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Jo-Anne wrote:
I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Shenan Stanley wrote: Netbook got Bluetooth? Get a Bluetooth mouse. Jo-Anne wrote: Thank you, Shenan! I guess the netbook does have Bluetooth (see description below), but what is the advantage to a Bluetooth mouse? (I'm not sure I really understand what Bluetooth is...). The computer is described as follows: "features a 160 GB hard disk drive, 1 GB of RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB), 54g Wi-Fi networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth connectivity (version 2.1 + EDR), Fast Ethernet, and a Secure Digital memory card slot." Brian A. wrote: AFAIK there is no transciever needed for Bluetooth wireless, unlike other wireless which use a USB transciever. Personally, I prefer a wired USB mouse, saves money not spent on batteries. Jo-Anne, It's a wireless device that doesn't require you to use a USB port on your netbook to utilize the device (as long as it has Bluetooth.) You likely have limited ports anyway - why waste one on a mouse - corded or otherwise? Brian A., I prefer my wireless bluetooth mice for laptops. I usually get about 8 months out of a pair of triple A sized batteries - and I use that laptop *a lot* and leave the mouse on almost constantly on weekends. It's only off during the transport of the laptop from one place to another or when it is docked at the office... I actually use a different wireless mouse (Logitech with charger stand) at the office when it is docked. Saving the port for using other devices (without having to carry something else around to expand the number of ports I have) is enough for me to spend the less than $3 U.S every 8 months on batteries. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Jo-Anne wrote:
I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Shenan Stanley wrote: Netbook got Bluetooth? Get a Bluetooth mouse. Jo-Anne wrote: Thank you, Shenan! I guess the netbook does have Bluetooth (see description below), but what is the advantage to a Bluetooth mouse? (I'm not sure I really understand what Bluetooth is...). The computer is described as follows: "features a 160 GB hard disk drive, 1 GB of RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB), 54g Wi-Fi networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth connectivity (version 2.1 + EDR), Fast Ethernet, and a Secure Digital memory card slot." Brian A. wrote: AFAIK there is no transciever needed for Bluetooth wireless, unlike other wireless which use a USB transciever. Personally, I prefer a wired USB mouse, saves money not spent on batteries. Jo-Anne, It's a wireless device that doesn't require you to use a USB port on your netbook to utilize the device (as long as it has Bluetooth.) You likely have limited ports anyway - why waste one on a mouse - corded or otherwise? Brian A., I prefer my wireless bluetooth mice for laptops. I usually get about 8 months out of a pair of triple A sized batteries - and I use that laptop *a lot* and leave the mouse on almost constantly on weekends. It's only off during the transport of the laptop from one place to another or when it is docked at the office... I actually use a different wireless mouse (Logitech with charger stand) at the office when it is docked. Saving the port for using other devices (without having to carry something else around to expand the number of ports I have) is enough for me to spend the less than $3 U.S every 8 months on batteries. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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"Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message ... "SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message ... I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Thank you! Jo-Anne If the netbook has Bluetooth, take Shenan's suggestion and go with that. If you don't have Bluetooth, I would go with one of the wireless mice. Pick one with the small dongle so you don't have as much of a chance snagging it on something and possibly damaging the netbook's USB port. Mine is similar to this, but with the larger dongle, and I like it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104216 There are plenty of others; pick your price :-) I would stay away from the retractable cord ones. I had one that lasted three weeks, and the warranty replacement lasted about six weeks. I've had a couple of gamepads with retractable cords, and they were less than stellar also. SC Tom Thank you, SC Tom! I've got lots to learn, I'm afraid. After your mention of a dongle, I've been trying to figure out what exactly it is (most of what I found with Google referred to a copy protection device). I gather it's something that plugs into a USB port and enables you to use a cordless mouse--right? And Bluetooth means you can use a mouse without a dongle? If so, does that mean all wireless mice are cordless, but not all cordless mice are wireless? And what is the advantage to a wireless mouse over just a cordless one? Thank you again! Jo-Anne Cordless is wireless. Both terms just mean that there is no physical connection between the mouse and the PC. USB wireless requires a transceiver (dongle) to be plugged into your USB port, whereas Bluetooth doesn't; the transceiver is built into the netbook, eliminating the need for any external plug-ins. Wireless mice require batteries. My Logitech uses 1 AA, and my larger Microsoft one takes 2 AA. Some use AAA batteries. Average life seems to be 6 to 12 months. Both of mine seem to last 6-7 months, but my daughter-in-law's newer mouse gets about a year before replacing the batteries. Since your netbook does have Bluetooth, I would go with a Bluetooth mouse. SC Tom |
