:34*am, Antares 531 wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:56:57 -0600, "peter" wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to install the
XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Seeing as you have the old computer I suggest you download SP1 and SP3 and
using your
version of XP slipstream first SP1 into it.This creates a new bootable
version of XP SP1.
Then slipstream SP3 into that..this again will create a new bootable version
of SP3.
If you do a Google on slipstream you will find its fairly painless.I used
"Autostreamer.
Unfortunately I don't remember the MS website for the SP downloads but I am
sure a search or maybe someone
here will post the site.
I suggest you format the HD that you tried the installation on before trying
again so as to get rid of the old install files
I installed XP SP1 onto a new system with PCI-E video card without problems
last year using a slipstreamed version.

good luck
peter

Thanks, Peter. I got the computer going, at last. I couldn't do a
slipstream for my Windows XP because I don't have the right kind of CD
burner but a friend of mine did it for me and this solved all the
problems. The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.

I still have to get this new computer on-line so I can get the Windows
XP license process finished, but that should not be any problem.

Then, I'll have a week or so to play around with it and make sure all
the hardware is working as it should before I buy an upgrade version
of Windows 7 and install it.

Thanks, very much, to all who have chipped in and offered information.
I really appreciate all the help I received.

Gordon

This seems to indicate that your XP install CD had troubles accessing
the "large" 500GB hard drive correctly. It also means that you may
have had the original XP version which was limited to 128GB hard drive
size. Microsoft had fixed this issue with SP1 which is automatically
included in SP3,

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done, of
course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista mentioned
here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Daave, I see what you're saying, but I am still a bit confused, here.
I checked the BIOS and the 500 GB hard drive was correctly shown
there. Maybe doesn't extend to the Windows XP ability to recognize
this same hard drive.

Gordon

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done, of
course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista mentioned
here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Daave, I see what you're saying, but I am still a bit confused, here.
I checked the BIOS and the 500 GB hard drive was correctly shown
there. Maybe doesn't extend to the Windows XP ability to recognize
this same hard drive.

Gordon