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  #31  
Old October 16th 09, 11:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Antares 531[_2_]
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Default Win XP install problems

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave" wrote:
Snip

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I've tried this both ways...keying in the IP Address, Subnet Mask or
selecting Automatic. There doesn't seem to be any difference in the
way things work out.

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to go
back to the above values before it would re-connect.


As far as your wireless connection goes (and wired, too, if you choose
to use that), you need to make sure your settings are correct. That
depends on the information your ISP gave you as well as the information
from your router's User Guide. You have a choice of assigning specific
IP addresses to your networked PCs or you can have the router assign
these addresses automatically.

Again, if you still need help with that, I urge you to start a new
thread. Feel free to include a link to this one for reference.

I will start a new thread but I have one more cluster of questions
that ties tightly to this thread.

My new computer's Control Panel . Network Connections window shows
three connections.

1394 Net Adapter
Realtec PCIe GBE Family Controller
Realtec RTL 8189/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

When I try to do something on-line, the Local Area Connection
Properties window shows some send and receive packet activity for the
Realtec PCIe connection, but this isn't the one that seems to be
affiliated with the sys tray icon. When I double click the sys tray
icon I get the same kind of Local Area Connection Properties window
but it always shows 0 packets sent and received.

I must have something cross connected here but I cannot figure out
what it is. It looks like any attempts to communicate with the
Internet are misdirected onto the LAN network provisions for computer
to computer linking, but I never intended to set it up that way.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired
to your router, those same settings should work for this new PC,
provided you have installed the XP driver for the network card and
provided you are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over
the new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an
error message saying that this site is not available...check
Internet connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client software
and try to so a send/receive I get a similar message indicating
that there is no connection to my e-mail service provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected 1394
Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System


PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System


Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Yes, there is a Cat 5 network cable plugged between the LAN (RJ-45)
Port 1 on the rear panel connector setup on the rear of the AZUX
motherboard, and one of the Cat 5 sockets on the back of the Actontec
DSL Gateway.

I'm now wondering if these two ports on the AZUS motherboard are only
for LAN computer-to-computer home network setup. Maybe I do need an
add in card to connect from the new computer to the Actiontec DSL
Gateway.


I think it's important to do one thing at a time. If activating over the
telephone is too difficult because of your hearing impairments, I can
understand wanting to activate over the Net.

And if there are some settings for your WiFi that you haven't worked out
yet, put that project on the back burner and instead concentrate on
using a wired connection for the time being. So, don't worry about
things like signal strength! In fact, you can even temporarily disable
your WiFi connection if you wish.

Compare the settings above with the settings of the PC that *is* working
when it is connected to the Net via Ethernet cable. And make sure the
cable is plugged in!!! The important part of this puzzle is:

I've checked and re-checked this and it all seems to be in order.
Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

It needs to be enabled. And there needs to be a physical connection. :-)
And the TCP/IP settings need to be correct.

It is enabled, but I'm not clear as to which of the Network
Connections shown in the Control Panel Network Connections window is
for Internet connection via the Actiontec DSL Gateway and which is/are
for home network between local computers. Can you set me straight on
this?
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  #32  
Old October 17th 09, 12:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Antares 531[_2_]
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Default Win XP install problems

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Snip

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected 1394
Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System


PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System


Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Found the problem!!!

I powered down then switched the Cat 5 LAN cable from the AZUZ P7P55D
Deluxe Motherboard's LAN (RJ-45) Port 1 to the LAN (RJ-45) Port 2.
When I re-started the computer, kazammmm, it worked. It went on-line
immediately and started downloading updates.

I don't know what had me thinking that Port 1 should be used first,
then if another connection was needed, use Port 2. I somehow had the
idea that Port 2 would serve as a local computer to computer LAN
setup. Wrong again!!!

Anyway, the whole system is working very well and I was successful in
getting this installation of Windows XP Pro with the slipstreamed SP3
successfully registered and activated. All out in the clear now, and
ready to install Windows 7 when it is available.

Thanks very much, Daave, and all others who helped me through this.
Most of the problems were my own fault because I just made assumptions
instead of reading and verifying the critical things.

All's well that ends well, I guess. Gordon
  #33  
Old October 17th 09, 12:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Antares 531[_2_]
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Posts: 385
Default Win XP install problems

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Snip

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected 1394
Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System


PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System


Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Found the problem!!!