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"Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message ... "SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message ... I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Thank you! Jo-Anne If the netbook has Bluetooth, take Shenan's suggestion and go with that. If you don't have Bluetooth, I would go with one of the wireless mice. Pick one with the small dongle so you don't have as much of a chance snagging it on something and possibly damaging the netbook's USB port. Mine is similar to this, but with the larger dongle, and I like it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104216 There are plenty of others; pick your price :-) I would stay away from the retractable cord ones. I had one that lasted three weeks, and the warranty replacement lasted about six weeks. I've had a couple of gamepads with retractable cords, and they were less than stellar also. SC Tom Thank you, SC Tom! I've got lots to learn, I'm afraid. After your mention of a dongle, I've been trying to figure out what exactly it is (most of what I found with Google referred to a copy protection device). I gather it's something that plugs into a USB port and enables you to use a cordless mouse--right? And Bluetooth means you can use a mouse without a dongle? If so, does that mean all wireless mice are cordless, but not all cordless mice are wireless? And what is the advantage to a wireless mouse over just a cordless one? Thank you again! Jo-Anne Cordless is wireless. Both terms just mean that there is no physical connection between the mouse and the PC. USB wireless requires a transceiver (dongle) to be plugged into your USB port, whereas Bluetooth doesn't; the transceiver is built into the netbook, eliminating the need for any external plug-ins. Wireless mice require batteries. My Logitech uses 1 AA, and my larger Microsoft one takes 2 AA. Some use AAA batteries. Average life seems to be 6 to 12 months. Both of mine seem to last 6-7 months, but my daughter-in-law's newer mouse gets about a year before replacing the batteries. Since your netbook does have Bluetooth, I would go with a Bluetooth mouse. SC Tom |
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"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
... "Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... Jo-Anne wrote: I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Netbook got Bluetooth? Get a Bluetooth mouse. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thank you, Shenan! I guess the netbook does have Bluetooth (see description below), but what is the advantage to a Bluetooth mouse? (I'm not sure I really understand what Bluetooth is...). The computer is described as follows: "features a 160 GB hard disk drive, 1 GB of RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB), 54g Wi-Fi networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth connectivity (version 2.1 + EDR), Fast Ethernet, and a Secure Digital memory card slot." Thank you again! Jo-Anne AFAIK there is no transciever needed for Bluetooth wireless, unlike other wireless which use a USB transciever. Personally, I prefer a wired USB mouse, saves money not spent on batteries. -- Brian A. Sesko Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Thank you, Brian! Jo-Anne |
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"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
... "Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... Jo-Anne wrote: I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Netbook got Bluetooth? Get a Bluetooth mouse. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thank you, Shenan! I guess the netbook does have Bluetooth (see description below), but what is the advantage to a Bluetooth mouse? (I'm not sure I really understand what Bluetooth is...). The computer is described as follows: "features a 160 GB hard disk drive, 1 GB of RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB), 54g Wi-Fi networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth connectivity (version 2.1 + EDR), Fast Ethernet, and a Secure Digital memory card slot." Thank you again! Jo-Anne AFAIK there is no transciever needed for Bluetooth wireless, unlike other wireless which use a USB transciever. Personally, I prefer a wired USB mouse, saves money not spent on batteries. -- Brian A. Sesko Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Thank you, Brian! Jo-Anne |
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
... Jo-Anne wrote: I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Shenan Stanley wrote: Netbook got Bluetooth? Get a Bluetooth mouse. Jo-Anne wrote: Thank you, Shenan! I guess the netbook does have Bluetooth (see description below), but what is the advantage to a Bluetooth mouse? (I'm not sure I really understand what Bluetooth is...). The computer is described as follows: "features a 160 GB hard disk drive, 1 GB of RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB), 54g Wi-Fi networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth connectivity (version 2.1 + EDR), Fast Ethernet, and a Secure Digital memory card slot." Brian A. wrote: AFAIK there is no transciever needed for Bluetooth wireless, unlike other wireless which use a USB transciever. Personally, I prefer a wired USB mouse, saves money not spent on batteries. Jo-Anne, It's a wireless device that doesn't require you to use a USB port on your netbook to utilize the device (as long as it has Bluetooth.) You likely have limited ports anyway - why waste one on a mouse - corded or otherwise? Brian A., I prefer my wireless bluetooth mice for laptops. I usually get about 8 months out of a pair of triple A sized batteries - and I use that laptop *a lot* and leave the mouse on almost constantly on weekends. It's only off during the transport of the laptop from one place to another or when it is docked at the office... I actually use a different wireless mouse (Logitech with charger stand) at the office when it is docked. Saving the port for using other devices (without having to carry something else around to expand the number of ports I have) is enough for me to spend the less than $3 U.S every 8 months on batteries. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thank you, Shenan! Jo-Anne |
