Win XP install problems

Antares 531 wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done,
of course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista
mentioned here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Daave, I see what you're saying, but I am still a bit confused, here.
I checked the BIOS and the 500 GB hard drive was correctly shown
there. Maybe doesn't extend to the Windows XP ability to recognize
this same hard drive.

I assume you were intending to reply to smlunatick instead of me,
Gordon! This is what he posted:

This seems to indicate that your XP install CD had troubles accessing
the "large" 500GB hard drive correctly. It also means that you may
have had the original XP version which was limited to 128GB hard drive
size. Microsoft had fixed this issue with SP1 which is automatically
included in SP3,

If you installed with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level, the 128GB
limit shouldn't be in effect. However, if you were to install with XP
"Gold" (no SP), there would be trouble, yes.

Antares 531 wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done,
of course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista
mentioned here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Daave, I see what you're saying, but I am still a bit confused, here.
I checked the BIOS and the 500 GB hard drive was correctly shown
there. Maybe doesn't extend to the Windows XP ability to recognize
this same hard drive.

I assume you were intending to reply to smlunatick instead of me,
Gordon! This is what he posted:

This seems to indicate that your XP install CD had troubles accessing
the "large" 500GB hard drive correctly. It also means that you may
have had the original XP version which was limited to 128GB hard drive
size. Microsoft had fixed this issue with SP1 which is automatically
included in SP3,

If you installed with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level, the 128GB
limit shouldn't be in effect. However, if you were to install with XP
"Gold" (no SP), there would be trouble, yes.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:27:39 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done,
of course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista
mentioned here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Daave, I see what you're saying, but I am still a bit confused, here.
I checked the BIOS and the 500 GB hard drive was correctly shown
there. Maybe doesn't extend to the Windows XP ability to recognize
this same hard drive.

I assume you were intending to reply to smlunatick instead of me,
Gordon! This is what he posted:

This seems to indicate that your XP install CD had troubles accessing
the "large" 500GB hard drive correctly. It also means that you may
have had the original XP version which was limited to 128GB hard drive
size. Microsoft had fixed this issue with SP1 which is automatically
included in SP3,

If you installed with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level, the 128GB
limit shouldn't be in effect. However, if you were to install with XP
"Gold" (no SP), there would be trouble, yes.

Yes, I had the original CD that did not have any SPs. I guess this
would be what you are calling XP "Gold."

I did the second install with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level and
this corrected all the problems.

I guess where I was misunderstanding you was that the BIOS could read
the 500 GB drive and show it as being in good working order but
Windows could not, until the slipstreamed version was installed. But,
the error message I kept getting seemed to indicate that the problem
was a PCI related incongruence in that the stop information showed the
PCI.SYS address was the problem.

I'm still not out in the clear. I can't get the new computer to
communicate through our home Wi-Fi setup. It connects and shows a
strong signal, but I.E. or the mail client software can not make
connection with the Internet for some reason. I really need to get
this resolved so I can go on-line and get this Windows XP installation
validated.

Gordon

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:27:39 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done,
of course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista
mentioned here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Daave, I see what you're saying, but I am still a bit confused, here.
I checked the BIOS and the 500 GB hard drive was correctly shown
there. Maybe doesn't extend to the Windows XP ability to recognize
this same hard drive.

I assume you were intending to reply to smlunatick instead of me,
Gordon! This is what he posted:

This seems to indicate that your XP install CD had troubles accessing
the "large" 500GB hard drive correctly. It also means that you may
have had the original XP version which was limited to 128GB hard drive
size. Microsoft had fixed this issue with SP1 which is automatically
included in SP3,

If you installed with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level, the 128GB
limit shouldn't be in effect. However, if you were to install with XP
"Gold" (no SP), there would be trouble, yes.

Yes, I had the original CD that did not have any SPs. I guess this
would be what you are calling XP "Gold."

I did the second install with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level and
this corrected all the problems.

I guess where I was misunderstanding you was that the BIOS could read
the 500 GB drive and show it as being in good working order but
Windows could not, until the slipstreamed version was installed. But,
the error message I kept getting seemed to indicate that the problem
was a PCI related incongruence in that the stop information showed the
PCI.SYS address was the problem.

I'm still not out in the clear. I can't get the new computer to
communicate through our home Wi-Fi setup. It connects and shows a
strong signal, but I.E. or the mail client software can not make
connection with the Internet for some reason. I really need to get
this resolved so I can go on-line and get this Windows XP installation
validated.

Gordon

Antares 531 wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:27:39 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0400, "Daave"
wrote:

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done,
of course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista
mentioned here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Daave, I see what you're saying, but I am still a bit confused,
here. I checked the BIOS and the 500 GB hard drive was correctly
shown there. Maybe doesn't extend to the Windows XP ability to
recognize this same hard drive.

I assume you were intending to reply to smlunatick instead of me,
Gordon! This is what he posted:

This seems to indicate that your XP install CD had troubles accessing
the "large" 500GB hard drive correctly. It also means that you may
have had the original XP version which was limited to 128GB hard
drive size. Microsoft had fixed this issue with SP1 which is
automatically included in SP3,

If you installed with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level, the 128GB
limit shouldn't be in effect. However, if you were to install with XP
"Gold" (no SP), there would be trouble, yes.

Yes, I had the original CD that did not have any SPs. I guess this
would be what you are calling XP "Gold."

I did the second install with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level and
this corrected all the problems.