I powered down then switched the Cat 5 LAN cable from the AZUZ P7P55D
Deluxe Motherboard's LAN (RJ-45) Port 1 to the LAN (RJ-45) Port 2.
When I re-started the computer, kazammmm, it worked. It went on-line
immediately and started downloading updates.

I don't know what had me thinking that Port 1 should be used first,
then if another connection was needed, use Port 2. I somehow had the
idea that Port 2 would serve as a local computer to computer LAN
setup. Wrong again!!!

Anyway, the whole system is working very well and I was successful in
getting this installation of Windows XP Pro with the slipstreamed SP3
successfully registered and activated. All out in the clear now, and
ready to install Windows 7 when it is available.

Thanks very much, Daave, and all others who helped me through this.
Most of the problems were my own fault because I just made assumptions
instead of reading and verifying the critical things.

All's well that ends well, I guess. Gordon
  #34  
Old October 17th 09, 12:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Daave[_8_]
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Posts: 2,461
Default Win XP install problems

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave"
wrote: Snip

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I've tried this both ways...keying in the IP Address, Subnet Mask or
selecting Automatic. There doesn't seem to be any difference in the
way things work out.


That's why I mentioned to:

1. Note *all* the settings of the PC that works when connected via
Ethernet cable.

2. Obtain information from ISP.

and

3. Obtain information from router's User Guide with regard to assigning
IP addresses, etc. manually via Windows or having the router itself
assign them automatically to the PCs on your network.

It's difficult to tell from here, but it looks like you're mixing and
matching. If you're not obtaining an IP address automatically, then in
addition to the Subnet Mask, I would imagine you need to enter values
for the Default Gateway and the two DNS servers. Again, the more people
who see this new thread, the better.

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to
go back to the above values before it would re-connect.


As far as your wireless connection goes (and wired, too, if you
choose to use that), you need to make sure your settings are
correct. That depends on the information your ISP gave you as well
as the information from your router's User Guide. You have a choice
of assigning specific IP addresses to your networked PCs or you can
have the router assign these addresses automatically.

Again, if you still need help with that, I urge you to start a new
thread. Feel free to include a link to this one for reference.

I will start a new thread but I have one more cluster of questions
that ties tightly to this thread.

My new computer's Control Panel . Network Connections window shows
three connections.

1394 Net Adapter
Realtec PCIe GBE Family Controller
Realtec RTL 8189/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

When I try to do something on-line, the Local Area Connection
Properties window shows some send and receive packet activity for the
Realtec PCIe connection, but this isn't the one that seems to be
affiliated with the sys tray icon. When I double click the sys tray
icon I get the same kind of Local Area Connection Properties window
but it always shows 0 packets sent and received.


Instead of working backwards from the System Tray, try this:

Open Network Connections in Control Panel. Right-click each Realtek
connection and choose Properties. Then note the two boxes at the bottom.
That should give you your answer. Or at least, it should start you on
your way. Again, new thread! :-)

I must have something cross connected here but I cannot figure out
what it is. It looks like any attempts to communicate with the
Internet are misdirected onto the LAN network provisions for computer
to computer linking, but I never intended to set it up that way.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired
to your router, those same settings should work for this new PC,
provided you have installed the XP driver for the network card and
provided you are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over
the new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an
error message saying that this site is not available...check
Internet connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client
software and try to so a send/receive I get a similar message
indicating that there is no connection to my e-mail service
provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
1394 Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System


PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System


Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Yes, there is a Cat 5 network cable plugged between the LAN (RJ-45)
Port 1 on the rear panel connector setup on the rear of the AZUX
motherboard, and one of the Cat 5 sockets on the back of the Actontec
DSL Gateway.


And when this same cable is plugged into your other PC, you do have a
connection?

I'm now wondering if these two ports on the AZUS motherboard are only
for LAN computer-to-computer home network setup. Maybe I do need an
add in card to connect from the new computer to the Actiontec DSL
Gateway.


I think it's important to do one thing at a time. If activating over
the telephone is too difficult because of your hearing impairments,
I can understand wanting to activate over the Net.

And if there are some settings for your WiFi that you haven't worked
out yet, put that project on the back burner and instead concentrate
on using a wired connection for the time being. So, don't worry about
things like signal strength! In fact, you can even temporarily
disable your WiFi connection if you wish.

