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April 19th 06, 04:10 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great
source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. 
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#2
April 19th 06, 04:35 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is
nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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#3
April 19th 06, 05:05 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
On Usenet too? I don't think so...
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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April 19th 06, 06:51 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
And I quote:
"Legally anything that it written down is copyright ...[I skip the rest due to copyright restrictions]... acknowledged then that is fine." :-) "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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#5
April 19th 06, 07:08 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
You're being too silly now John as no one can prove who wrote what on usenet
;-) and who would even try? In fact I am John.... ;-) "John Jay Smith" - wrote in message ... And I quote: "Legally anything that it written down is copyright ...[I skip the rest due to copyright restrictions]... acknowledged then that is fine." :-) "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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#6
April 19th 06, 07:10 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
Is written down the same as typed?
"Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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#7
April 19th 06, 07:33 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
On Usenet too. And yes written down is typed as well.
Thousands of my posts are scattered on Usenet but, in most cases, i am cited as the author. I have no problem with that, because i have posted a reply in good faith to help other user's. Some people dislike their prose being scattered to the four winds of cyber space that is their prerogative. IP numbers are easily traced anyway and all newgroups keep records of where the post has been sent from etc, so with a little bit of work the culprit can be found. A recent incident actually comes to mind whereby, while checking my website statistics, i came across a site i hadn't seen before. Upon investigating further the link took me to a website that specialised in Windows XP help and support. The site was well laid out and had some useful tips. I then noticed a Windows XP faq link. Well i like to know what information other sites are giving out, if only to make sure i am up to date on my own website. Imagine the surprise when i clicked on the link and found 125 pages of my own website 'pasted' into this website. The only thing missing was my website masthead. The guy hadn't even linked the page to my site, he had simply copied the whole lot and pasted into his site. Now if that isn't copyright infringement i don't know what is. A quick cease and desist notice to the guy in question and a copy to his web hosting company followed by a threat of legal action soon closed him down. As i've said newsgroup posts don't bother me (unless they are libellous). It simply depends upon where your priorities lie. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... On Usenet too? I don't think so... "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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#8
April 20th 06, 07:33 AM
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Jonathans' sig.
Copying from a website is not the same as copying usenet posts...
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... On Usenet too. And yes written down is typed as well. Thousands of my posts are scattered on Usenet but, in most cases, i am cited as the author. I have no problem with that, because i have posted a reply in good faith to help other user's. Some people dislike their prose being scattered to the four winds of cyber space that is their prerogative. IP numbers are easily traced anyway and all newgroups keep records of where the post has been sent from etc, so with a little bit of work the culprit can be found. A recent incident actually comes to mind whereby, while checking my website statistics, i came across a site i hadn't seen before. Upon investigating further the link took me to a website that specialised in Windows XP help and support. The site was well laid out and had some useful tips. I then noticed a Windows XP faq link. Well i like to know what information other sites are giving out, if only to make sure i am up to date on my own website. Imagine the surprise when i clicked on the link and found 125 pages of my own website 'pasted' into this website. The only thing missing was my website masthead. The guy hadn't even linked the page to my site, he had simply copied the whole lot and pasted into his site. Now if that isn't copyright infringement i don't know what is. A quick cease and desist notice to the guy in question and a copy to his web hosting company followed by a threat of legal action soon closed him down. As i've said newsgroup posts don't bother me (unless they are libellous). It simply depends upon where your priorities lie. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... On Usenet too? I don't think so... "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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#9
April 20th 06, 09:05 AM
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Jonathans' sig.
My real name is not john though :-)
"Mac" wrote in message ... You're being too silly now John as no one can prove who wrote what on usenet ;-) and who would even try? In fact I am John.... ;-) "John Jay Smith" - wrote in message ... And I quote: "Legally anything that it written down is copyright ...[I skip the rest due to copyright restrictions]... acknowledged then that is fine." :-) "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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April 20th 06, 04:33 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
Copying and passing the contents off as your own is exactly the same
regardless of whether it be from a website or usernet. As far as i am aware there is not distinction in copyright law. Copying and passing off as your own work something that has been created by someone else is breach of copyright, period! -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... Copying from a website is not the same as copying usenet posts... "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... On Usenet too. And yes written down is typed as well. Thousands of my posts are scattered on Usenet but, in most cases, i am cited as the author. I have no problem with that, because i have posted a reply in good faith to help other user's. Some people dislike their prose being scattered to the four winds of cyber space that is their prerogative. IP numbers are easily traced anyway and all newgroups keep records of where the post has been sent from etc, so with a little bit of work the culprit can be found. A recent incident actually comes to mind whereby, while checking my website statistics, i came across a site i hadn't seen before. Upon investigating further the link took me to a website that specialised in Windows XP help and support. The site was well laid out and had some useful tips. I then noticed a Windows XP faq link. Well i like to know what information other sites are giving out, if only to make sure i am up to date on my own website. Imagine the surprise when i clicked on the link and found 125 pages of my own website 'pasted' into this website. The only thing missing was my website masthead. The guy hadn't even linked the page to my site, he had simply copied the whole lot and pasted into his site. Now if that isn't copyright infringement i don't know what is. A quick cease and desist notice to the guy in question and a copy to his web hosting company followed by a threat of legal action soon closed him down. As i've said newsgroup posts don't bother me (unless they are libellous). It simply depends upon where your priorities lie. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... On Usenet too? I don't think so... "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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April 20th 06, 05:51 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
Exactly.
I actually have a friend highly involved with copyright and my signature is based on his suggestions. -- Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. -- "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Copying and passing the contents off as your own is exactly the same regardless of whether it be from a website or usernet. As far as i am aware there is not distinction in copyright law. Copying and passing off as your own work something that has been created by someone else is breach of copyright, period! -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... Copying from a website is not the same as copying usenet posts... "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... On Usenet too. And yes written down is typed as well. Thousands of my posts are scattered on Usenet but, in most cases, i am cited as the author. I have no problem with that, because i have posted a reply in good faith to help other user's. Some people dislike their prose being scattered to the four winds of cyber space that is their prerogative. IP numbers are easily traced anyway and all newgroups keep records of where the post has been sent from etc, so with a little bit of work the culprit can be found. A recent incident actually comes to mind whereby, while checking my website statistics, i came across a site i hadn't seen before. Upon investigating further the link took me to a website that specialised in Windows XP help and support. The site was well laid out and had some useful tips. I then noticed a Windows XP faq link. Well i like to know what information other sites are giving out, if only to make sure i am up to date on my own website. Imagine the surprise when i clicked on the link and found 125 pages of my own website 'pasted' into this website. The only thing missing was my website masthead. The guy hadn't even linked the page to my site, he had simply copied the whole lot and pasted into his site. Now if that isn't copyright infringement i don't know what is. A quick cease and desist notice to the guy in question and a copy to his web hosting company followed by a threat of legal action soon closed him down. As i've said newsgroup posts don't bother me (unless they are libellous). It simply depends upon where your priorities lie. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... On Usenet too? I don't think so... "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference. Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then that is fine. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "Mac" wrote in message ... How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly... Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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April 22nd 06, 08:13 PM
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Jonathans' sig.
There are a lot of web site that mirror news groups, and put adverts
around them, claiming its their own discussion board. Anyone searching for a question about MSN is likely to get one of these sites. -- Marc See http://www.imarc.co.uk/ for contact information.
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