I guess where I was misunderstanding you was that the BIOS could read
the 500 GB drive and show it as being in good working order but
Windows could not, until the slipstreamed version was installed. But,
the error message I kept getting seemed to indicate that the problem
was a PCI related incongruence in that the stop information showed the
PCI.SYS address was the problem.

I'm still not out in the clear. I can't get the new computer to
communicate through our home Wi-Fi setup. It connects and shows a
strong signal, but I.E. or the mail client software can not make
connection with the Internet for some reason. I really need to get
this resolved so I can go on-line and get this Windows XP installation
validated.

First of all, although it is certainly convenient, online activation
isn't the only game in town. You will also be able to activate via the
telephone; the call should be no longer than five minutes. Just follow
the prompts on the screen.

You can also temporarily connect your PC to your router (or modem) --
that is, a wired, not wireless connection -- and activate over the
Internet that way.

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

Antares 531 wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:27:39 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0400, "Daave"
wrote:

peter wrote:
Win 7 will install with an upgrade version and will ask you to
install the XP CD to verify that you are eligible for upgrade.
XP does not need to be installed for this to happen.

Actually, Peter, that is incorrect (that is how it used to be done,
of course). Please see these pages:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7

http://community.winsupersite.com:80...k-exactly.aspx

We're still waiting to see if the method that worked for Vista
mentioned here will also work for Windows 7:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

If it does, then your statement can be correct. :-)

Daave, I see what you're saying, but I am still a bit confused,
here. I checked the BIOS and the 500 GB hard drive was correctly
shown there. Maybe doesn't extend to the Windows XP ability to
recognize this same hard drive.

I assume you were intending to reply to smlunatick instead of me,
Gordon! This is what he posted:

This seems to indicate that your XP install CD had troubles accessing
the "large" 500GB hard drive correctly. It also means that you may
have had the original XP version which was limited to 128GB hard
drive size. Microsoft had fixed this issue with SP1 which is
automatically included in SP3,

If you installed with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level, the 128GB
limit shouldn't be in effect. However, if you were to install with XP
"Gold" (no SP), there would be trouble, yes.

Yes, I had the original CD that did not have any SPs. I guess this
would be what you are calling XP "Gold."

I did the second install with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level and
this corrected all the problems.

I guess where I was misunderstanding you was that the BIOS could read
the 500 GB drive and show it as being in good working order but
Windows could not, until the slipstreamed version was installed. But,
the error message I kept getting seemed to indicate that the problem
was a PCI related incongruence in that the stop information showed the
PCI.SYS address was the problem.

I'm still not out in the clear. I can't get the new computer to
communicate through our home Wi-Fi setup. It connects and shows a
strong signal, but I.E. or the mail client software can not make
connection with the Internet for some reason. I really need to get
this resolved so I can go on-line and get this Windows XP installation
validated.

First of all, although it is certainly convenient, online activation
isn't the only game in town. You will also be able to activate via the
telephone; the call should be no longer than five minutes. Just follow
the prompts on the screen.

You can also temporarily connect your PC to your router (or modem) --
that is, a wired, not wireless connection -- and activate over the
Internet that way.

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:45 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
Snip

Yes, I had the original CD that did not have any SPs. I guess this
would be what you are calling XP "Gold."

I did the second install with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level and
this corrected all the problems.

I guess where I was misunderstanding you was that the BIOS could read
the 500 GB drive and show it as being in good working order but
Windows could not, until the slipstreamed version was installed. But,
the error message I kept getting seemed to indicate that the problem
was a PCI related incongruence in that the stop information showed the
PCI.SYS address was the problem.

I'm still not out in the clear. I can't get the new computer to
communicate through our home Wi-Fi setup. It connects and shows a
strong signal, but I.E. or the mail client software can not make
connection with the Internet for some reason. I really need to get
this resolved so I can go on-line and get this Windows XP installation
validated.

First of all, although it is certainly convenient, online activation
isn't the only game in town. You will also be able to activate via the
telephone; the call should be no longer than five minutes. Just follow
the prompts on the screen.

The problem with this is that my wife and I are both severely hearing
impaired and can not use a voice phone very effectively. We use our
phone for our Internet services and my wife uses it for some TTY
communications.

You can also temporarily connect your PC to your router (or modem) --
that is, a wired, not wireless connection -- and activate over the
Internet that way.

This is where I am, presently. I hooked it to the router, using a Cat
5 cable, like my other desktop computer uses. It connects and shows a
very good signal strength but that is as far as I can get it to go.

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

I did run the ASUS motherboard install CD and installed the drivers.
When I open My Computer Manage and look at the entries, everything
looks fine. That is, there are no yellow question marks or red X
marks.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

My ActionTEC GT704-WG Wi-Fi setup works very well for my other
desktop, my laptop and my wife's desktop. My other desktop is set as
the manager and connects by means of a Cat 5 LAN cable. My laptop and
my wife's desktop computers connect by their Wi-Fi cards. The system
works very well for all except my new computer.

The new computer does connect and the icon at the bottom right of the
screen indicates a very strong high capacity connection. But, that
icon shows only one tiny image of a computer screen whereas the other
computers show a double image of a tiny computer screen, one tucked
almost behind the other, and both blinking when data is being
transferred.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over the
new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an error
message saying that this site is not available...check Internet
connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software and try to
so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating that there is no
connection to my e-mail service provider.

Gordon

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:45 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
Snip

Yes, I had the original CD that did not have any SPs. I guess this
would be what you are calling XP "Gold."

I did the second install with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level and
this corrected all the problems.

I guess where I was misunderstanding you was that the BIOS could read
the 500 GB drive and show it as being in good working order but
Windows could not, until the slipstreamed version was installed. But,
the error message I kept getting seemed to indicate that the problem
was a PCI related incongruence in that the stop information showed the
PCI.SYS address was the problem.