Compare the settings above with the settings of the PC that *is*
working when it is connected to the Net via Ethernet cable. And make
sure the cable is plugged in!!! The important part of this puzzle is:

I've checked and re-checked this and it all seems to be in order.
Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

It needs to be enabled. And there needs to be a physical connection.
:-) And the TCP/IP settings need to be correct.

It is enabled, but I'm not clear as to which of the Network
Connections shown in the Control Panel Network Connections window is
for Internet connection via the Actiontec DSL Gateway and which is/are
for home network between local computers. Can you set me straight on
this?


New thread. :-) And I would suggest cross-posting to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.


  #35  
Old October 17th 09, 12:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Daave[_8_]
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Posts: 2,461
Default Win XP install problems

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave"
wrote: Snip

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I've tried this both ways...keying in the IP Address, Subnet Mask or
selecting Automatic. There doesn't seem to be any difference in the
way things work out.


That's why I mentioned to:

1. Note *all* the settings of the PC that works when connected via
Ethernet cable.

2. Obtain information from ISP.

and

3. Obtain information from router's User Guide with regard to assigning
IP addresses, etc. manually via Windows or having the router itself
assign them automatically to the PCs on your network.

It's difficult to tell from here, but it looks like you're mixing and
matching. If you're not obtaining an IP address automatically, then in
addition to the Subnet Mask, I would imagine you need to enter values
for the Default Gateway and the two DNS servers. Again, the more people
who see this new thread, the better.

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to
go back to the above values before it would re-connect.


As far as your wireless connection goes (and wired, too, if you
choose to use that), you need to make sure your settings are
correct. That depends on the information your ISP gave you as well
as the information from your router's User Guide. You have a choice
of assigning specific IP addresses to your networked PCs or you can
have the router assign these addresses automatically.

Again, if you still need help with that, I urge you to start a new
thread. Feel free to include a link to this one for reference.

I will start a new thread but I have one more cluster of questions
that ties tightly to this thread.

My new computer's Control Panel . Network Connections window shows
three connections.

1394 Net Adapter
Realtec PCIe GBE Family Controller
Realtec RTL 8189/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

When I try to do something on-line, the Local Area Connection
Properties window shows some send and receive packet activity for the
Realtec PCIe connection, but this isn't the one that seems to be
affiliated with the sys tray icon. When I double click the sys tray
icon I get the same kind of Local Area Connection Properties window
but it always shows 0 packets sent and received.


Instead of working backwards from the System Tray, try this:

Open Network Connections in Control Panel. Right-click each Realtek
connection and choose Properties. Then note the two boxes at the bottom.
That should give you your answer. Or at least, it should start you on
your way. Again, new thread! :-)

I must have something cross connected here but I cannot figure out
what it is. It looks like any attempts to communicate with the
Internet are misdirected onto the LAN network provisions for computer
to computer linking, but I never intended to set it up that way.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired
to your router, those same settings should work for this new PC,
provided you have installed the XP driver for the network card and
provided you are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over
the new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an
error message saying that this site is not available...check
Internet connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client
software and try to so a send/receive I get a similar message
indicating that there is no connection to my e-mail service
provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
1394 Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System


PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System


Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Yes, there is a Cat 5 network cable plugged between the LAN (RJ-45)
Port 1 on the rear panel connector setup on the rear of the AZUX
motherboard, and one of the Cat 5 sockets on the back of the Actontec
DSL Gateway.


And when this same cable is plugged into your other PC, you do have a
connection?

I'm now wondering if these two ports on the AZUS motherboard are only
for LAN computer-to-computer home network setup. Maybe I do need an
add in card to connect from the new computer to the Actiontec DSL
Gateway.


I think it's important to do one thing at a time. If activating over
the telephone is too difficult because of your hearing impairments,
I can understand wanting to activate over the Net.

And if there are some settings for your WiFi that you haven't worked
out yet, put that project on the back burner and instead concentrate
on using a wired connection for the time being. So, don't worry about
things like signal strength! In fact, you can even temporarily
disable your WiFi connection if you wish.

Compare the settings above with the settings of the PC that *is*
working when it is connected to the Net via Ethernet cable. And make
sure the cable is plugged in!!! The important part of this puzzle is:

I've checked and re-checked this and it all seems to be in order.
Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

It needs to be enabled. And there needs to be a physical connection.
:-) And the TCP/IP settings need to be correct.

It is enabled, but I'm not clear as to which of the Network
Connections shown in the Control Panel Network Connections window is
for Internet connection via the Actiontec DSL Gateway and which is/are
for home network between local computers. Can you set me straight on
this?