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
... Jo-Anne wrote: I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Shenan Stanley wrote: Netbook got Bluetooth? Get a Bluetooth mouse. Jo-Anne wrote: Thank you, Shenan! I guess the netbook does have Bluetooth (see description below), but what is the advantage to a Bluetooth mouse? (I'm not sure I really understand what Bluetooth is...). The computer is described as follows: "features a 160 GB hard disk drive, 1 GB of RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB), 54g Wi-Fi networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth connectivity (version 2.1 + EDR), Fast Ethernet, and a Secure Digital memory card slot." Brian A. wrote: AFAIK there is no transciever needed for Bluetooth wireless, unlike other wireless which use a USB transciever. Personally, I prefer a wired USB mouse, saves money not spent on batteries. Jo-Anne, It's a wireless device that doesn't require you to use a USB port on your netbook to utilize the device (as long as it has Bluetooth.) You likely have limited ports anyway - why waste one on a mouse - corded or otherwise? Brian A., I prefer my wireless bluetooth mice for laptops. I usually get about 8 months out of a pair of triple A sized batteries - and I use that laptop *a lot* and leave the mouse on almost constantly on weekends. It's only off during the transport of the laptop from one place to another or when it is docked at the office... I actually use a different wireless mouse (Logitech with charger stand) at the office when it is docked. Saving the port for using other devices (without having to carry something else around to expand the number of ports I have) is enough for me to spend the less than $3 U.S every 8 months on batteries. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thank you, Shenan! Jo-Anne |
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"SC Tom" wrote in message
... "Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message ... "SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message ... I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Thank you! Jo-Anne If the netbook has Bluetooth, take Shenan's suggestion and go with that. If you don't have Bluetooth, I would go with one of the wireless mice. Pick one with the small dongle so you don't have as much of a chance snagging it on something and possibly damaging the netbook's USB port. Mine is similar to this, but with the larger dongle, and I like it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104216 There are plenty of others; pick your price :-) I would stay away from the retractable cord ones. I had one that lasted three weeks, and the warranty replacement lasted about six weeks. I've had a couple of gamepads with retractable cords, and they were less than stellar also. SC Tom Thank you, SC Tom! I've got lots to learn, I'm afraid. After your mention of a dongle, I've been trying to figure out what exactly it is (most of what I found with Google referred to a copy protection device). I gather it's something that plugs into a USB port and enables you to use a cordless mouse--right? And Bluetooth means you can use a mouse without a dongle? If so, does that mean all wireless mice are cordless, but not all cordless mice are wireless? And what is the advantage to a wireless mouse over just a cordless one? Thank you again! Jo-Anne Cordless is wireless. Both terms just mean that there is no physical connection between the mouse and the PC. USB wireless requires a transceiver (dongle) to be plugged into your USB port, whereas Bluetooth doesn't; the transceiver is built into the netbook, eliminating the need for any external plug-ins. Wireless mice require batteries. My Logitech uses 1 AA, and my larger Microsoft one takes 2 AA. Some use AAA batteries. Average life seems to be 6 to 12 months. Both of mine seem to last 6-7 months, but my daughter-in-law's newer mouse gets about a year before replacing the batteries. Since your netbook does have Bluetooth, I would go with a Bluetooth mouse. SC Tom Thank you, SC Tom! This helps me figure out what to do. So I don't need a dongle. I can use either a wired mouse plugged into the USB port or a wireless mouse with batteries. One more question: How would I install a Bluetooth mouse, since there's no direct connection? Thank you again! Jo-Anne |
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"SC Tom" wrote in message
... "Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message ... "SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Jo-Anne" Jo-AnneATnowhere.com wrote in message ... I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Thank you! Jo-Anne If the netbook has Bluetooth, take Shenan's suggestion and go with that. If you don't have Bluetooth, I would go with one of the wireless mice. Pick one with the small dongle so you don't have as much of a chance snagging it on something and possibly damaging the netbook's USB port. Mine is similar to this, but with the larger dongle, and I like it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104216 There are plenty of others; pick your price :-) I would stay away from the retractable cord ones. I had one that lasted three weeks, and the warranty replacement lasted about six weeks. I've had a couple of gamepads with retractable cords, and they were less than stellar also. SC Tom Thank you, SC Tom! I've got lots to learn, I'm