I'm still not out in the clear. I can't get the new computer to
communicate through our home Wi-Fi setup. It connects and shows a
strong signal, but I.E. or the mail client software can not make
connection with the Internet for some reason. I really need to get
this resolved so I can go on-line and get this Windows XP installation
validated.

First of all, although it is certainly convenient, online activation
isn't the only game in town. You will also be able to activate via the
telephone; the call should be no longer than five minutes. Just follow
the prompts on the screen.

The problem with this is that my wife and I are both severely hearing
impaired and can not use a voice phone very effectively. We use our
phone for our Internet services and my wife uses it for some TTY
communications.

You can also temporarily connect your PC to your router (or modem) --
that is, a wired, not wireless connection -- and activate over the
Internet that way.

This is where I am, presently. I hooked it to the router, using a Cat
5 cable, like my other desktop computer uses. It connects and shows a
very good signal strength but that is as far as I can get it to go.

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

I did run the ASUS motherboard install CD and installed the drivers.
When I open My Computer Manage and look at the entries, everything
looks fine. That is, there are no yellow question marks or red X
marks.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

My ActionTEC GT704-WG Wi-Fi setup works very well for my other
desktop, my laptop and my wife's desktop. My other desktop is set as
the manager and connects by means of a Cat 5 LAN cable. My laptop and
my wife's desktop computers connect by their Wi-Fi cards. The system
works very well for all except my new computer.

The new computer does connect and the icon at the bottom right of the
screen indicates a very strong high capacity connection. But, that
icon shows only one tiny image of a computer screen whereas the other
computers show a double image of a tiny computer screen, one tucked
almost behind the other, and both blinking when data is being
transferred.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over the
new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an error
message saying that this site is not available...check Internet
connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software and try to
so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating that there is no
connection to my e-mail service provider.

Gordon

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:45 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
Snip

Yes, I had the original CD that did not have any SPs. I guess this
would be what you are calling XP "Gold."

I did the second install with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level and
this corrected all the problems.

I guess where I was misunderstanding you was that the BIOS could
read the 500 GB drive and show it as being in good working order but
Windows could not, until the slipstreamed version was installed.
But, the error message I kept getting seemed to indicate that the
problem was a PCI related incongruence in that the stop information
showed the PCI.SYS address was the problem.

I'm still not out in the clear. I can't get the new computer to
communicate through our home Wi-Fi setup. It connects and shows a
strong signal, but I.E. or the mail client software can not make
connection with the Internet for some reason. I really need to get
this resolved so I can go on-line and get this Windows XP
installation validated.

First of all, although it is certainly convenient, online activation
isn't the only game in town. You will also be able to activate via
the telephone; the call should be no longer than five minutes. Just
follow the prompts on the screen.

The problem with this is that my wife and I are both severely hearing
impaired and can not use a voice phone very effectively. We use our
phone for our Internet services and my wife uses it for some TTY
communications.

You can also temporarily connect your PC to your router (or modem) --
that is, a wired, not wireless connection -- and activate over the
Internet that way.

This is where I am, presently. I hooked it to the router, using a Cat
5 cable, like my other desktop computer uses. It connects and shows a
very good signal strength but that is as far as I can get it to go.

Good signal strength? I don't follow. Wouldn't that apply to a wireless
connection?

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

I did run the ASUS motherboard install CD and installed the drivers.
When I open My Computer Manage and look at the entries, everything
looks fine. That is, there are no yellow question marks or red X
marks.

You needed to install the drivers for your network card. Open Device
Manager and expand "Network adapters." What do you see? For reference,
what I see is:

1394 Net Adapter
Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

The bottom entry is for my network card.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

My ActionTEC GT704-WG Wi-Fi setup works very well for my other
desktop, my laptop and my wife's desktop.

That wasn't my point.

What I am saying is that as time goes on, there will be fewer and fewer
XP drivers available for PC hardware components (because XP is slowly
but surely being phased out). Your laptop and your wife's desktop are
older PCs, so of course the Wi-Fi setup works fine -- the XP drivers for
your wireless cards obviously exist!. I'm talking about the newer PCs
(it's a mixed bag) and future PCs (again, as time goes on, fewer and
fewer of the PCs will be able to run XP because XP-specific drivers for
the PC's hardware components will simply not exist).

My other desktop is set as
the manager and connects by means of a Cat 5 LAN cable. My laptop and
my wife's desktop computers connect by their Wi-Fi cards. The system
works very well for all except my new computer.

That is why I asked about drivers. And if the XP drivers do exist and if
they are all installed, it's just a matter of settings. Perhaps the PC
needs to be rebooted. Perhaps the wireless router needs to be rebooted.
Perhaps you need to use your Web browser to access the settings of your
router and alter them. Perhaps you need to use XP to enter specific
information. This would entail a different thread if you can't figure it
out on your own.

The new computer does connect and the icon at the bottom right of the
screen indicates a very strong high capacity connection.

Please define. What is the icon? What exactly do you see on the screen?

But, that
icon shows only one tiny image of a computer screen whereas the other
computers show a double image of a tiny computer screen, one tucked
almost behind the other, and both blinking when data is being
transferred.

That second icon (the one with two screens) is for your regular wired
connection (unless you see radio waves to its right). Please clarify
what you see.