New thread. :-) And I would suggest cross-posting to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.


  #36  
Old October 17th 09, 12:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Daave[_8_]
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Posts: 2,461
Default Win XP install problems

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave"
wrote:

Snip

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
1394 Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System


PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System


Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Found the problem!!!

I powered down then switched the Cat 5 LAN cable from the AZUZ P7P55D
Deluxe Motherboard's LAN (RJ-45) Port 1 to the LAN (RJ-45) Port 2.
When I re-started the computer, kazammmm, it worked. It went on-line
immediately and started downloading updates.

I don't know what had me thinking that Port 1 should be used first,
then if another connection was needed, use Port 2. I somehow had the
idea that Port 2 would serve as a local computer to computer LAN
setup. Wrong again!!!

Anyway, the whole system is working very well and I was successful in
getting this installation of Windows XP Pro with the slipstreamed SP3
successfully registered and activated. All out in the clear now, and
ready to install Windows 7 when it is available.

Thanks very much, Daave, and all others who helped me through this.
Most of the problems were my own fault because I just made assumptions
instead of reading and verifying the critical things.

All's well that ends well, I guess. Gordon


Congrats! Thanks for letting us know.


  #37  
Old October 17th 09, 12:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Daave[_8_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,461
Default Win XP install problems

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave"
wrote:

Snip

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
1394 Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System


PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System


Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Found the problem!!!

I powered down then switched the Cat 5 LAN cable from the AZUZ P7P55D
Deluxe Motherboard's LAN (RJ-45) Port 1 to the LAN (RJ-45) Port 2.
When I re-started the computer, kazammmm, it worked. It went on-line
immediately and started downloading updates.

I don't know what had me thinking that Port 1 should be used first,
then if another connection was needed, use Port 2. I somehow had the
idea that Port 2 would serve as a local computer to computer LAN
setup. Wrong again!!!

Anyway, the whole system is working very well and I was successful in
getting this installation of Windows XP Pro with the slipstreamed SP3
successfully registered and activated. All out in the clear now, and
ready to install Windows 7 when it is available.

Thanks very much, Daave, and all others who helped me through this.
Most of the problems were my own fault because I just made assumptions
instead of reading and verifying the critical things.

All's well that ends well, I guess. Gordon


Congrats! Thanks for letting us know.


  #38  
Old October 17th 09, 12:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Antares 531[_2_]
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Posts: 385
Default Win XP install problems

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:40:16 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave"
wrote: Snip

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I've tried this both ways...keying in the IP Address, Subnet Mask or
selecting Automatic. There doesn't seem to be any difference in the
way things work out.


That's why I mentioned to:

1. Note *all* the settings of the PC that works when connected via
Ethernet cable.

2. Obtain information from ISP.

and

3. Obtain information from router's User Guide with regard to assigning
IP addresses, etc. manually via Windows or having the router itself
assign them automatically to the PCs on your network.

It's difficult to tell from here, but it looks like you're mixing and
matching. If you're not obtaining an IP address automatically, then in
addition to the Subnet Mask, I would imagine you need to enter values
for the Default Gateway and the two DNS servers. Again, the more people
who see this new thread, the better.

This may be true. I somehow had the impression that the wireless
connected computers had to have their IP Address info manually set but
the Cat 5 LAN connected computers need the Auto Select item checked.

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to
go back to the above values before it would re-connect.

As far as your wireless connection goes (and wired, too, if you
choose to use that), you need to make sure your settings are
correct. That depends on the information your ISP gave you as well
as the information from your router's User Guide. You have a choice
of assigning specific IP addresses to your networked PCs or you can
have the router assign these addresses automatically.

The main reason I want the Cat 5 LAN hookup for this new computer is
that this gives a 400 Mbps connection whereas the wireless is usually
only about 50 Mbps. Since I won't be moving the new desktop computer
around, there is no benefit from a wireless connection, and the extra
speed is a benefit when sending/receiving things like large image
files or AutoCAD drawings.

Again, if you still need help with that, I urge you to start a new
thread. Feel free to include a link to this one for reference.

I will start a new thread but I have one more cluster of questions
that ties tightly to this thread.

My new computer's Control Panel . Network Connections window shows
three connections.