afraid. After your mention of a dongle, I've been trying to figure out what exactly it is (most of what I found with Google referred to a copy protection device). I gather it's something that plugs into a USB port and enables you to use a cordless mouse--right? And Bluetooth means you can use a mouse without a dongle? If so, does that mean all wireless mice are cordless, but not all cordless mice are wireless? And what is the advantage to a wireless mouse over just a cordless one? Thank you again! Jo-Anne Cordless is wireless. Both terms just mean that there is no physical connection between the mouse and the PC. USB wireless requires a transceiver (dongle) to be plugged into your USB port, whereas Bluetooth doesn't; the transceiver is built into the netbook, eliminating the need for any external plug-ins. Wireless mice require batteries. My Logitech uses 1 AA, and my larger Microsoft one takes 2 AA. Some use AAA batteries. Average life seems to be 6 to 12 months. Both of mine seem to last 6-7 months, but my daughter-in-law's newer mouse gets about a year before replacing the batteries. Since your netbook does have Bluetooth, I would go with a Bluetooth mouse. SC Tom Thank you, SC Tom! This helps me figure out what to do. So I don't need a dongle. I can use either a wired mouse plugged into the USB port or a wireless mouse with batteries. One more question: How would I install a Bluetooth mouse, since there's no direct connection? Thank you again! Jo-Anne |
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Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, SC Tom! This helps me figure out what to do. So I don't need a dongle. I can use either a wired mouse plugged into the USB port or a wireless mouse with batteries. One more question: How would I install a Bluetooth mouse, since there's no direct connection? You'd pair it. The mouse should come with instructions. http://www.google.com/search?q=how+t...uetooth+device -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, SC Tom! This helps me figure out what to do. So I don't need a dongle. I can use either a wired mouse plugged into the USB port or a wireless mouse with batteries. One more question: How would I install a Bluetooth mouse, since there's no direct connection? You'd pair it. The mouse should come with instructions. http://www.google.com/search?q=how+t...uetooth+device -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Thank you, Shenan!
Jo-Anne "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... Jo-Anne wrote: Thank you, SC Tom! This helps me figure out what to do. So I don't need a dongle. I can use either a wired mouse plugged into the USB port or a wireless mouse with batteries. One more question: How would I install a Bluetooth mouse, since there's no direct connection? You'd pair it. The mouse should come with instructions. http://www.google.com/search?q=how+t...uetooth+device -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Thank you, Shenan!
Jo-Anne "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... Jo-Anne wrote: Thank you, SC Tom! This helps me figure out what to do. So I don't need a dongle. I can use either a wired mouse plugged into the USB port or a wireless mouse with batteries. One more question: How would I install a Bluetooth mouse, since there's no direct connection? You'd pair it. The mouse should come with instructions. http://www.google.com/search?q=how+t...uetooth+device -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Jo-Anne wrote:
"Rick" wrote in message ... Jo-Anne wrote: I'm about to order a netbook with WinXP (as well as a case and a DVD burner). I know I'm going to want at least a mouse (travel size) to go with it. Can anyone recommend a particular mouse--or even a type of mouse? I suspect they're all optical these days, but is wireless the way to go, or are those on a retractable cord OK? Is there anything else that would be good to have for travel with the netbook? Thank you! Jo-Anne Logitech makes a very nice wireless mouse for portables Thank you, Rick! I just asked others about whether there's a difference between a wireless mouse and a cordless mouse. I guess I considered the two terms interchangeable. Now I'm thinking that maybe you can't use a wireless mouse unless you have Bluetooth. Is that correct? Thank you again! Jo-Anne With respect to mice, wireless = cordless, but these two terms are not quite synonymous with Bluetooth. Instead of a wire connecting the mouse to the computer, communication between the mouse and the computer is by radio, which means that there must be a receiver and a transmitter in *both* the mouse and the computer. "Bluetooth" is a proprietary name for a low-power, short-range, radio technology. http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Technology/ Laptops and netbooks may come with a Bluetooth receiver/transmitter built-in to the computer. In this case, all you need is a Bluetooth mouse, which has its own receiver/transmitter. A cordless or wireless mouse uses a different kind of radio technology. Because this is different than the radio technology used in Bluetooth or in "wireless network (wifi)" systems (which might also be built-in to your computer), if you have this type of mouse, you must connect the correct receiver/transmitter to the computer using a USB port. For desktop work, this might also incorporate a cradle in which the mouse can recharge. For laptops, the receiver/transmitter looks like a USB flash memory stick, about 1 to 3 inches long. More recently, the devices have been greatly shortened so they only stick out about 1/3 inch after they are plugged into the USB port. These are frequently called "nano" mouses or nano transceivers. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
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