If it is indeed the wired connection, you should be able click it to
bring up Status. In this new window, you can click Properties. Then
scroll down to the last item: Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and
double-click it. If you're using your router's settings, "Obtain an IP
address automatically" should be selected. But if you are using XP to
manually obtain an IP address, you need to configure these values with
the information your ISP gave you.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired to
your router, those same settings should work for this new PC, provided
you have installed the XP driver for the network card and provided you
are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over the
new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an error
message saying that this site is not available...check Internet
connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software and try to
so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating that there is no
connection to my e-mail service provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in Control
Panel?

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:45 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
Snip

Yes, I had the original CD that did not have any SPs. I guess this
would be what you are calling XP "Gold."

I did the second install with a slipstreamed CD at the SP3 level and
this corrected all the problems.

I guess where I was misunderstanding you was that the BIOS could
read the 500 GB drive and show it as being in good working order but
Windows could not, until the slipstreamed version was installed.
But, the error message I kept getting seemed to indicate that the
problem was a PCI related incongruence in that the stop information
showed the PCI.SYS address was the problem.

I'm still not out in the clear. I can't get the new computer to
communicate through our home Wi-Fi setup. It connects and shows a
strong signal, but I.E. or the mail client software can not make
connection with the Internet for some reason. I really need to get
this resolved so I can go on-line and get this Windows XP
installation validated.

First of all, although it is certainly convenient, online activation
isn't the only game in town. You will also be able to activate via
the telephone; the call should be no longer than five minutes. Just
follow the prompts on the screen.

The problem with this is that my wife and I are both severely hearing
impaired and can not use a voice phone very effectively. We use our
phone for our Internet services and my wife uses it for some TTY
communications.

You can also temporarily connect your PC to your router (or modem) --
that is, a wired, not wireless connection -- and activate over the
Internet that way.

This is where I am, presently. I hooked it to the router, using a Cat
5 cable, like my other desktop computer uses. It connects and shows a
very good signal strength but that is as far as I can get it to go.

Good signal strength? I don't follow. Wouldn't that apply to a wireless
connection?

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

I did run the ASUS motherboard install CD and installed the drivers.
When I open My Computer Manage and look at the entries, everything
looks fine. That is, there are no yellow question marks or red X
marks.

You needed to install the drivers for your network card. Open Device
Manager and expand "Network adapters." What do you see? For reference,
what I see is:

1394 Net Adapter
Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

The bottom entry is for my network card.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

My ActionTEC GT704-WG Wi-Fi setup works very well for my other
desktop, my laptop and my wife's desktop.

That wasn't my point.

What I am saying is that as time goes on, there will be fewer and fewer
XP drivers available for PC hardware components (because XP is slowly
but surely being phased out). Your laptop and your wife's desktop are
older PCs, so of course the Wi-Fi setup works fine -- the XP drivers for
your wireless cards obviously exist!. I'm talking about the newer PCs
(it's a mixed bag) and future PCs (again, as time goes on, fewer and
fewer of the PCs will be able to run XP because XP-specific drivers for
the PC's hardware components will simply not exist).

My other desktop is set as
the manager and connects by means of a Cat 5 LAN cable. My laptop and
my wife's desktop computers connect by their Wi-Fi cards. The system
works very well for all except my new computer.

That is why I asked about drivers. And if the XP drivers do exist and if
they are all installed, it's just a matter of settings. Perhaps the PC
needs to be rebooted. Perhaps the wireless router needs to be rebooted.
Perhaps you need to use your Web browser to access the settings of your
router and alter them. Perhaps you need to use XP to enter specific
information. This would entail a different thread if you can't figure it
out on your own.

The new computer does connect and the icon at the bottom right of the
screen indicates a very strong high capacity connection.

Please define. What is the icon? What exactly do you see on the screen?

But, that
icon shows only one tiny image of a computer screen whereas the other
computers show a double image of a tiny computer screen, one tucked
almost behind the other, and both blinking when data is being
transferred.

That second icon (the one with two screens) is for your regular wired
connection (unless you see radio waves to its right). Please clarify
what you see.

If it is indeed the wired connection, you should be able click it to
bring up Status. In this new window, you can click Properties. Then
scroll down to the last item: Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and
double-click it. If you're using your router's settings, "Obtain an IP
address automatically" should be selected. But if you are using XP to
manually obtain an IP address, you need to configure these values with
the information your ISP gave you.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired to
your router, those same settings should work for this new PC, provided
you have installed the XP driver for the network card and provided you
are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over the
new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an error
message saying that this site is not available...check Internet
connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software and try to
so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating that there is no
connection to my e-mail service provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in Control
Panel?

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:45 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Snip

This is where I am, presently. I hooked it to the router, using a Cat
5 cable, like my other desktop computer uses. It connects and shows a
very good signal strength but that is as far as I can get it to go.

Good signal strength? I don't follow. Wouldn't that apply to a wireless
connection?

I just checked again and this kind of information shows up on all the
computers...the wireless and the LAN connected ones.

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

I did run the ASUS motherboard install CD and installed the drivers.
When I open My Computer Manage and look at the entries, everything
looks fine. That is, there are no yellow question marks or red X
marks.

You needed to install the drivers for your network card. Open Device
Manager and expand "Network adapters." What do you see? For reference,
what I see is:

1394 Net Adapter
Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

I see the same items plus a third one that reads:
Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller

The bottom entry is for my network card.

I don't have a network card installed. This ASUS motherboard has an
onboard network adapter with two CAT 5 connection sockets.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

My ActionTEC GT704-WG Wi-Fi setup works very well for my other
desktop, my laptop and my wife's desktop.

That wasn't my point.