1394 Net Adapter
Realtec PCIe GBE Family Controller
Realtec RTL 8189/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

When I try to do something on-line, the Local Area Connection
Properties window shows some send and receive packet activity for the
Realtec PCIe connection, but this isn't the one that seems to be
affiliated with the sys tray icon. When I double click the sys tray
icon I get the same kind of Local Area Connection Properties window
but it always shows 0 packets sent and received.


Instead of working backwards from the System Tray, try this:

Open Network Connections in Control Panel. Right-click each Realtek
connection and choose Properties. Then note the two boxes at the bottom.
That should give you your answer. Or at least, it should start you on
your way. Again, new thread! :-)

I've done this, but I still could not get the Realtec RTL 8169/8110
Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC to talk to the Internet...until I switched
the Cat 5 LAN cable to Port 2 on the back of the motherboard...then it
all started working right.

I must have something cross connected here but I cannot figure out
what it is. It looks like any attempts to communicate with the
Internet are misdirected onto the LAN network provisions for computer
to computer linking, but I never intended to set it up that way.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired
to your router, those same settings should work for this new PC,
provided you have installed the XP driver for the network card and
provided you are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over
the new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an
error message saying that this site is not available...check
Internet connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client
software and try to so a send/receive I get a similar message
indicating that there is no connection to my e-mail service
provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
1394 Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System

PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Yes, there is a Cat 5 network cable plugged between the LAN (RJ-45)
Port 1 on the rear panel connector setup on the rear of the AZUX
motherboard, and one of the Cat 5 sockets on the back of the Actontec
DSL Gateway.


And when this same cable is plugged into your other PC, you do have a
connection?

I've not yet tried anything in the computer-to-computer LAN setup.

I'm now wondering if these two ports on the AZUS motherboard are only
for LAN computer-to-computer home network setup. Maybe I do need an
add in card to connect from the new computer to the Actiontec DSL
Gateway.


I think it's important to do one thing at a time. If activating over
the telephone is too difficult because of your hearing impairments,
I can understand wanting to activate over the Net.

And if there are some settings for your WiFi that you haven't worked
out yet, put that project on the back burner and instead concentrate
on using a wired connection for the time being. So, don't worry about
things like signal strength! In fact, you can even temporarily
disable your WiFi connection if you wish.

Compare the settings above with the settings of the PC that *is*
working when it is connected to the Net via Ethernet cable. And make
sure the cable is plugged in!!! The important part of this puzzle is:

I've checked and re-checked this and it all seems to be in order.
Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

It needs to be enabled. And there needs to be a physical connection.
:-) And the TCP/IP settings need to be correct.

It is enabled, but I'm not clear as to which of the Network
Connections shown in the Control Panel Network Connections window is
for Internet connection via the Actiontec DSL Gateway and which is/are
for home network between local computers. Can you set me straight on
this?


New thread. :-) And I would suggest cross-posting to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.

  #39  
Old October 17th 09, 12:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Antares 531[_2_]
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:40:16 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:11:15 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:25:11 -0400, "Daave"
wrote: Snip

My new computer shows these readings:

IP Address: 192.169.0.5
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

The other slots are all blank

I've tried this both ways...keying in the IP Address, Subnet Mask or
selecting Automatic. There doesn't seem to be any difference in the
way things work out.


That's why I mentioned to:

1. Note *all* the settings of the PC that works when connected via
Ethernet cable.

2. Obtain information from ISP.

and

3. Obtain information from router's User Guide with regard to assigning
IP addresses, etc. manually via Windows or having the router itself
assign them automatically to the PCs on your network.

It's difficult to tell from here, but it looks like you're mixing and
matching. If you're not obtaining an IP address automatically, then in
addition to the Subnet Mask, I would imagine you need to enter values
for the Default Gateway and the two DNS servers. Again, the more people
who see this new thread, the better.

This may be true. I somehow had the impression that the wireless
connected computers had to have their IP Address info manually set but
the Cat 5 LAN connected computers need the Auto Select item checked.

I think I keyed these values in as shown on the other computers that
do use wireless connections. I tried selecting the "Obtain an IP
address automatically" but this killed the connection and I had to
go back to the above values before it would re-connect.

As far as your wireless connection goes (and wired, too, if you
choose to use that), you need to make sure your settings are
correct. That depends on the information your ISP gave you as well
as the information from your router's User Guide. You have a choice
of assigning specific IP addresses to your networked PCs or you can
have the router assign these addresses automatically.