What I am saying is that as time goes on, there will be fewer and fewer
XP drivers available for PC hardware components (because XP is slowly
but surely being phased out). Your laptop and your wife's desktop are
older PCs, so of course the Wi-Fi setup works fine -- the XP drivers for
your wireless cards obviously exist!. I'm talking about the newer PCs
(it's a mixed bag) and future PCs (again, as time goes on, fewer and
fewer of the PCs will be able to run XP because XP-specific drivers for
the PC's hardware components will simply not exist).

I was thinking that since all our household computers run XP and
connect to the same Wi-Fi system the drivers would be the same, but I
suppose the individual computers' wireless cards would be different.

I would think that the AZUS motherboard setup CD that provided the
drivers for its onboard components would be up to date and would have
provided the necessary driver(s) for the onboard LAN Wi-Fi connection.

My other desktop is set as
the manager and connects by means of a Cat 5 LAN cable. My laptop and
my wife's desktop computers connect by their Wi-Fi cards. The system
works very well for all except my new computer.

That is why I asked about drivers. And if the XP drivers do exist and if
they are all installed, it's just a matter of settings. Perhaps the PC
needs to be rebooted. Perhaps the wireless router needs to be rebooted.
Perhaps you need to use your Web browser to access the settings of your
router and alter them. Perhaps you need to use XP to enter specific
information. This would entail a different thread if you can't figure it
out on your own.

I think you are right in that it is a matter of settings, but I
haven't been able to figure out what settings need changed or
adjusted.

When I double click the sys tray icon I get the normal Local Area
Connection Status window and it shows:

Connection
Status: Connected
Duration: 00:28:43
Speed: 400.0 Mbps

Activity
Sent: 0 Packets
Received: 0 Packets

This indicates to me that the connection to the Wi-Fi access point is
okay but for some reason the computer can not get beyond the access
point, to the router then to the Internet. But, what has it balked???

The new computer does connect and the icon at the bottom right of the
screen indicates a very strong high capacity connection.

Please define. What is the icon? What exactly do you see on the screen?

I'm talking about the little double image of a computer monitor in the
sys tray that normally flashes on and off when signals are being sent
or received.

But, that
icon shows only one tiny image of a computer screen whereas the other
computers show a double image of a tiny computer screen, one tucked
almost behind the other, and both blinking when data is being
transferred.

That second icon (the one with two screens) is for your regular wired
connection (unless you see radio waves to its right). Please clarify
what you see.

This is in agreement with the icon I see on my other desktop. It is a
double image of a computer screen and it does not have the radio
waves.

The same icon on my new computer is also a double image of a computer
screen, now. It was a single image at first, but has changed for some
reason. There are no radio waves. This is a LAN wired connection to
the router.

If it is indeed the wired connection, you should be able click it to
bring up Status. In this new window, you can click Properties. Then
scroll down to the last item: Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and
double-click it. If you're using your router's settings, "Obtain an IP
address automatically" should be selected. But if you are using XP to
manually obtain an IP address, you need to configure these values with
the information your ISP gave you.

We may be getting close to the core of the problem, here. My other
desktop, the one that manages the Wi-Fi setup shows "Obtain an IP
address automatically"

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to go
back to the above values before it would re-connect.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired to
your router, those same settings should work for this new PC, provided
you have installed the XP driver for the network card and provided you
are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over the
new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an error
message saying that this site is not available...check Internet
connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software and try to
so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating that there is no
connection to my e-mail service provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in Control
Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected 1394
Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System




Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:45 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Snip

This is where I am, presently. I hooked it to the router, using a Cat
5 cable, like my other desktop computer uses. It connects and shows a
very good signal strength but that is as far as I can get it to go.

Good signal strength? I don't follow. Wouldn't that apply to a wireless
connection?

I just checked again and this kind of information shows up on all the
computers...the wireless and the LAN connected ones.

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

I did run the ASUS motherboard install CD and installed the drivers.
When I open My Computer Manage and look at the entries, everything
looks fine. That is, there are no yellow question marks or red X
marks.

You needed to install the drivers for your network card. Open Device
Manager and expand "Network adapters." What do you see? For reference,
what I see is:

1394 Net Adapter
Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

I see the same items plus a third one that reads:
Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller

The bottom entry is for my network card.

I don't have a network card installed. This ASUS motherboard has an
onboard network adapter with two CAT 5 connection sockets.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

My ActionTEC GT704-WG Wi-Fi setup works very well for my other
desktop, my laptop and my wife's desktop.

That wasn't my point.

What I am saying is that as time goes on, there will be fewer and fewer
XP drivers available for PC hardware components (because XP is slowly
but surely being phased out). Your laptop and your wife's desktop are
older PCs, so of course the Wi-Fi setup works fine -- the XP drivers for
your wireless cards obviously exist!. I'm talking about the newer PCs
(it's a mixed bag) and future PCs (again, as time goes on, fewer and
fewer of the PCs will be able to run XP because XP-specific drivers for
the PC's hardware components will simply not exist).

I was thinking that since all our household computers run XP and
connect to the same Wi-Fi system the drivers would be the same, but I
suppose the individual computers' wireless cards would be different.

I would think that the AZUS motherboard setup CD that provided the
drivers for its onboard components would be up to date and would have
provided the necessary driver(s) for the onboard LAN Wi-Fi connection.

My other desktop is set as
the manager and connects by means of a Cat 5 LAN cable. My laptop and
my wife's desktop computers connect by their Wi-Fi cards. The system
works very well for all except my new computer.

That is why I asked about drivers. And if the XP drivers do exist and if
they are all installed, it's just a matter of settings. Perhaps the PC
needs to be rebooted. Perhaps the wireless router needs to be rebooted.
Perhaps you need to use your Web browser to access the settings of your
router and alter them. Perhaps you need to use XP to enter specific
information. This would entail a different thread if you can't figure it
out on your own.

I think you are right in that it is a matter of settings, but I
haven't been able to figure out what settings need changed or
adjusted.

When I double click the sys tray icon I get the normal Local Area
Connection Status window and it shows:

Connection
Status: Connected
Duration: 00:28:43
Speed: 400.0 Mbps

Activity
Sent: 0 Packets
Received: 0 Packets

This indicates to me that the connection to the Wi-Fi access point is
okay but for some reason the computer can not get beyond the access
point, to the router then to the Internet. But, what has it balked???

The new computer does connect and the icon at the bottom right of the
screen indicates a very strong high capacity connection.

Please define. What is the icon? What exactly do you see on the screen?

I'm talking about the little double image of a computer monitor in the
sys tray that normally flashes on and off when signals are being sent
or received.

But, that
icon shows only one tiny image of a computer screen whereas the other
computers show a double image of a tiny computer screen, one tucked
almost behind the other, and both blinking when data is being
transferred.

That second icon (the one with two screens) is for your regular wired
connection (unless you see radio waves to its right). Please clarify
what you see.

This is in agreement with the icon I see on my other desktop. It is a
double image of a computer screen and it does not have the radio
waves.

The same icon on my new computer is also a double image of a computer
screen, now. It was a single image at first, but has changed for some
reason. There are no radio waves. This is a LAN wired connection to
the router.

If it is indeed the wired connection, you should be able click it to
bring up Status. In this new window, you can click Properties. Then
scroll down to the last item: Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and
double-click it. If you're using your router's settings, "Obtain an IP
address automatically" should be selected. But if you are using XP to
manually obtain an IP address, you need to configure these values with
the information your ISP gave you.

We may be getting close to the core of the problem, here. My other
desktop, the one that manages the Wi-Fi setup shows "Obtain an IP
address automatically"

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to go
back to the above values before it would re-connect.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired to
your router, those same settings should work for this new PC, provided
you have installed the XP driver for the network card and provided you
are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over the
new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an error
message saying that this site is not available...check Internet
connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software and try to
so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating that there is no
connection to my e-mail service provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in Control
Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected 1394
Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System




Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:45 -0400, "Daave"
wrote:

Snip

This is where I am, presently. I hooked it to the router, using a
Cat 5 cable, like my other desktop computer uses. It connects and
shows a very good signal strength but that is as far as I can get
it to go.

Good signal strength? I don't follow. Wouldn't that apply to a
wireless connection?

I just checked again and this kind of information shows up on all the
computers...the wireless and the LAN connected ones.

Yes, I know. :-)

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

I did run the ASUS motherboard install CD and installed the drivers.
When I open My Computer Manage and look at the entries, everything
looks fine. That is, there are no yellow question marks or red X
marks.

You needed to install the drivers for your network card. Open Device
Manager and expand "Network adapters." What do you see? For
reference, what I see is:

1394 Net Adapter
Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

I see the same items plus a third one that reads:
Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller

The bottom entry is for my network card.

I don't have a network card installed. This ASUS motherboard has an
onboard network adapter with two CAT 5 connection sockets.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

My ActionTEC GT704-WG Wi-Fi setup works very well for my other
desktop, my laptop and my wife's desktop.

That wasn't my point.

What I am saying is that as time goes on, there will be fewer and
fewer XP drivers available for PC hardware components (because XP is
slowly but surely being phased out). Your laptop and your wife's
desktop are older PCs, so of course the Wi-Fi setup works fine --
the XP drivers for your wireless cards obviously exist!. I'm talking
about the newer PCs (it's a mixed bag) and future PCs (again, as
time goes on, fewer and fewer of the PCs will be able to run XP
because XP-specific drivers for the PC's hardware components will
simply not exist).

I was thinking that since all our household computers run XP and
connect to the same Wi-Fi system the drivers would be the same, but I
suppose the individual computers' wireless cards would be different.

I would think that the AZUS motherboard setup CD that provided the
drivers for its onboard components would be up to date and would have
provided the necessary driver(s) for the onboard LAN Wi-Fi connection.

My other desktop is set as
the manager and connects by means of a Cat 5 LAN cable. My laptop
and my wife's desktop computers connect by their Wi-Fi cards. The
system works very well for all except my new computer.

That is why I asked about drivers. And if the XP drivers do exist
and if they are all installed, it's just a matter of settings.
Perhaps the PC needs to be rebooted. Perhaps the wireless router
needs to be rebooted. Perhaps you need to use your Web browser to
access the settings of your router and alter them. Perhaps you need
to use XP to enter specific information. This would entail a
different thread if you can't figure it out on your own.

I think you are right in that it is a matter of settings, but I
haven't been able to figure out what settings need changed or
adjusted.

When I double click the sys tray icon I get the normal Local Area
Connection Status window and it shows:

Connection
Status: Connected
Duration: 00:28:43
Speed: 400.0 Mbps

Activity
Sent: 0 Packets
Received: 0 Packets

This indicates to me that the connection to the Wi-Fi access point is
okay but for some reason the computer can not get beyond the access
point, to the router then to the Internet. But, what has it balked???

The new computer does connect and the icon at the bottom right of
the screen indicates a very strong high capacity connection.

Please define. What is the icon? What exactly do you see on the
screen?

I'm talking about the little double image of a computer monitor in the
sys tray that normally flashes on and off when signals are being sent
or received.