The main reason I want the Cat 5 LAN hookup for this new computer is
that this gives a 400 Mbps connection whereas the wireless is usually
only about 50 Mbps. Since I won't be moving the new desktop computer
around, there is no benefit from a wireless connection, and the extra
speed is a benefit when sending/receiving things like large image
files or AutoCAD drawings.

Again, if you still need help with that, I urge you to start a new
thread. Feel free to include a link to this one for reference.

I will start a new thread but I have one more cluster of questions
that ties tightly to this thread.

My new computer's Control Panel . Network Connections window shows
three connections.

1394 Net Adapter
Realtec PCIe GBE Family Controller
Realtec RTL 8189/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC

When I try to do something on-line, the Local Area Connection
Properties window shows some send and receive packet activity for the
Realtec PCIe connection, but this isn't the one that seems to be
affiliated with the sys tray icon. When I double click the sys tray
icon I get the same kind of Local Area Connection Properties window
but it always shows 0 packets sent and received.


Instead of working backwards from the System Tray, try this:

Open Network Connections in Control Panel. Right-click each Realtek
connection and choose Properties. Then note the two boxes at the bottom.
That should give you your answer. Or at least, it should start you on
your way. Again, new thread! :-)

I've done this, but I still could not get the Realtec RTL 8169/8110
Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC to talk to the Internet...until I switched
the Cat 5 LAN cable to Port 2 on the back of the motherboard...then it
all started working right.

I must have something cross connected here but I cannot figure out
what it is. It looks like any attempts to communicate with the
Internet are misdirected onto the LAN network provisions for computer
to computer linking, but I never intended to set it up that way.

But if you note the settings on your PC that is normally hard-wired
to your router, those same settings should work for this new PC,
provided you have installed the XP driver for the network card and
provided you are using the wired, not wireless, connection.

The reading in the balloon I get when I put my mouse pointer over
the new computer's connection icon is:

Local Area Connection
Speed: 400.0 Mbps
Status: Connected

But, when I open I.E. and try to visit an Internet site I get an
error message saying that this site is not available...check
Internet connection, etc. Also, when I open my mail client
software and try to so a send/receive I get a similar message
indicating that there is no connection to my e-mail service
provider.

See above. Also bring up a command prompt and see if you can ping
google.com.

Finally, what do you see when you open up Network Connections in
Control Panel?

I see three entries here;

Connected:

Local Area Connection LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
1394 Net adapter System

Local Area Connection 2 LAN or High Speed Internet Connected
Realtek PCI GBE family Controller System

PCI or PCIe?

Network Cable Unplugged:

Local Area Connection 3 LAN or High Speed Internet Network Cable
Unplugged Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

Is the network cable actually unplugged? If so, there's your problem.
:-)

Yes, there is a Cat 5 network cable plugged between the LAN (RJ-45)
Port 1 on the rear panel connector setup on the rear of the AZUX
motherboard, and one of the Cat 5 sockets on the back of the Actontec
DSL Gateway.


And when this same cable is plugged into your other PC, you do have a
connection?

I've not yet tried anything in the computer-to-computer LAN setup.

I'm now wondering if these two ports on the AZUS motherboard are only
for LAN computer-to-computer home network setup. Maybe I do need an
add in card to connect from the new computer to the Actiontec DSL
Gateway.


I think it's important to do one thing at a time. If activating over
the telephone is too difficult because of your hearing impairments,
I can understand wanting to activate over the Net.

And if there are some settings for your WiFi that you haven't worked
out yet, put that project on the back burner and instead concentrate
on using a wired connection for the time being. So, don't worry about
things like signal strength! In fact, you can even temporarily
disable your WiFi connection if you wish.

Compare the settings above with the settings of the PC that *is*
working when it is connected to the Net via Ethernet cable. And make
sure the cable is plugged in!!! The important part of this puzzle is:

I've checked and re-checked this and it all seems to be in order.
Realtek RTL 8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC System

It needs to be enabled. And there needs to be a physical connection.
:-) And the TCP/IP settings need to be correct.

It is enabled, but I'm not clear as to which of the Network
Connections shown in the Control Panel Network Connections window is
for Internet connection via the Actiontec DSL Gateway and which is/are
for home network between local computers. Can you set me straight on
this?


New thread. :-) And I would suggest cross-posting to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.

  #40  
Old December 5th 09, 10:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Teazle
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"Antares 531" wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:30:46 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.


Good news!