But, that
icon shows only one tiny image of a computer screen whereas the
other computers show a double image of a tiny computer screen, one
tucked almost behind the other, and both blinking when data is being
transferred.

That second icon (the one with two screens) is for your regular wired
connection (unless you see radio waves to its right). Please clarify
what you see.

This is in agreement with the icon I see on my other desktop. It is a
double image of a computer screen and it does not have the radio
waves.

The same icon on my new computer is also a double image of a computer
screen, now. It was a single image at first, but has changed for some
reason. There are no radio waves. This is a LAN wired connection to
the router.

If it is indeed the wired connection, you should be able click it to
bring up Status. In this new window, you can click Properties. Then
scroll down to the last item: Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and
double-click it. If you're using your router's settings, "Obtain an
IP address automatically" should be selected. But if you are using
XP to manually obtain an IP address, you need to configure these
values with the information your ISP gave you.

We may be getting close to the core of the problem, here. My other
desktop, the one that manages the Wi-Fi setup shows "Obtain an IP
address automatically"

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to go
back to the above values before it would re-connect.

As far as your wireless connection goes (and wired, too, if you choose
to use that), you need to make sure your settings are correct. That
depends on the information your ISP gave you as well as the information
from your router's User Guide. You have a choice of assigning specific
IP addresses to your networked PCs or you can have the router assign
these addresses automatically.

Again, if you still need help with that, I urge you to start a new
thread. Feel free to include a link to this one for reference.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired
to your router, those same settings should work for this new PC,
provided you have installed the XP driver for the network card and
provided you are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over
the new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an
error message saying that this site is not available...check
Internet connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software
and try to so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating
that there is no connection to my e-mail service provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected 1394
Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System

PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

I think it's important to do one thing at a time. If activating over the
telephone is too difficult because of your hearing impairments, I can
understand wanting to activate over the Net.

And if there are some settings for your WiFi that you haven't worked out
yet, put that project on the back burner and instead concentrate on
using a wired connection for the time being. So, don't worry about
things like signal strength! In fact, you can even temporarily disable
your WiFi connection if you wish.

Compare the settings above with the settings of the PC that *is* working
when it is connected to the Net via Ethernet cable. And make sure the
cable is plugged in!!! The important part of this puzzle is:

Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

It needs to be enabled. And there needs to be a physical connection. :-)
And the TCP/IP settings need to be correct.

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:45 -0400, "Daave"
wrote:

Snip

This is where I am, presently. I hooked it to the router, using a
Cat 5 cable, like my other desktop computer uses. It connects and
shows a very good signal strength but that is as far as I can get
it to go.

Good signal strength? I don't follow. Wouldn't that apply to a
wireless connection?

I just checked again and this kind of information shows up on all the
computers...the wireless and the LAN connected ones.

Yes, I know. :-)

Did you install all the necessary drivers? If so, there are some
wireless network settings that might need to made.

I did run the ASUS motherboard install CD and installed the drivers.
When I open My Computer Manage and look at the entries, everything
looks fine. That is, there are no yellow question marks or red X
marks.

You needed to install the drivers for your network card. Open Device
Manager and expand "Network adapters." What do you see? For
reference, what I see is:

1394 Net Adapter
Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

I see the same items plus a third one that reads:
Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller

The bottom entry is for my network card.

I don't have a network card installed. This ASUS motherboard has an
onboard network adapter with two CAT 5 connection sockets.

Actually, are there XP drivers available for all your hardware
components? As time goes on, these are being harder to come by!

My ActionTEC GT704-WG Wi-Fi setup works very well for my other
desktop, my laptop and my wife's desktop.

That wasn't my point.

What I am saying is that as time goes on, there will be fewer and
fewer XP drivers available for PC hardware components (because XP is
slowly but surely being phased out). Your laptop and your wife's
desktop are older PCs, so of course the Wi-Fi setup works fine --
the XP drivers for your wireless cards obviously exist!. I'm talking
about the newer PCs (it's a mixed bag) and future PCs (again, as
time goes on, fewer and fewer of the PCs will be able to run XP
because XP-specific drivers for the PC's hardware components will
simply not exist).

I was thinking that since all our household computers run XP and
connect to the same Wi-Fi system the drivers would be the same, but I
suppose the individual computers' wireless cards would be different.

I would think that the AZUS motherboard setup CD that provided the
drivers for its onboard components would be up to date and would have
provided the necessary driver(s) for the onboard LAN Wi-Fi connection.

My other desktop is set as
the manager and connects by means of a Cat 5 LAN cable. My laptop
and my wife's desktop computers connect by their Wi-Fi cards. The
system works very well for all except my new computer.

That is why I asked about drivers. And if the XP drivers do exist
and if they are all installed, it's just a matter of settings.
Perhaps the PC needs to be rebooted. Perhaps the wireless router
needs to be rebooted. Perhaps you need to use your Web browser to
access the settings of your router and alter them. Perhaps you need
to use XP to enter specific information. This would entail a
different thread if you can't figure it out on your own.

I think you are right in that it is a matter of settings, but I
haven't been able to figure out what settings need changed or
adjusted.

When I double click the sys tray icon I get the normal Local Area
Connection Status window and it shows:

Connection
Status: Connected
Duration: 00:28:43
Speed: 400.0 Mbps

Activity
Sent: 0 Packets
Received: 0 Packets

This indicates to me that the connection to the Wi-Fi access point is
okay but for some reason the computer can not get beyond the access
point, to the router then to the Internet. But, what has it balked???

The new computer does connect and the icon at the bottom right of
the screen indicates a very strong high capacity connection.

Please define. What is the icon? What exactly do you see on the
screen?

I'm talking about the little double image of a computer monitor in the
sys tray that normally flashes on and off when signals are being sent
or received.

But, that
icon shows only one tiny image of a computer screen whereas the
other computers show a double image of a tiny computer screen, one
tucked almost behind the other, and both blinking when data is being
transferred.

That second icon (the one with two screens) is for your regular wired
connection (unless you see radio waves to its right). Please clarify
what you see.

This is in agreement with the icon I see on my other desktop. It is a
double image of a computer screen and it does not have the radio
waves.

The same icon on my new computer is also a double image of a computer
screen, now. It was a single image at first, but has changed for some
reason. There are no radio waves. This is a LAN wired connection to
the router.

If it is indeed the wired connection, you should be able click it to
bring up Status. In this new window, you can click Properties. Then
scroll down to the last item: Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and
double-click it. If you're using your router's settings, "Obtain an
IP address automatically" should be selected. But if you are using
XP to manually obtain an IP address, you need to configure these
values with the information your ISP gave you.

We may be getting close to the core of the problem, here. My other
desktop, the one that manages the Wi-Fi setup shows "Obtain an IP
address automatically"

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to go
back to the above values before it would re-connect.

As far as your wireless connection goes (and wired, too, if you choose
to use that), you need to make sure your settings are correct. That
depends on the information your ISP gave you as well as the information
from your router's User Guide. You have a choice of assigning specific
IP addresses to your networked PCs or you can have the router assign
these addresses automatically.

Again, if you still need help with that, I urge you to start a new
thread. Feel free to include a link to this one for reference.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired
to your router, those same settings should work for this new PC,
provided you have installed the XP driver for the network card and
provided you are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over
the new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an
error message saying that this site is not available...check
Internet connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software
and try to so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating
that there is no connection to my e-mail service provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected 1394
Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System

PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

I think it's important to do one thing at a time. If activating over the
telephone is too difficult because of your hearing impairments, I can
understand wanting to activate over the Net.

And if there are some settings for your WiFi that you haven't worked out
yet, put that project on the back burner and instead concentrate on
using a wired connection for the time being. So, don't worry about
things like signal strength! In fact, you can even temporarily disable
your WiFi connection if you wish.

Compare the settings above with the settings of the PC that *is* working
when it is connected to the Net via Ethernet cable. And make sure the
cable is plugged in!!! The important part of this puzzle is:

Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

It needs to be enabled. And there needs to be a physical connection. :-)
And the TCP/IP settings need to be correct.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave" wrote:
Snip

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I've tried this both ways...keying in the IP Address, Subnet Mask or
selecting Automatic. There doesn't seem to be any difference in the
way things work out.

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to go
back to the above values before it would re-connect.

As far as your wireless connection goes (and wired, too, if you choose
to use that), you need to make sure your settings are correct. That
depends on the information your ISP gave you as well as the information
from your router's User Guide. You have a choice of assigning specific
IP addresses to your networked PCs or you can have the router assign
these addresses automatically.

Again, if you still need help with that, I urge you to start a new
thread. Feel free to include a link to this one for reference.

I will start a new thread but I have one more cluster of questions
that ties tightly to this thread.

My new computer's Control Panel . Network Connections window shows
three connections.

1394 Net Adapter
Realtec PCIe GBE Family Controller
Realtec RTL 8189/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

When I try to do something on-line, the Local Area Connection
Properties window shows some send and receive packet activity for the
Realtec PCIe connection, but this isn't the one that seems to be
affiliated with the sys tray icon. When I double click the sys tray
icon I get the same kind of Local Area Connection Properties window
but it always shows 0 packets sent and received.

I must have something cross connected here but I cannot figure out
what it is. It looks like any attempts to communicate with the
Internet are misdirected onto the LAN network provisions for computer
to computer linking, but I never intended to set it up that way.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired
to your router, those same settings should work for this new PC,
provided you have installed the XP driver for the network card and
provided you are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over
the new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an
error message saying that this site is not available...check
Internet connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software
and try to so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating
that there is no connection to my e-mail service provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected 1394
Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System

PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Yes, there is a Cat 5 network cable plugged between the LAN (RJ-45)
Port 1 on the rear panel connector setup on the rear of the AZUX
motherboard, and one of the Cat 5 sockets on the back of the Actontec
DSL Gateway.

I'm now wondering if these two ports on the AZUS motherboard are only
for LAN computer-to-computer home network setup. Maybe I do need an
add in card to connect from the new computer to the Actiontec DSL
Gateway.


I think it's important to do one thing at a time. If activating over the
telephone is too difficult because of your hearing impairments, I can
understand wanting to activate over the Net.

And if there are some settings for your WiFi that you haven't worked out
yet, put that project on the back burner and instead concentrate on
using a wired connection for the time being. So, don't worry about
things like signal strength! In fact, you can even temporarily disable
your WiFi connection if you wish.

Compare the settings above with the settings of the PC that *is* working
when it is connected to the Net via Ethernet cable. And make sure the
cable is plugged in!!! The important part of this puzzle is:

I've checked and re-checked this and it all seems to be in order.
Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

It needs to be enabled. And there needs to be a physical connection. :-)
And the TCP/IP settings need to be correct.

It is enabled, but I'm not clear as to which of the Network
Connections shown in the Control Panel Network Connections window is
for Internet connection via the Actiontec DSL Gateway and which is/are
for home network between local computers. Can you set me straight on
this?