Which method worked for you, Gordon?

I don't know which method my friend used. I didn't watch over his
shoulder and he didn't provide any specifics. All I know is that it
worked, and this resolved all the problems with installing Windows XP
Pro on my new computer. I did have to show it my old Windows 2000 CD
during the install process but that was to be expected since my copy
of Windows XP Pro is an upgrade copy.

Now, if I can just get the new computer to talk to the LAN Router
Firewall and get on through to the Internet so I can go on-line and
get this installation's license cleared, all will be well.

Gordon
.

  #41  
Old December 5th 09, 10:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Teazle
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"Antares 531" wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:30:46 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.


Good news!

Which method worked for you, Gordon?

I don't know which method my friend used. I didn't watch over his
shoulder and he didn't provide any specifics. All I know is that it
worked, and this resolved all the problems with installing Windows XP
Pro on my new computer. I did have to show it my old Windows 2000 CD
during the install process but that was to be expected since my copy
of Windows XP Pro is an upgrade copy.

Now, if I can just get the new computer to talk to the LAN Router
Firewall and get on through to the Internet so I can go on-line and
get this installation's license cleared, all will be well.

Gordon
.

  #42  
Old December 5th 09, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Teazle
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Posts: 6
Default Win XP install problems



"Antares 531" wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:30:46 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.


Good news!

Which method worked for you, Gordon?

I don't know which method my friend used. I didn't watch over his
shoulder and he didn't provide any specifics. All I know is that it
worked, and this resolved all the problems with installing Windows XP
Pro on my new computer. I did have to show it my old Windows 2000 CD
during the install process but that was to be expected since my copy
of Windows XP Pro is an upgrade copy.

Now, if I can just get the new computer to talk to the LAN Router
Firewall and get on through to the Internet so I can go on-line and
get this installation's license cleared, all will be well.

Gordon
.

  #43  
Old December 5th 09, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Teazle
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Posts: 6
Default Win XP install problems



"Antares 531" wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:30:46 -0400, "Daave" wrote:

Antares 531 wrote:
The slipstreamed Windows XP CD with SP 3 was all it took.


Good news!

Which method worked for you, Gordon?

I don't know which method my friend used. I didn't watch over his
shoulder and he didn't provide any specifics. All I know is that it
worked, and this resolved all the problems with installing Windows XP
Pro on my new computer. I did have to show it my old Windows 2000 CD
during the install process but that was to be expected since my copy
of Windows XP Pro is an upgrade copy.

Now, if I can just get the new computer to talk to the LAN Router
Firewall and get on through to the Internet so I can go on-line and
get this installation's license cleared, all will be well.

Gordon
.

  #44  
Old December 5th 09, 10:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Teazle
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Posts: 6
Default Win XP install problems

My problem is very similarto Gordon's, except that I have an i5 processor.
I have already installed Windows 7 and that runs fine. I have a second hard
drive, on which I tried to install XP - thinking I could then press F8 to
select which hard drive to use for booting.
The XP install started OK, booting from the CD. I formatted the drive,
then the first files loaded. I get as far as the 'Starting Windows' before
the blue screen with the same warning that Gordon mentions.
I then took out the hard drive, put it in my old computer - everything was
fine & XP installed. I added service pack 2. Put this drive back, tried to
booted up to the reinstalled drive - selected it OK - no joy - only option to
reboot normally, or safe modes etc - none work.
I do not have service pack 3 - but am now wondering if I downloaded this,
intalled it on old copmuter, would it then work on the new one?

Many thanks


I
  #45  
Old December 5th 09, 10:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Teazle
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Posts: 6
Default Win XP install problems

My problem is very similarto Gordon's, except that I have an i5 processor.
I have already installed Windows 7 and that runs fine. I have a second hard
drive, on which I tried to install XP - thinking I could then press F8 to
select which hard drive to use for booting.
The XP install started OK, booting from the CD. I formatted the drive,
then the first files loaded. I get as far as the 'Starting Windows' before
the blue screen with the same warning that Gordon mentions.
I then took out the hard drive, put it in my old computer - everything was
fine & XP installed. I added service pack 2. Put this drive back, tried to
booted up to the reinstalled drive - selected it OK - no joy - only option to
reboot normally, or safe modes etc - none work.
I do not have service pack 3 - but am now wondering if I downloaded this,
intalled it on old copmuter, would it then work on the new one?

Many thanks


I
 




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